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@MrsKRB: Thank you! I feel like distancing yourself from pregnant women must be so hard to do!
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@KittySunshine: I haven't asked. I know it took my cousin 3 years, because we've talked about it. Doesn't really make it much easier and for sure makes it harder when I find out people weren't trying or got a bfp on their first try.
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@NorthStar: @ms.line: @MrsKRB: Thanks for the info. I'll see what the OB says, and go from there. I'm at the point where I am done messing around and waiting, so if she doesn't start testing I'll check out a RE.
Another question I have that you ladies might be able to help me out with is about insurance. I know plans individual plans are different, but in general, if your insurance doesn't cover infertility does it still cover the costs of RE appointments and testing? When it gets to that point I'll call and ask specifics, I just am looking for what to expect I guess.
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@auggiefrog: Unfortunately, it varies. My insurances covered all my RE consults and diagnostic testing (after my deductible, of course). However, they don't cover any treatment or testing related to treatment (like cycle monitoring). But I have heard of some plans that don't cover anything related to infertility...
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@KittySunshine: I'm often curious, but would feel too rude asking.
RE update: he thinks there may be some component of LP defect from prolactin, possibility of autoimmune issues, a borderline insulin level could be contributing, and the morphology isn't fabulous but is ok and the count is good. He started me on cabergoline, ordered labs (immune tests, AMH, testosterone, insulin, prolactin), and said it was up to us if we wanted to do femara with TI, IUI or IVF.
I'm kind of mixed. On one hand, I'm frustrated that things I thought weren't issues might be, in part because the lab I did my initial bloodwork messed up a few things. On the other, if the cabergoline works, that would be amazing. Our plan is to do femara plus TI this cycle, start cabergoline, see what the labs show, and work on my diet. He recommends a low carb diet with balancing the amount of protein and carbs at each meal to avoid insulin spikes, so I'm working on that too. -
@auggiefrog: you might be able to find out if you log onto your insurance co website. There should be a list of what's covered and what's not.
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@AmeliaBedilia: that's great that your RE is pinpointing what could be wrong! Fx this does the trick!
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@KittySunshine: Welcome and good luck! I stopped bringing up TTC with pregnant women/new moms because it always left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I think for some women it really is super easy to get pregnant - and they like to brag about it! - but I think many others like to whitewash the facts and act like it was easy or no big deal when it probably wasn't. I only know one person who alluded to having fertility issues, and she was very reluctant to discuss them. So yeah, like PPs said, I mostly just avoid preggos.
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@AmeliaBedilia: Yay for getting answers! Let us know how your labs come back.
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@AmeliaBedilia: I'm sorry to hear about the issues, but it must feel great to have a specific few things to pinpoint, yay! FX these small changes do the trick! Are you / have you talked about using merformin?
@auggiefrog: mine would only cover some items at 50%. That included when my OBGYN visits went from regular GYN to infertility related questions- I had to pay 50% of what he billed insurance, as well as 50% of all bloodwork/testing/medications etc, even though he wasn't a specialist.
@KittySunshine: I'm with @ms.line, that conversation has never ended well for me. I have not been open about my fertility journey thus far, but am considering what I'm willing to discuss moving forward. Welcome and good luck!
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@Crystal: @ms.line: @AmeliaBedilia: @2farmmoms: Thank you for your opinions. I was at a party where literally every woman there had a child and then they asked me if I had any kids. I think it is a lot easier to just say not yet, maybe someday and leave it at that. There were lots of jokes about how I get to be in the bathroom by myself and I had opportunities to help them watch their kids and keep them safe from fireworks. At some points in the night it was just easier to go hang out with the guys!
Thanks for all the info about insurance too. That has been a bigger concern for my husband than me right now but I know I'll likely have to figure that out too.
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@KittySunshine: Ugh, I hate those kind of comments - so "lucky" not to have kids! After my husband's MFI diagnosis, I got pretty frank about telling people I was dealing with infertility if they commented/asked. It's usually awkward, but I like making people a little uncomfortable.
And some people respond with surprising empathy and grace. In general, I think it's important that people hear about infertility and the associated emotional, financial, and physical ramifications.
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@ms.line: I'm glad I'm not the only one that likes making people a little uncomfortable! When people tell me to enjoy being childless I say "Well I've had multiple miscarriages so I wouldn't mind the chaos if it meant I had my angels with me." And my husband shakes his head at me because he knows I'm irritated with someone if I'm saying that.
I'm in California with my grandmother right now so it's been hard to get on. But I'm still following along and keeping my fingers crossed for everyone!
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@KittySunshine: ::eye roll: at lucky not to have kids. I hear that a lot and hate it! I'm sorry you were stuck with them.
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@ms.line: @Crystal: @KrzyRiver: It sounds like it's definitely a common occurrence for people to not really know what to say. Normally I'd say it's a grass is always greener type situation but it's hard to see how the grass is greener over here! I have to agree with ms.line that people need to hear about infertility struggles, especially with so few insurance companies covering associated costs.
KrzyRiver, I'm so sorry to hear what you have been through. Thank you for being here, sharing your story and cheering all of us on.
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Is this a positive OPK? Looks like the same darkness to me, which the instructions say is a positive, but I've never really taken these before.
Edit: left is test line, right is control
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@sslm: I'm no expert on OPKs but it looks positive to me!
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@sslm: looks good to me! Yay for O finally being here!
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@MrsKRB: thanks! I'm hoping it happens soon.
I took another OPK this morning and it was more positive than yesterday. Does that mean O is still 24-36 hours away? I'm so confused and tired.
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@sslm: The 24 hour mark starts with your FIRST positive OPK. It's the beginning of your LH surge that triggers the egg to release. The duration of the surge doesn't really mean anything, so you can stop testing (but keep BDing for a couple days if you can!)
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@sslm: yes, typically you O 12-48 hours after your LH surge, or after the first positive OPK. Have fun BDing!
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@ms.line: @auggiefrog: ok this is really good to know! Yay! I'm really hoping for a temp shift tomorrow.
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@sslm: Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
I'm out for this month ladies. AF came today. I'll be following along tho and hopefully I won't see you all in the August POAS thread. Lol. Now I've gotta sneak away to go pick up my Femara prescription. Should be interesting with my whole family here.
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@KrzyRiver: Sorry about AF.
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@KrzyRiver: I'm sorry about AF
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@auggiefrog: @sslm: Thanks ladies. I'm trying not to be too disappointed. Hubby and I started trying last spring, so it feels like it's been a long time. But this was only the first cycle since we realized I wasn't ovulating, so I guess in a way it's only the beginning. Lol. I'm going to try and focus on getting a little healthier over the next couple weeks. Maybe drop 5 more pounds if possible. That could help too. And of course I'll be cheering all you guys on. Hoping you guys get your BFPs this month.
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@KrzyRiver: I'm so sorry about AF. Hugs.
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@sslm: wahoo that test looks good! Hope this means you'll finally be in the TWW soon!
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@KrzyRiver: sorry about AF
@KittySunshine: ick I hate people's comments. After I came back to work after losing my baby at 22w I got a lot of weird comments. One lady told me that "at least you know you can get pregnant." Um thanks that's helpful.8DPO here and no spotting yet which is good for me. Maybe my vit BComplex is helping!
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@LoveHope: @delight: Thanks ladies.
@delight: I hate when people tell me that. I've heard it so much over the last 5 years that I actually just walk away from people when they say it. I don't know why people think it's comforting.
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I got a temp rise this morning! Really hope this is it. If I ovulated yesterday we hit o-1, o-2, and o-4. Not too shabby
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POAS Dates
7/5: YogiRunner
7/9: LoveHope
7/10: Delight, MrsKRB, Amorini
7/13: hellonheels, KittySunshine
7/26: 2farmmoms
7/27: NorthStar
7/28: auggiefrog
TBD: sslmAugust POAS: krzyriver
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Forgive me if I messed up, I'm on vacation and it's hard posting from my phone!!
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@sslm: I hope your enjoying your vacation
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I hope you all had a wonderful 4th of July!
I know some of us are POAS this week. Good luck to those who are. I am 2 days away from Poas but I don't really feel confident. I'm getting all my usual AF symptoms. Hoping that I'm wrong. Still waiting for my husbands SA results. It's like pulling teeth. Ughhhh. I did get some good news though. My thyroid is at normal levels again which is really great. I have to keep taking my meds and they will keep testing me every 3 months. Yay for that -
Hey all, unfortunately AF came right on time this weekend so I'm out for this month. I'll be taking a break from the POAS boards as I prep for my first round of IVF in August. Trying to keep a positive outlook as we go into this next phase.
Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone!
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@LoveHope: Yay for normal thyroid! Mine just got to where they wanted it, too - glad we get a little break on the blood draws! Also it is totally nuts you don't have your SA results back. They have been done since the day your DH went in - they're just sitting on someone's desk somewhere. If I were you, I'd call and raise hell! Good luck with POAS!
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@YogiRunner: so sorry to hear about AF. Keeping you in my thoughts as you approach the next phase. We're all thinking about you. Hugs.
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@YogiRunner: Ugh, sorry to hear. So many things suck about IVF, but your chances of getting pregnant are so good! Good luck, and I'll be thinking of you.
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@ms.line: yea I agree. It shouldn't be taking this long... As soon as my OBGYN opens, I'm calling them. It's frustrating. I'm happy to hear your thyroid is behaving. One less thing for is to worry about
And some people respond with surprising empathy and grace. In general, I think it's important that people hear about infertility and the associated emotional, financial, and physical ramifications.
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