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@looch: yes, that child is Canadian.

@sunny: Oh, I know, I just see people say it all the time (not here) like you'd say you were moving to a different city.

@looch: my two kids are Canadian because they were born there. We weren't citizens.

@travelgirl1:

@erinbaderin: my husband already has started the immigration process, but we never "landed". We're in Canada now as I type, actually.....yes, I am (mildly) familiar with immigration policies. My husbands entire extended family (his parents, his sister and her family, his uncles and cousins, second cousins, even his grandmother before she passed) live in Canada. His parents just immigrated a year ago after they retired in the US.

@looch: No European country gives citizenship automatically based on place of birth. Of course, you can become naturalized at some point, but it's not automatic. My DD was born here and can't claim citizenship based on place of birth. Here, until somewhat recently (20-30 years ago?) you could only become Austrian if your father was.

@lamariniere: Oh, I didn't realize that it was a widespread thing in Europe. I think even the process to be naturalized is quite complicated.

Jus Sanguinis vs. Jus Soli. I learned something today, now I can go home!

@looch: I was just going to point you to the wiki articles on jus soli and jus sanguinis which I found interesting!

@lamariniere: would you believe i was 6 months short of the residency requirement for naturalization when we relocated? If we move back I have to start again! At that point, hopefully, I'll give up my American citizenship as well.

@sunny: Thanks! I think it brings up an interesting point of discussion (obviously not the intial point of this thread) about the ability for people to move freely about the world. I listened to a very compelling podcast this winter about the ramifications of these man made boundaries. We're really not so free to move around as we should be, I think!

@looch: In my opinion, I think the laws need to catch up with the modern world. People are moving across borders and disenfranchising long time residents (especially in perpetuity) seems like it is recipe for racism and discrimination.

@lamariniere: yep, just because I do not want to be subject to filing US taxes on world wide income.

@sunny: agreed.

It seems the US is a combination of both options though, because my son was born abroad and he's an AMCIT. If the US were jus soli only, he'd not be eligible...am I understanding that correctly?

@looch: yeah, that part is no fun.

@Freckles: Wow. That is crazy.

@Cherrybee: I can't believe we live here. DH and I are about to exchange on a house and today has me thinking that's maaaaaybe a bad idea

@Charm54: I found this probably way too funny I was discussing the info with my husband and he's like silly it's Nova Scotia I was just there. I totally did not put 2 and 2 together at first lol

@Cherrybee: Has you heard anyone suggesting that the government ignore the referendum? When we had the Quebec referendum in the 90s, they had decided that unless it was a "clear majority", the Canadian govt was not going to honour a vote in Quebec to separate. As it happened, the no vote won, so it never made it that far.

@Cherrybee: haha I'm an EU immigrant, so unfortunately more considerations than just affordability
@Grace: I really think they should have done that - said unless it's a 60% plus majority or something. They are relying on people to make the decision who generally don't know and understand the true facts imo

@travelgirl1: So the PM stepped down, I heard late yesterday (sorry I missed it) that he was conservative and was pushing for Brexit. So he got what he wanted but now is resigning? I don't get it.
Previously, I assumed he was resigning because he didn't agree with the decision.

ETA: never mind. I see the PM did not support Brexit.

“I was absolutely clear about my belief that Britain is stronger, safer and better off inside the EU. I made clear the referendum was about this, and this alone, not the future of any single politician, including myself.

“But the British people made a different decision to take a different path. As such I think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction,” Cameron said.

@Cherrybee: I just read this morning that a lot of people are angry at pollsters for not "predicting" this. Which seems ludicrous, because the polls were within four percentage points of the result. That's pretty darn close! It's just that those four points meant one way or the other. If a person didn't vote because polls told them remain would win, who's the real idiot? Certainly not the polls...

I think it's really unfortunate that so many people claimed to have voted in a way where they didn't understand what they were actually voting for. It just goes to show you really really need to educate yourself before you do go and vote ( on anything! ) I do commend the voter turnout, 77% is a pretty decent number. ( Well, at least compared to here, Canada, where voter turn out is usually quite poor in comparison. )

My moms side is British, all of her direct family live in Canada now, but all of her extended family live in the U.K. It sounds like they were for the Briexit ( however, the ones that had emailed my grandpa about it, are the older generation, which fits with the voting scheme. )
However, my cousin, who is Canadian, is in the process of getting her citizenship ( her dad was born in England, so she can get citizenship.) Her fiance is British, they've been trying to decide where they want to set their roots down. It sounds like they were swaying towards England, but now after this, they said they are definitely coming back to Canada. They're both quite political, head strong people who were 100% against leaving, it's actually quite sad to hear about it all now.

I think it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. With it being such a close vote, with the reaction of the results, and how upset so many people are, if they will try and do anything ( or if they can do anything about it now.)