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June POAS: TTC 6+ Months

  1. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    POAS Dates
    5/23 - mommysquared
    6/3 - northstar
    6/8 - lovehope
    6/10 - delight
    6/11 - aphelila
    6/12 - yogirunner
    6/13 - libbylou
    6/14 - amorini
    6/12 - colee
    6/15 - mrskrb
    6/17 - hellonheels
    6/18 - ms.line
    6/21 - crystal
    6/22 - stiletto_mom
    6/29 - 2farmmoms

    Rollovers: sslm, ameliabedilia, auggiefrog

    Cheerleaders: honeygold89, banddmommy

  2. auggiefrog

    kiwi / 631 posts

    @ms.line: I'll probably test again near the end of the month, probably the 28th. Can you put me as TBD for now?

  3. auggiefrog

    kiwi / 631 posts

    @2farmmoms: I agree that although our kids wouldn't have anything too fancy, they will still have so much more in other ways. Neither my DH or I had anything fancy when we were growing up, and even though our kids will have so much more then we did, I still intend on raising them like we were raised.

  4. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @auggiefrog: sure thing!

    POAS Dates
    5/23 - mommysquared
    6/3 - northstar
    6/8 - lovehope
    6/10 - delight
    6/11 - aphelila
    6/12 - yogirunner
    6/13 - libbylou
    6/14 - amorini
    6/12 - colee
    6/15 - mrskrb
    6/17 - hellonheels
    6/18 - ms.line
    6/21 - crystal
    6/22 - stiletto_mom
    6/29 - 2farmmoms
    TBD - auggiefrog

    July POAS: sslm, ameliabedilia

    Cheerleaders: honeygold89, banddmommy

  5. Amorini

    persimmon / 1132 posts

    @Yogirunner and @Mrskrb, I'm glad to hear the IUIs went well. Fingers crossed!! @Yogirunner - Hope the wedding was fun and you were able to relax and enjoy!

    @2farmmoms: I'm glad to hear you have found friendly and supportive midwives to help you. To me, it makes a world of difference to have good, peaceful feelings about who is on this journey with me (REs, midwives, etc.). Though it means a long drive and changing donors, it sounds worth it. Sorry I didn't see your question to me on your other thread about legal help, but it sounds like you moved around that obstacle. Good luck with all of your upcoming tests.

    @auggiefrog, @msline and @ameliabedilia... I totally feel you.

    AFM, it's just been a little stressful over here!

    In preparation for being a mamma, earlier this year I left the land of full-time, stressful job unhappiness to find an amazing part-time opportunity. Just recently, I accepted an okay offer. A day later, the totally perfect offer came along and I accepted it, too. So now I have two jobs and full-time work again. Ack, we'll see where this goes... I am trying to find a graceful exit to the first one.

    Adding to the stress, we are essentially not in the running this month. DH could not DTD (or rather "finish the deed" - FTD?! FTW is what I say!) during my fertile window. He is psyched out by his MFI diagnosis now. Ignorance was bliss, I guess.

    Furthermore, the results came back that his T is NOT low, his TSH is fine, etc. so there is nothing to indicate why he has MFI. The last guess I have is that it's from undescended testicles as a kid which can cause infertility if corrective surgeries aren't done as a baby. On a positive note, all of his DNA karyotyping came back normal so that's a relief. (I guess MFI indicates other genetic abnormalities sometimes that can be passed on.) In the end, he has some sperm, can produce a sample and IVF/ICSI exists.

    My last diagnostics were fine, so we have urology and final RE consults this month before our Italy trip. I'm not looking forward to the urology appointment for DH's sake (ie., What's the doc going to say at this point? Something to further psych out DH and further erode our sex life?) Hopefully we will get treatment dates and can start ordering meds and get around this "inconvenience" (aka severely low sperm count), which is what we have come to call it.

    I joke, but this is the first month where I feel road-weary.

  6. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @Amorini: My husband had his urologist appointment last week and they couldn't find a reason for his low count, either. I read that up to 40% of MFI is idiopathic, or of unknown cause. I'm happy my husband and yours are both healthy, but it's also frustrating not to have a "reason" or a fix. If it's any consolation, the urologist didn't seem to psych my husband out any more... he was actually totally unconcerned with the motility and morphology numbers, and said low counts just "happen" sometimes.

    I'm sorry to hear that you didn't hit your window this month. My husband has also had problems "finishing the deed" at times since we started TTC. It must be a lot of pressure on them, especially after the MFI diagnoses.

    Big congrats on the new job! My DH just accepted an offer last month, only to have a much better one come in a week later. He just told the first place that he decided to accept an offer elsewhere and thanked them - kept it short and gracious. I'm sure they were pissed, but they didn't come across as such.

    I hope your final RE consult brings a definitive plan for you! You'll be going to Italy, starting a great new job, and making big strides toward getting pregnant - I'm excited for you!

  7. ballerinabee

    apricot / 452 posts

    Very late joining, and I need to catch up on everyone's posts, but I might squeeze in a POAS in June.

    Cycle Day: 29 (about to be 1; my temp dropped this am)
    TTC Cycle #: 26
    POAS date: depending on when I O, maybe 6/30, so TBD
    Baby #: 2

    Your situation: Unexplained secondary IF; my antral follicle count on CD3 was very low (5-6, rather than 15-20) and DH's morphology is only 2% (but his count is 179 million!, and motility is good), but all my other hormone levels were normal and my HSG was clear. Not really sure why we're having so much trouble this go-round. Due to complications from baby #1 (PPROM & pre-ecclampsia) we can't risk multiples, so IVF+ICSI with single embryo transfer is our only option, and we have to wait until we can get on my insurance September 1 to start.

    What's happening this month: both taking 300mg ubiquinol daily, mucinex and green tea to increase CM, OPKs, EOD BD from ~CD11 until O confirmed (hopefully).
    Chart link: BallerinaBee FF Chart

    And just for fun… Have any fun summer vacation plans? Not yet - I have to have an x-ray guided injection in my hip and likely hip surgery, so we'll try to plan a week at the beach around that. Two out of town Sunday weddings the next 2 weekends, though - 1 in Charlotte, NC and 1 in Charleston, SC.

  8. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    Wow - I have a lot to catch up on. First day back at work after a vacation in San Diego! Definitely a much needed vacation..

    I called the nurse for my AMH results since I hadn't heard anything and it was 1.6. She said that it's in the normal range, but isn't that low? If AF shows tomorrow or Wednesday, I'll be going in later this week for my FSH and a few other tests and an ultrasound.

  9. MrsKRB

    nectarine / 2465 posts

    @NorthStar: according to this site: http://www.advancedfertility.com/amh-fertility-test.htm, it's normal!

  10. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @MrsKRB: Thanks I know that I need results for the other tests to see the 'full picture', but at least I now have one piece of the puzzle.

  11. AmeliaBedilia

    nectarine / 2192 posts

    CD4 here. Quick recap: my testing is all fine, but I've had a borderline LP (11 days), lots of stress, and I'm 35. DH's morphology was 4%, but motility was fine, and overall count is great. DH used to have his laptop on his lap for hours at a time. When we found this out mid-March, we decided to do supplements and avoid the laptop, then recheck in 3 months (mid-June). If better, start femara (I had done one cycle last year, which made my LP 14 days). If not, then see RE. We have the option of taking femara this month before we know the results. DH thinks we shouldn't out of concern of not using the femara cycles up. I just want to do anything to speed this along. I am starting back on metformin (it gave me a 12 day LP, then I had a 13 day LP the cycle after I stopped). Would you start the femara in addition, or just do the metformin? FWIW, my stress level should be way less this month.

  12. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: So, you are still waiting to do Dh's new round of testing until mid-June, correct? I think I initially read what you wrote incorrectly, so I was going to give you different advice .

    When will he be doing his testing over? I suppose that you would need to start Femara no later than tomorrow if you are going to do it this cycle. I'd be inclined to just do it as one cycle isn't going to make much difference if you were to wait until July's cycle to start it. If your stress levels will be lower, might as well throw as much stuff towards this cycle to give you the best chance. I don't think there is as many limited cycles for Femara/letrozole as there is for Clomid, although, I could be wrong. I know that I took 5 or 6 cycles of Letrozole.

  13. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @NorthStar: I just got my AMH levels this month, too - 1.73. I totally freaked out that it was low, but now I don't think it's actually low, just low-ish for my age. Have to wait for all my testing to be done before I can follow up with my RE about it.

  14. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: Have you had a 7DPO progesterone test? If those results came back normal I really wouldn't worry about your LP. That said, I don't think Femara cycles are very limited, so if you want to take it this month, then go for it!

  15. AmeliaBedilia

    nectarine / 2192 posts

    @ms.line: no. We didn't because my charts said I was ovulating, and either way, the plan was to go on femara.

  16. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: Then I think you should just take the Femara if you feel up to it. I don't see how it could hurt, and it could be the boost you need!

  17. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @Amorini: No worries, yes, it makes a huge difference to have supportive people behind you. Sorry to hear about your recent troubles. I guess this is where my one advantage lies. It's easy (well, easier) for me to find a different donor if one has a low count or other issues. There are no hard feelings there, and I haven't heard of a donor with performance anxiety!! I think even though it's nice to know you're both healthy and things are working, it is so hard to hear that there's no reason for you not being pregnant, or for the sperm count to be low, or whatever the problem is. So frustrating that sometimes it just doesn't work right.

  18. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @2farmmoms: It's funny you should say that - I'm queer and rather surprised myself by marrying a hetero cis dude. Especially since our MFI diagnosis, I've though to myself, "It would be so much easier to get pregnant if my partner were a woman!" Of course, LGBTQI reproductive issues are almost always far more complicated, but I would really just like to go shopping for some better sperm right now!

  19. auggiefrog

    kiwi / 631 posts

    AF arrived. I have an appointment with an obgyn on July 7th to discuss our problems conceiving, do one more month until I hopefully get some help.

    @ms.line: I'll test again on June 30th.

  20. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    POAS Dates

    5/23 - mommysquared
    6/3 - northstar
    6/8 - lovehope
    6/10 - delight
    6/11 - aphelila
    6/12 - yogirunner
    6/13 - libbylou
    6/14 - amorini
    6/12 - colee
    6/15 - mrskrb
    6/17 - hellonheels
    6/18 - ms.line
    6/21 - crystal
    6/22 - stiletto_mom
    6/29 - 2farmmoms
    6/30 - auggiefrog, ballerinabee

    July POAS: sslm, ameliabedilia

    Cheerleaders: honeygold89, banddmommy

  21. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @auggiefrog: Sorry to hear. But it's good you have an appointment on the books.

  22. Colee

    cherry / 153 posts

    @ballerinabee: We're dealing with secondary infertility too. I'm sorry they can't seem to figure out why you aren't getting pregnant. And how frustrating to have to wait until September to start treatments! Good luck to you. I hope you get pregnant before then and won't need IVF!

  23. YogiRunner

    clementine / 849 posts

    @ameliabedilia @ms.line @mrskrb @amorini: Thank you! It wasn’t a big deal to miss the rehearsal after all. We got to the dinner just in time and most people didn’t even notice. Wedding was a BLAST and definitely got my mind off TTC! Thanks so much for your sound advice, you’re right that you need to practice plenty of self-care while dealing with IF.

    @auggiefrog: I’m so sorry you’re on to the next cycle, but so glad you’ve got an appoitnment on the books. And re: your earlier post, venting is exactly what we’re here for – to listen, commiserate, offer support. There are many events that have come and gone that we were sure we’d be pregnant for… holidays, this wedding (I ordered my dress 2 sizes too big!!), etc. It is a true test of patience and having faith that everything will work out.

    @2farmmoms: Glad to have you here and I’m also sorry you’re dealing with lots of extra crap. Clomid + IUI sounds like a FANTASTIC plan and I am crossing my fingers extra hard for you!!

    @amorini: Congrats on the great opportunities that have come your way! I’m sure you can gracefully exit the first one, I’d just do it sooner than later if you can – like ripping a band-aid off so you can focus on the better opportunity and give everyone plenty of notice.

    AFM, I had IUI #2 on Friday but with no trigger because I was surging naturally and had 1 mature follicle on each side, one ginormous at 25.5mm (the other was 22). Hope that still means my chances are high… And this morning had the craziest vivid dream that I gave birth to a little girl. It was so real. Haven't had any pregnancy/baby dreams before so it threw me for a loop...

  24. Colee

    cherry / 153 posts

    I'm officially in the TWW and feeling ok about things. I don't expect to be pregnant this cycle, but we had our first RE appt last week, so I'm feeling hopeful for the future. My RE suspects poor egg quality because of past chemotherapy treatments which can cause early menopause. I had an ultrasound and my antral follicle count was 10, which she said was lower than normal. She recommended we be aggressive with treatments because of my health issues and because I'm not getting any younger. So next cycle we will do CD3 labs, HSG, clomid, trigger, and IUI. DH will do SA. So at least when my period starts (as it ALWAYS does), we have a plan in place!

  25. Colee

    cherry / 153 posts

    @YogiRunner: I'm glad your IUI went well! I hope your dream becomes reality

  26. ballerinabee

    apricot / 452 posts

    @Colee: Thanks! I just can't wait to get started with IVF. Is it Fall yet?? I'm sorry to hear that past chemo may be contributing to your issues. It's so frustrating to just not know, or to know how to easily / successfully fix it!

    I'm officially CD1, as I suspected was coming, so now in the T+WW to O... I'm watching CB fertility monitors on ebay to see if I can get a gently used one on the cheap.

    @YogiRunner: glad you got your IUI in and made the dinner & had a blast at the wedding. Nothing like good times with friends or family to help brighten your spirits! I have 2 upcoming weddings the next 2 weekends and hope to have as much fun!

    @auggiefrog: Stupid AF

    @2farmmoms: welcome to these boards. I'm sorry you have to be here, but know that you're not alone. No matter the uniqueness of each of our circumstances, prolonged TTC is stressful, frustrating, and tough. And ha, I wish I could shop for some better quality sperm (no offense to my DH and the cute kid we made, but his morphology could use some help!)

  27. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    Cross posted in infertility:

    I'm so confused. I just got a call from the doctor's office. They had originally recommended clomid and IUI this cycle. I did my cycle day 3 labs yesterday and got a call from the MA this morning. She said my FSH looks good at 5.8. My ultrasound was normal. I have a retro flexed uterus. And my estradiol was 15. Then she called back and said that the doctor said not to take clomid because my estradiol is too low. She wants me to do a non medicated cycle with IUI. Which is fine if that's best, but I want to understand why! She said that my estradiol is too low to take clomid, and that I don't need it, but she couldn't explain why. I told her I needed more of an explanation, but she had no answers. She said she would ask the doctor and call me back. I'm really frustrated because if anything, my research says that clomid is sometimes prescribed for low estradiol, not contraindicated! Can anyone here explain this to me? Thanks! I wish the doctor would just call me back herself. I hate talking to the clueless medical assistant.

  28. YogiRunner

    clementine / 849 posts

    @2farmmoms: I wish I could answer this but i'm just as confused as you are... last cycle my estradiol was low (peak of 55pg/ml), so they took me off letrozole and put me on clomid. This cycle w/the clomid my peak was 872!
    Can you get in for a consult in person before you'd need to take the meds?

    ETA: So actually, scratch that. Day 3 levels will be much lower than levels near ovulation... take a look: http://www.fertilityplus.com/faq/hormonelevels.html

  29. YogiRunner

    clementine / 849 posts

    @ballerinabee: I have to admit, I do love a good wedding. The RE nurse after my IUI said to not drink anything... I ignored her Frankly, the anti-stress effect of having a glass of champagne is probably more beneficial than worrying about avoiding it! I still consider red wine a food group... Also! September 1 will be here before you know it. Hopefully you won't even need to start IVF, but you have a plan, girl - and that is a wonderful thing!

  30. MrsKRB

    nectarine / 2465 posts

    @YogiRunner: that's funny she told you not to drink, my RE told me to have a couple glasses of wine. I think he could tell I was wound tight!

  31. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @YogiRunner: Yeah, I don't know. They called back but I still didn't talk to the doctor. Very frustrating. They basically said Clomid won't be effective if my level is already low. The good news is, I called the midwife I saw back in March for a second opinion. She said she's meeting with her partners and will get back to me tomorrow, which wouldn't be too late to start Clomid. Also, she said that their office does do IUIs and can do it with fresh donor sperm! So it looks like I might not have to switch donors and travel to Berkeley after all! Great news today. Our donor is stoked, as are we. Also I have my HSG on Friday. Lots of things happening this month.

  32. ballerinabee

    apricot / 452 posts

    @YogiRunner: I definitely don't think some wine at the wedding will hurt you - they always tell us not to drink, but at that point, it's harmless. Like @MrsKRB: said, it would relax you if anything! Mmm, wine

    @2farmmoms: yay! That's great news! No long trips, known donor, and hopefully clomid to help (or at least a clear answer on why not). Fingers crossed for you!

  33. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @2farmmoms: That's SO wonderful! I'm glad that you will be able to do something more local

    @YogiRunner: As far as wine, I agree with the other ladies and say go for it! It won't hurt anything!

    I'm SO frustrated here. I talked to my clinic here regarding what I need done and ordered by the specialist. Now the RE is saying that there is a monitoring fee to have everything done where I live. Oh, thanks for telling me! ugh - not sure what the damage will be yet.

  34. HellOnHeels

    clementine / 899 posts

    Pretty sure I'm in the TWW now, so I won't be POAS until 6/20 at the soonest.
    GP has sent referral to the fertility clinic, doing the CD21 blood draw on Friday and hoping DH will do his SA and bloodwork next week. Also hoping to get a call for an ultrasound soon as I've been having a lot more deep pain during BD this cycle. Probably should tell my doc and get him to send in a more urgent req and get a pap done sooner rather then later but I feel like I've been taking too much time off work already. Dr Google is telling me it could be endo as I also have super painful cramps during AF as well. Bleh.

  35. Colee

    cherry / 153 posts

    @2farmmoms: That is such great news about the donor! Good luck with the HSG and I hope you get some answers regarding clomid. I wish I had some knowledge to share, but I'm still new to all this stuff.

    @NorthStar: Grrrrrrr so frustrating! We don't have infertility coverage so we pay for everything out of pocket. Our clinic is pretty upfront about pricing, which is good, but everything adds up so quickly. I hope your monitoring fee is nominal!

  36. AmeliaBedilia

    nectarine / 2192 posts

    I'm on CD6 and day 3 of femara. I decided CD4 to start, but given some REs say CD3-7 and some say CD5-9, I figure CD4-8 should be fine. I was rear-ended on my way to work, so I'm a little sore, but otherwise fine. I'm waiting on the adjuster to look at my car so I can get it fixed, but the other driver's insurance is taking care of it, so it's going about as well as can be hoped for.

    DH and I are planning a 4 day weekend trip next weekend. We aren't set on where, just something low stress and I don't want to spend a fortune. I found some romantic cabins a couple hours away that have hot tubs, but now I worry about DH's morphology. I wonder if lowering the temp a few degrees would be enough. If my body had stayed on schedule, I would have O'd the last day of our trip, but now it's the first day of the trip.

  37. ms.line

    pear / 1770 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: My husband and I were just on vacation and I was too paranoid to let him in the hot tub! MFI has turned me into a bit of a basketcase, though.

    Sorry to hear you were rear-ended! Glad you're safe and sound, though. Sounds like you deserve a break - hope your getaway provides some much needed R&R!

  38. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    Just had my baseline ultrasound and will have results for FSH and estradiol later this afternoon. Now, I need to figure out/coordinate my day 12 ultrasound since it falls on a weekend and my local clinic is only open during the week. Looks like I might be traveling on Sunday or seeing if they will let me do my ultrasound on day 13. For anyone that has gone through the IUI process, when was your ultrasound?

  39. YogiRunner

    clementine / 849 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: Ugh that sucks that you got rear-ended! Hope everything with insurance goes smoothly and quickly, and so glad to hear you're okay. Good thing you have an awesome weekend to look forward to! DH and I are actually doing the same thing Headed to a peaceful cabin on a lake. And re: hot tub, I am no expert but I would avoid it if I were in your shoes. If there's any chance of putting his morphology in jeopardy, especially after kicking the laptop habit, why risk it? And for you, I'd avoid it in the luteal phase... my RE nurse told me to stay away from hot tubs, saunas, and heating pads after my IUI. Hot tub or no hot tub, so glad you get the chance to unplug and unwind!

  40. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @AmeliaBedilia: I just wanted to say that I agree with what the other ladies have said. I'd avoid the hot tub as it's just not worth it, especially with how much work you and DH have put in to get his numbers higher.

    I'm SO glad that you are ok!

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