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@shortcake: very well-said.
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What is the point of this post, OP?
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@MerryC: Even drops have been proven to benefit babies.
@Rainbow Sprinkles: This post clearly has no point anymore.
There were a few posts last night with some very misguided statements. I posted facts in a separate post, in order to not directly point fingers at people. That obviously back fired.
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@junebugmama: I got your point! It was just helpful information, thank you!
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@junebugmama: by not posting on the posts you found inaccurate you really missed a great opportunity to educate the community. I often read through old posts and review/ research the comments. Having a difference of opinion, sharing one's own experience enhances the post. Next time pleassse put your two cents in!
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@regberadaisy: Your 3am newborn visit sounds similar to our experience. At Day 3, my milk hadn't come in and my son was pissed off and screaming. We went and got formula until it came in. After a tearful visit to the peds, we got formula, bottles, nipples to get us through that time. Once my supply was established, he's been EBF ever since. I pump at work and worry constantly about my supply. MMP has been helpful moreso than just fenugreek.
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@rachiecakes: Oh my gosh that is so sad. It's understandable though. I know I bought into the breastfeeding dogma hook, line and sinker. I can totally see why someone would think their doctor is just pushing formula unnecessarily or that supplementing with a little formula before your milk comes in will tank your supply, because that kind of paranoia is everywhere. Thank goodness I had an amazing LC who kindly explained my baby was losing weight at an alarming rate and showed me how to formula feed.
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@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I hate to be viewed as confrontational, especially on this topic. I feel that most people assume I think they are bad parents, or their children are suffering, because breast feeding wasn't their choice. Unfortunately, that exact thing happened in this post.
Lets be honest, regardless of how you choose to feed your baby, where you decide for your baby to sleep, etc. being a parent is hard as hell. Probably, the hardest thing I have ever decided to do. I respect and feel for anyone who is trying to do the best for their children.
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@rachiecakes @hummusgirl I also had to supplement. I was induced due to pre-eclampsia and my milk did not come in for 10 plus days. My first pedi actually told me everything was fine and she "could tell" that my milk had come in. I didn't trust that, I felt like something was off and met with an amazing LC, who agreed with me. My son had lost over a pound at the time.
I just chose to use donor milk instead of formula. I feel lucky to have had that option, but would have given formula gladly if I didn't have that choice.
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@jedeve: Excellent point. Not every assertion is about each of us as individuals! It's hard but I think sometimes we as mamas are a little touchy on this and many other topics!
@junebugmama: I appreciate the info and your intentions and I think this thread has gotten out of control!
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I think that the use of formula when necessary is a benefit that cannot be understated. I am an NICU nurse, and I am also working on becoming an IBCLC, but I have a great respect for the use of formula as well.
I think a lot of "lactivists" end up do the breast feeding movement a great disservice actually, because their stance and attitudes can be quite off putting, and like any other extremely strong viewed person, can come off as narrow minded and judgemental (even if they aren't trying to be).
Like anything else in life, a balanced approach and keeping open minded, as well as avoiding inflammatory language will get you a lot farther with people.
We have a particularly staunch lactivist LC that we used to consult in out NICU, at ended up putting off more Moms than she helped, so we no longer bring her in, especially since our NICU has a 90% breast feeding success rate (ie still breastfeeding at 3 months post discharge).
I love breastfeeding MY baby, and we struggled like crazy with inverted nipples (even though I prepped then with breast shells for 4 weeks prior to birth), jaundice, low blood sugar, and excessive weight loss, even despite me offering formula supplementation after every feed from birth until my milk came in. Had I not been open minded and used formula, my baby almost certainly would have ended up admitted to NICU with glucose IVs and phototherapy lights.
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I just wanted to say that when I skimmed the title of this thread, I thought it said "breeding facts and information."
Fail.
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