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For those that are following this thread, last night went like this:
8:44-8:56 - cry, fell asleep
9:04-9:06 - cry, fell asleep
6:22-6:26 - cry, fell asleep
7:45 - awake for the dayThat's 18 minutes of total crying as opposed to 60 the night before. And 14 minutes of crying to get to sleep as opposed to 33 the night before. I'm amazed and I really hope this continues tonight.
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@BelugaBean: that's great! I think every day it gets a little easier.
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@BelugaBean: that sounds heavenly! DD is 6 months and her sleep seems to be getting worse. We tried to CIO last week for 2 nights unsuccessfully and then she got sick so we stopped. DD cried for 2 hours straight and no patting or comforting would help
it's good to see that it's working for you! Gives me hope. We will try again once she's better.
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@leelee: Did you go in and check? Or was it 2 hours of straight crying? I've noticed if I check on LO he gets even more worked up then if I just leave him be.
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@littlek: it was 2 hours of pretty much straight crying. She would stop for a minute then it would start all over again
DH couldn't take it anymore at the 2 hour mark and picked her up and as soon as he did she let out a big laugh as if she was saying "I win!"
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Tonight didn't go so well. I think it was a combination of us waiting too long to get her to bed, it being a little warmer in her room, and her getting herself trapped in a corner in her crib. She cried for 45 minutes then fell asleep around 7.
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@BelugaBean: awwww that's rough.. Hopefully she will sleep through the night!
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@leelee: that's dedication to crying! The most my LO has cried is 40 minutes.
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@BelugaBean: I am following along, as we started Ferber last night!
Question - she woke up crying around 5:15. I'd like to aim for a wake-up time b/w 7-7:30. When in our room, she woke up anywhere from 7-8:30. I did the 3 minute check, then 5 minute check. She cried off and on for another 20 minutes, then fell back asleep until just before 7. Should I have just had her get up for the day at 5:15 though? She cried the hardest during that period.
We put her down at 8. She woke around 10, fell asleep within 3 minutes, again around 12:30 & was back to sleep within 5 minutes. I nursed her at 1:30 and she went back down without a problem.
I was expecting it to be A LOT worse than what it was! Not that I think tonight will be magically better or anything, but I was happy with night 1.
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@bienlivingdesign: I had this issue this morning. She normally gets up between 7-7:30 but woke up at 6:20. I fed her and tried to get her back to sleep in her crib and it didn't go very well. She fell asleep after 9 minutes of crying but only slept 10 minutes. I think next time I'll just get her up for the day and I think eventually she'll be more consistent with her wake up time.
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@bienlivingdesign: Do you think the checks might have gotten her more worked up? Maybe tomorrow you can try checking on her at 10 minutes instead? That gives her a little more time to possibly fall asleep.
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I decided to start nap training today but for the morning nap she slept on me due to a lot of things that went wrong this morning. She had pooped and peed all over herself and after I cleaned her up, I didn't have the heart to put her down (I know, I need to be stronger).
So we started at the midday nap. It took 37 minutes of crying and she was asleep around an hour and ten minutes with a couple of interruptions where she cried for a minute or two.
The last nap took 18 minutes of crying for her to fall asleep. She started it about 30 minutes after I would have liked but that's okay. It's still an improvement and hopefully the night sleep goes better than last night.
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I can't believe what I'm seeing. If this sticks, it took two minutes of crying for her to fall asleep tonight! Two! I hope she stays asleep because that would be awesome.
I've been nursing her to top her off after her evening bottle with DH then taking her off when she gets drowsy and laying her down. She didn't show much of an interest in the nursing tonight and seemed fussy. So I just laid her down. And she's asleep.
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@BelugaBean: Yay! Fingers crossed tonight goes well!
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Last night, the two minutes of crying was all it took. About an hour later she had maybe 30 seconds of crying and then around 2:30am she had 10 minutes of crying but that was it. So the total last night was around 12-13 minutes. She slept 7pm-6:45am.
The first attempt at a nap today went badly. She cried for close to an hour and I went and got her. I fed her and played with her then laid her back down an hour later (which put her at being awake for close to four hours). She cried for about 17 minutes on and off then fell asleep and has been asleep for 40 minutes now without a peep.
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@BelugaBean: Ah! Yay about last night! That's AWESOME! As for the nap, she may just not have been ready to take a nap. C does that sometimes too.
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@zippylef: Maybe. She seemed tired but when I got her, she wanted to play.
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@BelugaBean: Yea!! Great night last night!!
Good luck with naps today!
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I never get hopeful too early but if this sticks, this nap would have only taken 7 minutes of crying. I was worried she wasn't ready for a nap but she looked like she was slowing down so I took a chance and it looks like I was possibly right.
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@BelugaBean: Sounds like things are working well for you!!
I have a general question. LO sleeps through the night pretty much for us...about 10:30pm - 6am is what we get. We have to rock him to sleep every night though. Do the CIO methods work with just getting your baby to sleep on his own even though he's been sleeping through the night for a while now? I think we would have to start his bedtime routine a little earlier if he's going to cry for a while, but I just don't know how to get him off of needing us to rock him to sleep.
Also, if we do go in when he's crying, patting him doesn't calm him. It gets him more upset. Do we just wait it out?
And one last thing...are any of your babies still swaddled? We're trying to break him of the swaddle, but it seems as if every time we put him down, he rubs his binky out of his mouth and wakes up. We then have to start the process over again and it's exhausting.
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@2PeasinaPod: We've used it to get her used to falling asleep on her own without nursing and it helps her get used to not having the pacifier in the middle of the night.
With the swaddle (we use a Woombie), we waited until her sleep was bad anyway and taking her arms out didn't seem to make a difference. It was a really easy transition.
I'm not sure how old your LO is but my LO used to sleep really well through the night and right before she turned four months old was when everything went bad. Around five months it just went from bad to worse and now she's almost six months and we're doing this to keep it from getting worse.
She seems to be dropping the nursing/sleep association though and she does well falling back asleep at night by herself without her pacifier (we had been putting it back in).
Also, others have said it too, but with our LO, checks seem to make her angrier unless she needed something specific (the other night she trapped herself in a corner in her crib).
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She fought her last nap of the day to the point where it didn't happen. So she went to bed early and she fell asleep within 3 minutes of crying. Hopefully this continues for nights and soon happens for naps.
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@Belugabean I'm glad to hear your LO is fussing less. I'm also sleep training so I know how good all those little accomplisments feel
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So Monday night was indeed magically better! We put her down & she was fussy for a few minutes, then slept for 10 hours straight! I could not believe it when I woke up a 6 am and she was still asleep!
She had her 4 month shots that afternoon though, and I was sure that contributed to it. So I prepared myself for tonight (last night?) to be worse.
She was crying then stopping, crying then stopping for about an hour. Fell asleep for good at 9:15.
Woke at 1:20 am and has been crying off and on for awhile now. Have been doing the Ferber check-ins at 10, 12, 15, 20 minutes, but they do seem to get her more riled up.
I think I am going to nurse her now bc she is probably hungry now! This is rough!
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okay, nursed her & laid her back down drowsy. No crying (yet).
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@bienlivingdesign: Did she go back to sleep when you laid her back down?
Last night it only took those 3 minutes of crying for her to fall asleep. All night she had maybe two wake ups where she fussed, but didn't cry. She ended up sleeping 6:20pm-7am which was great!
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@BelugaBean: yep! Slept until we got her up at 7:15. Not sure if she was hungry or just needed to be comforted?
At her ped appt on Monday, the doc said that it was fine to try to drop that middle of the night feeding & get her to sleep 12 hours. So when she slept for 10 hours straight, I couldn't believe it could be that easy! Again, I thought her shots had something to do with being so tired.
That is awesome that your daughter slept so great!
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@bienlivingdesign: We have 6 month shots next Friday so I'm hoping that we can get her in a good routine before then so it doesn't mess with her sleep.
I'm so excited though that I can probably tell the doctor she's sleeping (and hopefully napping) well though. At the 4 month visit I was pretty much begging him for sleep advice. And actually, his advice worked, we just didn't follow it for a while (he said to move her to her own room).
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@bienlivingdesign: Nice!! Sounds like LOs sleep is improving.
We had an okay night. LO napped for 1.5 hours at daycare, so he was exhausted when we got him home. He fell asleep at 7:30 and slept till 1 a.m. when I got him up and fed him. He cried for 20 mins and then slept till 7 a.m. when I got him up for daycare.
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Her first nap of the day isn't going so well. She's been crying on and off for 33 minutes now. She falls asleep (or seems to) for about a minute or two and then gets worked back up.
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@littlek: We increased our check-in intervals. I think she gets more worked up when I go in vs. when my husband does. I read that babies can smell your milk??
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@bienlivingdesign: They can! I have DH check on LO or I skip the checks. But we do have a set amount of time I will let him cry if he wakes up in the night (possible night feeding) and that's 10 minutes. If I have just fed him I let him CIO because I know he's just fighting sleep not hungry.
@BelugaBean: Hmm, maybe not tired enough? What was the time that LO has been awake? You may want to scrap this nap and try in an hour.
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@littlek: I'm thinking that's what's happening since this is the second day in a row that it's failed. I've been putting her down around 8:30 after she wakes up at 7 and she just won't go to sleep. Yesterday she didn't fall asleep until 10:30ish so maybe tomorrow I'll try 9 or 9:30 because she does seem tired but maybe needs a little longer.
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@littlek: Just to clarify - you let him cry for 10 minutes, tops or check on him every 10 minutes? Just curious!
I just laid her down for her first nap & she is crying. I know she is tired though, so hopefully she calms down soon.
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@bienlivingdesign: I let him cry for 10 minutes and then I check on him, which usually makes him madder, so I just pick him up then.
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Naps are not going well today. She's been awake almost four hours and I know she's tired but she's fighting so hard. And every time she lays her head down, I get hopeful, but it's like she's just taking a minute to gain her strength back up to cry more. I don't know why she's having such a rough time today.
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@littlek: gotcha - thanks!! We're trying to follow Ferber to a T, so we are doing the check-ins...which I obviously failed at last night because I ended up getting her out, changing her diaper (I could tell/smell that she had pooped) and nursing her. She ended up sleeping the rest of the night until we woke her up, so I am fine with that!
@BelugaBean: so sorry
After your awesome success with night sleeping, I know great naps are just around the corner for you! I am so very grateful that you started this thread!!
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@BelugaBean: Maybe she is overtired? How long are you letting her cry?
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@littlek: The first time she went 45-50 minutes. Every time since, I've let her go about 15-20 minutes.
I do know she's overtired right now. I tried to get her to nap like she used to and she wouldn't do that either. I just tried again and after 7 minutes of crying she laid her head down and has been like that for 3 minute so maybe she's finally asleep.
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2nd nap of the day = success! 5 minutes of off/on fussing and then out. Morning nap was a bit tougher, but she did end up sleeping for appx 45 minutes.
it's good to see that it's working for you! Gives me hope. We will try again once she's better.
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