Has anyone else had problems traveling with more than 3.4 ounces of pumped milk and no baby?
Has anyone else had problems traveling with more than 3.4 ounces of pumped milk and no baby?
hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts
No, the airline security tested my pumped milk and I was on my way!
pear / 1657 posts
I haven't. I have travelled with four days worth of frozen milk as a carry on and had no issues. I would have been beyond pissed if they'd thrown it away. I probably would have insisted that they let me go back to the ticket counter and check the cooler.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
That 3.4 oz rule doesn't even apply to breast milk!
http://www.tsa.gov/traveling-formula-breast-milk-and-juice
"However, travelers flying with or without a child may bring medically necessary liquids, such as formula, breast milk and juice, in quantities greater than 3.4 ounces in their carry-on baggage."
ETA: Ooops - this is a US rule and Heathrow is in the UK - my bad!!
kiwi / 635 posts
@MrsH: I was traveling in Ireland without baby and chose to put my 30-40 ounces of pumped milk from the 6 day trip in checked luggage for this exact reason...the law is different in Europe. In the US I would have carried it on.
apricot / 411 posts
Here's what Heathrow has to say about taking breastmilk on board:
http://www.heathrowairport.com/heathrow-airport-guide/heathrow-security/faqs#breastmilk
I'd be so incredibly annoyed.
kiwi / 635 posts
@miramira: That link says because she was not with the baby she could not being it in carry-on (cabin) luggage:
Can I carry breast milk in the cabin?
If you are travelling with a baby or infant you can carry a reasonable amount outside of your liquid bag for your journey. To assist security screening, please do not carry these items in a flask. If you are not travelling with a baby / infant all your liquids must comply with the 100ml rule. Spare supplies should be packed in hold baggage.
pear / 1881 posts
@Adira: She was in England (which I didn't catch when I first read it). I bet that their rules might be different? Either way, I'd be pissed. At least she didn't have more than the 10 oz that was thrown.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@NorthStar: Thanks for the clarification! I just realized that, so their rules are different than ours. What a bummer for Alyssa.
nectarine / 2054 posts
Heathrow is *the worst* for that stuff. Each time I've flown through there with baby stuff it's been a hassle. When I've taken pumped milk with me to feed to DS they made him (or me, they generously gave me that option too) taste some to prove that it wasn't explosives. I also had to throw out a yogurt I brought for DS to have on the flight, because it wasn't "baby yogurt", it was just regular yogurt (even though it was food for DS). Once I had a run-in with a supervisor who nearly made me throw out my frozen ice packs that were keeping milk cold on the flight. AARGH. Heathrow.
pomelo / 5258 posts
I got hassled by TSA only when I had an ice pack and no breast milk. I was on a one day business trip and forgot a piece to my pump. By the end of the day I was so engorged and frustrated. The agent gave me grief because I had a melting ice pack and no milk. He tried to throw my Medela bottle-shaped ice pack away and I burst into tears. Technically since I had no milk I wasn't protected, I think. In the end a supervisor let my ice pack through.
apricot / 347 posts
No!! I brought mine frozen but I had 12 oz when I traveled with my 4 week old. I would have freaked!!!
cantaloupe / 6885 posts
That's so unfortunate.
I EPed and went away without LO for a long weekend...on the way there I had my empty cooler with freezer packs and they questioned me but no real trouble. On the way back I had 100oz of BM and the security agent just checked with his supervisor but it was all fine. I would have been devastated if I had to dump it!
grapefruit / 4400 posts
Sucks for her, but it doesn't sound like the security agent was in the wrong-- the rules were being followed.
grapefruit / 4355 posts
Honestly – I hate that such a fuss is being made about this. The rules are very clearly stated and they are different from those in the US. She had every ability to look them up and follow them accordingly.
pomegranate / 3314 posts
I find her to be really annoying, honestly, with all the attention-seeking. Rules are rules - deal with it.
pineapple / 12526 posts
She should have been aware of the airport rules. Her fault. She needs to find her big girl panties and deal with it. I find her really obnoxious about the whole breastfeeding issue anyway. You'd think she's the first woman to ever do it, or something.
pear / 1672 posts
I would have been livid. While I was still pumping, I used to have to travel sometimes 3-4 days for work. No TSA agent gave me any issues. Once a woman tried to even say something and I told her that I was well within TSA regulations to carry breastmilk. I think she was shocked that I would even mention that (some times the former lawyer in me comes out).
Also for those who are interested here are the rules regarding carrying breastmilk via the TSA's website.
http://www.tsa.gov/traveling-formula-breast-milk-and-juice
I find other countries are much more strict about liquids when flying from abroad to the U.S. Instead of letting you buy liquids after you've been through security, they will confiscate ALL liquids before getting on a plane to the U.S. They're not interested in parsing through things whether you bought at the food kiosk across from your gate or not. I think it's done to comply with U.S. regulations without having to think much about it, but it has meant that I have had to be on flights that are sometimes 12 hours without any water of my own. Not fun.
grapefruit / 4455 posts
I agree with those who said she was in the wrong. They're following the rules and doing their job! Her tweet sounds so whiny.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@BKCaribBaby: on that note, I had a package of wipes confiscated while flying out of Europe to the US, the agent told me that they were considered liquids, who knew? But I just handed them over and carried on.
pomegranate / 3314 posts
@loveisstrange: YES. I mean, you breastfeed. We all get it, now let's move on.
wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts
It just sucks!! I mean, I understand her frustration... 10 oz is A LOT for me so I would literally be wailing on the floor lol.
grapefruit / 4321 posts
Yes, they followed the rules. But, that doesn't mean she doesn't have a right to disagree with the rules. Some rules are bad, and this is one of them. I'm pretty sure the large majority of mothers who have ever pumped would have been very unhappy to have to throw out their breastmillk. In all honesty if I were flying internationally, I think I probably would make an assumption that the rules would be the same as they are in the US.
@loveisstrange: @meredithNYC: Just because someone chooses to breastfeed and advocate for what she thinks is best for breastfeeding mothers that doesn't make her "obnoxious" or mean she's on some sort of mission to impress us all with her ability to breastfeed.
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
Yup! I was traveling WITH DS and had to toss milk from two bottles so about 10oz worth? They said the machine testing the bottles gave off more than 2 explosive indicators. I had two choices - either dump the milk and keep the bottle, or wait in the holding area for the explosive team to come and inspect everything and give me clearance. I didn't have time to wait around so I told them to dump the milk. Thankfully, DS was a bit older so I just supplemented with WCM instead.
I didn't have any problems on the return flight though. Same bottles!
eggplant / 11716 posts
As an EPer, I would have been so sad--I know what it's like to know you have little/no stash at home and know your baby needs what you have pumped while away. My LO was MSPI and wouldn't take Neocate, so I didn't have any options other than BM.
I like that extra attention is being given, so that maybe it spurs on some policy change. My LO also has to travel with special food, and we carry a doctor note, the foods and the milk are tested, and we are subject to an extra body pay down, which I don't mind because we can't just go through security and buy cows milk or something.
I think testing the milk bags is a safe and fair alternative to the current rule.
pomegranate / 3314 posts
@Truth Bombs: eh, I find her obnoxious. Agree to disagree, I guess.
pear / 1698 posts
I've flown a ton with breast milk and no baby and never had issues. I usually carry it on frozen. I usually have 5 full days of pumping so it's about 100 oz. I've never tried international flights though.
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
@BKCaribBaby: I was looking for the regulations to mention moms tasting the milk as one way to screen that it's safe, but nope, looks like individual TSA agents request that one all on their own.
grapefruit / 4455 posts
She can disagree with the rules all she likes, and though I do personally think she loves the attention for breastfeeding, whatever, it could be still a good rule to try to get changed or bring awareness to...but getting into a Twitter argument with an airport representative over a government rule just rubs me the wrong way. S/he didn't make the rule and the people who threw out her breast milk- the airport, the people she's complaining about- probably have no authority to make exceptions. Just my opinion.
pineapple / 12526 posts
@Truth Bombs: Ehhhh. Not gonna argue with you. You have your opinion and i have mine. I find her particular brand of "advocacy" obnoxious.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@BKCaribBaby: It just highlights the fact that the rules are different, not always better, truth be told.
kiwi / 541 posts
I never had this problem while traveling in the US. I carried on pre-mixed formula in case I couldn't nurse. They did want to screen the pre-mixed formula bottles which concerned me. And every airport was different with how they handled it. You just have to be understanding and go with the flow. It sucks but better to take it in stride than get upset over it.
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