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Taking the Lord's name in vain

  1. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    Using "oh my god" is something I do a lot. Honestly, I think "oh my goodness/gosh" sound contrived and weird. I won't stop LO from saying it either. I do say Jesus Christ (and Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ) a lot, but reading through this I'm willing to reconsider that one. I don't say it in front of my (highly religious) family already.

    I will say that DH and I are way more laid back about what we consider a big deal on the curse word front. Possibly because I was raised with so many restrictions (even "darn" type words were banned, because they were just another way of cursing, and things like "butt" were banned as well), I just don't think it's a big deal. We'll teach LO appropriate contexts for it, and she can more or less say what she wants as she's old enough to understand when it's okay. (Like not at school.)

  2. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @.twist: Why shouldn't they be compared? They are both words and they both have the potential to hurt people.

    That's what it all comes down to for me. Doesn't matter what the actual word is. I am not at all saying that I am perfect and I don't slip, but I make an effort to eliminate certain things from my vocabulary. I don't demand the same from others.

    But in any event, we can agree to disagree.

  3. coopsmama

    cantaloupe / 6059 posts

    @looch: At the end of the day, you phrased it better than I could - if the word has the potential to offend, I make the effort to eliminate it from my vocabulary.

    We can use examples and disagree all day long so I'll just leave it to that.

  4. daniellemybelle

    cantaloupe / 6669 posts

    @Torchwood: I was raised with the same kind of restrictions. We were not supposed to say "butt" or "crap" or "stupid." There were a lot of "bad" words in our house.

    While it might have been over the top, I guess it has programmed me to be highly sensitive to the vocabularies of children. I wouldn't care at all if an adult said "crap" or "fuck" or whatever the hell they want to say. It probably wouldn't even register. But I guess I like a child to sound more polite/innocent so when I hear kids - even younger teenagers - use "bad" language, I'm not a huge fan. Obviously they are not my kids and so it's none of my business! But I can't shake how I was brought up so I am ultimately raising LO the same way.

    ETA: To me, it's similar to me to teaching LO to say, "Ms. (First Name)," and "Yes, ma'am/No, ma'am." When she's an adult she can speak however she wants but politeness/respect from a child is just something that is ingrained in me. I'm from the South.

  5. jessibear

    apricot / 409 posts

    All words have the potential to offend. And it will all, always, come back to personal choice. It's never my intent to offend anyone but will probably frequently offend someone.

    I'm interested, would those for whom this is offensive be equally offended by someone saying "ay dios mio?" Is it the English word for god that is offensive or any language? Allah is simply god in another language. While I agree that American culture is perhaps more inclined to "take the lord's name in vain," and not those of other religions, I think that speaks more toward our demographic and vernacular than prioritizing protection of other religions more than Christianity.

    Again, know your audience and try not to be an asshole. But I don't live life focused on aligning myself with the beliefs of others. These are offensive terms to you. They aren't to me and I don't use them to offend. I'll stay as cognizant of my audience when employing these terms as I am with my use of other exclamatory phrases. So, basically, not with my boss or her bosses. But I'll always try not to be an asshole.

  6. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @jessibear: ay Dios mio means oh my God, right? I have used and heard that the same way people use OMG or omigod.

  7. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    Also wanted to add- I don't see oh my god as the same as Jesus Christ as an exclamation. It's not specific to a particular god. I don't capitalize it, and I actually say oh my gods often as not, because I'm a nerd and watch too much battlestar galactica.

  8. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    @daniellemybelle: Oddly, I was *not* raised to say ma'am/sir or Ms./Mr. (name). My little brother and sister were though.

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