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Should the UK leave the European Union?

  1. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    @Cherrybee: This must be how you Europeans (oops I mean, Brits) felt when we elected Trump as the nominee of a major US political party!

  2. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @mrbee: Yeah, I apologise for any outrage I expressed - it turns out we are no better. Hey, we will probably all get guns now.

  3. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    @Cherrybee: Actually once Scotland and Northern Ireland leave, won't England and Wales lean way more to the right?

  4. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    Wow. Thanks for the info in this thread. I'm thinking maybe a vacation soon to London because it will be cheap!

  5. Andrea

    GOLD / wonderful coffee bean / 18478 posts

    Wow, I am shocked and saddened. I lived there for a good chunk of my 20's. Everyone I know voted to remain.

  6. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @hummusgirl: haha, Texas would probably be the first state to sign up to leave the United States!

    I am going to see what Angela Merkel has to say about this. I bet she's going to be very busy this weekend.

  7. erinbaderin

    pomelo / 5573 posts


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  8. Bibliolove

    kiwi / 526 posts

    I'm shocked at the final vote! I'm sorry for those that wanted to remain, and now have to deal with the fallout of leaving.

  9. Anagram

    eggplant / 11716 posts

    LET'S ALL MOVE TO CANADA.

    (that's my new mantra when I think about Trump. Maybe it can apply here, too).

  10. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @looch: was wondering that too.

    It's surprising but not shocking. I mean if NY was like hey Mississipi, you're a drag, we're going to force you to raise taxes and screw over your workers to pay us for making more money. Things would head sour quicker than they already are in the US.

  11. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @Anagram: I actually wonder what impact this will have on the Commonwealth and Canada, in particular.

  12. littlebug

    honeydew / 7504 posts

    Wow. The whole world's gone mad! Between this and Trump...

  13. Mrs. Chocolate

    blogger / nectarine / 2600 posts

    @Anagram: Haha terrific slogan!

    My friend on Facebook has taken to saying Blame the Boltons over a lot of crazy political stuff these days.

  14. hummusgirl

    persimmon / 1233 posts

    @looch: Ugh, so true. I am in my little liberal Austin bubble but the state as a whole is a hot mess, politically speaking. I try not to read the news too much or I'll just be depressed all the time.

  15. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @Cherrybee: geez, looking at the news this morning it's like all hell has broken lose. I'm sorry, this must be very stressful. It's making me a bit more nervous about the trump situation though...

    @looch: So far "she has voiced 'great regret.'" That seems like kind of an understatement...

  16. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @MrsSCB: Yes, I'm more nervous about a Trump presidency as well. Fear is a powerful thing...

  17. yoursilverlining

    eggplant / 11824 posts

    @Cherrybee: " The general public are very, very stupid. They think that we can leave the EU, close our boarders, stop letting in "immigrants" (and by that they mean Muslims) and suddenly everything will be wonderful. They don't care about the economy, they're not interested in trade, all they can see is that they are waiting for a doctors appointment and someone with darker skin was called in first...... "

    Sounds a lot like what's happening over here. This makes me VERY nervous for the US in November. Gah, the impact on the world economy.

    I'm really surprised by this vote and shocked that Cameron stepped down. I can't imagine a President ever resigning, unless there was some serious personal dirt on them. That is just so shocking to me.

  18. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    So a British friend of mine said before the vote that he would move to Canada or Australia if the UK left. Are a lot of people really thinking of doing this?

  19. Truth Bombs

    grapefruit / 4321 posts

    Trump apparently blames Obama for the Brexit. Does he not realize that the Brits who voted to leave are likely very very similar to the Americans who are voting for him?

  20. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/24/politics/donald-trump-brexit-scotland-press-conference/index.html

    "They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!"

  21. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @MrsSCB: There's a meeting on Monday that was scheduled ahead of the vote, so I am sure we'll get more on the topic next week.

  22. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @bluestriped bee: I think a lot of people would like to leave the sinking ship, yes. But the practicalities will probably prove too much for most. The future for us and our children is very uncertain. The people who are likely to lead our country come October, now Cameron has stepped down, have made no secret of their desire to dismantle the NHS. A number of big businesses have announced that they will have to move operations, thus jobs, out of the UK. Looking at the stock market, my pension is currently worth nothing. What is there to keep us here? Trapped on a tiny rock with all the racists. What does the future look like for my girls?

    I doubt we will really move. But I would love to. Take our country back, indeed. You can have it, its a f*cking disgrace.

  23. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    @Cherrybee: Ugh! I'm so so sorry.

  24. Mrs. Pickle

    blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts

    @Cherrybee: I'm so sorry.

  25. meredithNYC

    pomegranate / 3314 posts

    So sorry this is happening. What a disaster!

  26. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @lawbee11: Trump speaking from Scotland...which voted to stay...I'm sure he couldn't care less, but ugghhhhh he is such an idiot!

  27. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    Also there's this: http://theslot.jezebel.com/man-who-voted-for-brexit-is-a-bit-shocked-his-vote-coun-1782553004

    And I just saw another headline (not from the onion, believe it or not) that said, "The British are frantically Googling what the EU is, hours after voting to leave it." Omg.

    ETA: This is also interesting: "Victory for leave came despite fact that those who experienced highest levels of migration were least anxious about it"

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/voting-details-show-immigration-fears-were-paradoxical-but-decisive

  28. hummusgirl

    persimmon / 1233 posts

    @lawbee11: Vomit.

  29. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @MrsSCB: The frantic Googling thing doesn't surprise me at all. From what I saw, people thought this was a vote about "sending the buggers back" and are now wondering why our currency is worthless.

  30. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @Cherrybee: Yes, and thats what makes me scared about our upcoming election. People voting for him just on similar premises.

  31. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @MrsSCB: Bahahaha



  32. erinbaderin

    pomelo / 5573 posts

    @Anagram @bluestriped bee: I know you guys are joking but as a Canadian - you know it's not that easy, right? We hear this every election, "I'm moving to Canada", and it's a bit frustrating. Canada is a sovereign country with immigration rules and restrictions and you can't just up and move here because you don't like your new president. (/oversensitive about our status as a real country and not a younger sibling to the big countries)

  33. erinbaderin

    pomelo / 5573 posts

    I've also seen a couple interviews with voters saying they were just trying to make a point, they didn't want to actually leave the EU.

  34. hummusgirl

    persimmon / 1233 posts

    @Cherrybee: The NHS seems to work so well (though I get that nothing's perfect). Why would anyone want to dismantle??

  35. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @lawbee11: Lol, good for her! She has a pretty appropriate song for this situation, too.... https://vimeo.com/11323352

  36. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @Cherrybee: Ughhh, it's disturbing the number of people who voted leave and now seem to be confused as to how this happened..."Oh, wait...what? My vote means something real? This wasn't a poll about the X-Factor finale or something?"

  37. sunny

    coconut / 8430 posts

    @erinbaderin: Not to derail the conversation too much, but compared to the US, it's a piece of cake to immigrate to Canada. Canada has multiple paths to immigration and welcomes immigration as a strategy to continue population growth. To immigrate to the US, you have to be sponsored by a close family member, employer, be a political asylee or win the lottery. And even then, your wait might be 10-20+ years depending on your situation!

  38. lamariniere

    pineapple / 12566 posts

    @Cherrybee: my husband informed me that our Euro stocks took a huge hit today, so the Brexit effect has been immediate for us too I keep thinking about the immigration aspect of the Brexit. Having a British passport always seemed to me like a golden ticket giving you easy access to living, working and studying on the continent in addition to hassle free travel just about everywhere. I wonder if the average Brit was thinking about this outward mobility when the vote was cast, instead of just the migrant situation and economic aspects within the UK.

  39. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    @erinbaderin: I have never said it because I have faith (some faith) that Trump won't be President. Plus, if it happens, I would be willing to weather it out. But I think a lot of people who do say they will be moving to Canada if X (Trump or Clinton) becomes president... are joking. Unless they have the ability to uproot their family and find a job in Canada, I don't think realistically many would.

    But from my one British friend, I don't think he was joking. He does work in a position that could be found in any county (like Canada... not sure about Australia). It does appear that this vote to leave the EU is pretty big. Like this change is not a 4 year commitment like Trump's (ehhh, i can't believe I'm saying this) Presidency. We (The US) can try to get back to 'normal' after those 4 years. This vote to exit the EU is going to affect people probably a decade or more from now.

  40. Madison43

    persimmon / 1483 posts

    @erinbaderin: I think most people declare their intention to move to Canada because it is a conveniently located, English speaking (for the most part) country with nice people. That's all.

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