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  • poll: Was your baby consistently sleeping through the night (10-12 hours) by 4 mo with no dream feed?
    Yes : (39 votes)
    26 %
    No : (113 votes)
    74 %
  1. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @MsLipGloss: Or the people shouting it from the rooftops are the ones that consider 6 hours straight STTN. Sorry, sleeping 8-2 is not STTN!

  2. Crisark

    pomegranate / 3398 posts

    Yes, all three did, by 6 to 8 weeks.

  3. sungirl

    apricot / 309 posts

    Not even close

  4. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    My little lady is 4.5 months and she has NEVER slept through the night. I get so frustrated when people ask me and look shocked when I say she isn't.

  5. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    Bahahahahaha! Bangs head against desk repeatedly and then falls asleep on papers resulting in ink on forehead at work. Not that that happened or anything . . . .

    That is my answer.

  6. sandy

    cantaloupe / 6687 posts

    @Foodnerd81: you are so welcome! I'm so glad it worked for you and your baby. That is exactly how I felt - life changing...so much so that I feel like I have to share with anyone that asks about it. Contrary to what others have experienced I don't talk about my lo's sleep unless asked directly and I always explain that every baby is so different but at the same time if someone asks me for details or asks multiple times I am more than willing to share what worked for us. I think so many people are against sleep training and have negative associations with it but it does work for some babies and some babies, if given the chance, do benefit and learn to sleep long stretches on their own. I say don't knock it until you educate yourself, commit to give it a real shot, and actually try it. At the same time, I do not assume it works for all babies - babies are not robots we can program with a one size fits all solution

  7. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @Cherrybee: yes! This! The shock and awe from family and random strangers is killing me! And if one more person tells me to just let him cry i swear i am going to lose it....!

    @Mrs. Blue: i am so sorry

  8. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @Mrs. High Heels: i put in the poll 10-12 hours because that is the recommended amount of "nighttime" sleep for babies at that age.

  9. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @septca: my mom and mil swear this as well. Sigh. My mom watched lo for 3 nights while we were at a wedding and smugly insisted that she would have him sleeping through the night by the time he went home. He was up 3-4 times (for an hour at a time) all 3 nights he was there. Im not gonna lie...that felt pretty good

  10. LemonLong

    pear / 1698 posts

    My EBF LO was sleeping through the night 8-10 hours by 8 weeks. We made sleep a top priority for us though, since I knew I would be going back to work. We used the Moms On Call method starting at 4 weeks old. I weighed my LO multiple times a week at breastfeeding support group so I knew she was getting enough during the day and didn't need night feeds.

    She's 13 months and we haven't experienced any regressions yet!

  11. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Mrs. Lion: It's okay. I think I'm coming to terms with it. I had totally unrealistic expectations, especially because I live in BabyWise land, where sleep training from the beginning is super common. I really thought I was a failure if they weren't STTN by 4 months, and then by 7 months, and now we're right at 9, and I've figured out that there is almost always something that pops up to keep us from STTN consistently. And by STTN, I mean 7-5, feed, and falling back asleep until 6:30 or 7. We do that for a few days here and there, but it never happens consistently.

    On the other hand, maybe I'm skewed because both babies have to sleep good the same night for us to get sleep.

  12. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: i come from babywise land too...we tried to do everything "by the book" but it just never worked. Sigh. Now that tooth #2 has broken through we are going to try night weaning again...but tooth # 3 is about to make an appearance, so im not holding out much hope.

  13. cmomma17

    honeydew / 7811 posts

    at 7.5 months my LO has NEVER slept a 10-12 hour stretch!

    6-7 hrs a few glorious times, but that's it!

  14. oliviaoblivia

    pineapple / 12793 posts

    We lucked out with sleep. We didn't have to do any sleep training and LO figured out how to STTN very early. Finding her thumb at eight weeks was key to her success.
    That said, we've had some rough weeks here and there. She is a miserable teether and wakes up screaming hourly while they are coming in. Big milestones also hit hard. But within 4-5 days of a tooth or skill she's back to normal.
    It really is luck of the draw. For those of you toughing it out with multiple wake ups my hat is off to you.

  15. tysonja

    nectarine / 2217 posts

    thankfully we lucked out too and LO#1 sttn 12 hrs at 3 months with no regressions....

    LO#2 is 2 months and hopefully he follows suit! right now he is doing about 6-8 hrs.

    i neeeeeed it to happen with 2 under 1.5 yrs old!

  16. BKCaribBaby

    pear / 1672 posts

    By 4 months? I WISH!! 3.5 months to 5 months was her worst stretch of night sleep rivaling only the newborn period. The 4 month sleep regression was very real for us. It wasn't until after we sleep trained her at 5 months did she begin to sleep through the time with no wake ups. She started to do so regularly at about 6 months.

  17. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    @Mrs. Lion: ahh, sorry i missed that! then my answer is nope with both kids… they were still having at least one MOTN wakeup until they were 6 months old. every baby is so different and you should be easier on yourself - it is definitely not your fault that your baby isn't STTN yet!

  18. lovehoneybee

    GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts

    E is 16 months old and has STTN like twice, the first time being when he was over a year old. Last night he was up 4 times. And he's weaned!

  19. Running Elley

    coconut / 8681 posts

    DS slept HORRIBLY until we sleep trained him with CIO at 5.5 months. I'm positive that he would not have started sleeping through without us sleep training him. He's a very stubborn kid!

    I have high hopes for DD *fingers crossed*

  20. Penny Lane

    nectarine / 2163 posts

    at 4 months I counted sleeping midnight - 5am STTN! my LO did that consistently from probably 8 weeks old.

    he didn't consistently give up the motn feed (or, should I say, early morning feed) until after 10 months. I still think he's an amazing sleeper though, so I guess it's all relative!

  21. sandy

    cantaloupe / 6687 posts

    @LemonLong: I LOVE moms on call! That's where I refer people when they ask me about baby sleep. We didn't follow everything but it helped sooooo much!

  22. Ree723

    grapefruit / 4819 posts

    I think a lot of it just comes down to individual personalities with babies. We lucked out and got a girl who LOVES her sleep! She was sleeping 12 hrs overnight consistently and never went through any real regressions. Every time she hit a big milestone (crawling, cruising, and walking) she would have a few nights of waking up once or twice during the night and struggle to go back to sleep, but it was always very short lived. We didn't do anything specific - it's just her, she loves her sleep!

    Will be interesting to see what baby #2's personality is like...

  23. Boheme

    papaya / 10473 posts

    DS has never slept more than 5 hours straight. Usually 3 hours straight is the best I get.

    Shoot me.

  24. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    4 months is when it all went to crap for us. LO is finally STTN at 13.5 months. It was a loooooong journey.

  25. littlehunny

    cherry / 231 posts

    We followed the sleep sense program for our twins at 6 months. I think it was around 7 months they started sleeping through the night. Although the last 2 weeks they have been sick and Ethan has a molar coming in so sleep hasn't really been happening around here. They're 13 months now.

  26. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @grizz: I thought it was going better?

  27. Boheme

    papaya / 10473 posts

    @Smurfette: we are so off and on! He was doing great, then he started cutting a tooth on the side and got a cold. He usually naps PERFECTLY, but nights are anyone's guess. 2 wake ups before the snot/tooth, now we're at around 4.

  28. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @grizz: Damn teeth......

  29. MsMini

    grapefruit / 4056 posts

    S didn't STTN until 16 months old - and at 19 months we are having a regression from illness that has lasted over 2 weeks. My Mom prepared me well though, neither I nor my sisters STTN until we were over a year old

  30. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    Currently 11 weeks old and has slept through the night since 8 weeks ( with dreamfeed ) and since 9 weeks with no dreamfeed. 7pm to 6am.
    Please don't hate me. I'm sure we'll get a shock when teething begins!

  31. knittingmama

    grape / 87 posts

    I voted yes—she slept through the night from about three to five months. BUT, and here's the big BUT, then she stopped and now, at 16 months still gets up somewhere around 3 times a night! So, baby sleep has it's ups and downs. Sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse, don't feel bad about it.

  32. boots

    apricot / 344 posts

    My 8 month old has never slept through the night, and still wakes up frequently to nurse. We coleep though, so it's to be somewhat expected.

  33. Elderberrygin

    kiwi / 689 posts

    9 months and we're still hit or miss on sleeping through. LO has bad eczema and dust allergies, which doesn't help, plus she's post colic, so everything is just taking a little longer.

    Mentally, what really helped me deal with her sleep habits was reading about toddler nutrition. You know how pediatricians now recommend not stressing out about daily nutrition but looking at protein, vegetable etc. intake over the course of a week? I apply a similar principal to her sleep. I look at her sleep patterns over the course of a week and if she's done 1-2 nights sleeping through from 6.30 until 5.30/6am, 2-3 nights with one wake up and straight back down until 6.30 and a couple of rough nights, I feel like we're doing well. Teething and illness always throw us for a loop, and we regroup and get back on track.

    Sleep is a developmental milestone as much as anything else. As long as you have laid down the conditions for good sleep and made sure your kid isn't overtired, you've done your best and that's all anyone can do. The rest is up to them. And I say this as a mom who has sleep trained and found that, while it helped, it certainly didn't led to magical 7pm to 7am bliss. And that's okay. It drives me CRAZY that we all judge ourselves so much about our children's sleep habits.

  34. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @Mrs squirreld: Nobody hates you! Slightly envious, yes! hehe

  35. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    The reason I started this thread is because I think I have read just about every sleep training book and website that has been recommended, and I feel like I have tried to do everything "right", but he still doesn't make it all night long. I guess when you have so many experts telling you that if you would just do it "right" then it would "work", it makes it hard to see past the failure. In my head I know that all babies are different and need different things, but it has been so ingrained in my brain that it is hard to get past. Thanks for all the responses! I am glad I am not alone haha!

  36. californiadreams

    pomegranate / 3411 posts

    @Mrs. Lion: it's funny to me that this was ingrained in your head. Because before i had a baby and especially when i was pregnant, all i ever heard (and it was therefore ingrained into my head!) that i would have to kiss a goodnight's sleep goodbye for a loooonnnnggg time! like for many months, i was not expecting LO to STTN, maybe even a year or two?

    I was in awe when at 8 weeks, he did an 8 hour stretch and then slept 9 - 10 hours for about 3 months (so i still voted no in your poll).....then everything changed and his sleep was not so good for many months....and now starting since 11 months, he just magically starting sleeping SOME nights 11-12 hours straight (he is almost 13m now). The other nights though are more brutal than ever before as he will wake and not go back to sleep for 1 - 2 hours (or more!) in the middle of the night! i am confident he will get there though and i feel i have come this far, i can continue to wait it out.

  37. scotchbonnet

    cherry / 159 posts

    @grizz: ugh, same here. And we had to begin co-sleeping before she started averaging 3-hour chunks of sleep. She is four months and has never sttn. Never even done 5"hours. I feel like such a failure. Naps are a huge fail too. Ugggghhhhh.

  38. Cchoi4

    kiwi / 729 posts

    My LO is 4.5 months old and the longest stretch he ever gave me was 7 hours (that has happened only once). The norm is waking twice a night - usually going to bed 7:30-8pm, waking around 1am and 4am to nurse.

    The ped for my first son said 14-15 lbs was when baby could STTN. My sister in law says 20 lbs is the magic number. My son is 17 lbs but I think he loves to nurse too much to give it up anytime soon.

  39. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    Anybody else appreciate irony? Little man slept all night last night...6:30-5:30. Its a Hellobee miracle!

  40. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Mrs. Lion: Hazzah!! If only you had posted about this sooner, he would've done longer stretches for you sooner!

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