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  1. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: Nope this will be the first time.

  2. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @mrskansas: Gotcha. Good luck!! I was a ball of anxiety about mine as well I was told it was incredibly painful and I think I was most nervous about that.. or that we would find out I didn't even have ovaries or something crazy ha! It did hurt but I didn't have time to take any Aspirin beforehand so I heard that helps a lot. I have bad menstrual cramps though and to me it just felt like that. The good thing though is that it's super fast! The whole process couldn't have been more than a few minutes. And at mine they had the screen on in front of me so I could see as they did and walked away knowing what they found out. I did have some residual cramping that evening and some spotting but nothing a heating pad, Advil, and some couch time couldn't handle. So just plan to take it easy afterwards.

    Oh and they saw a very small spot on my HSG that they couldn't tell if it was a polyp or an air bubble so I had to have it basically redone at my OBGYNO with an ultrasound and saline to blow out the polyp andddd it turned out to just be a stinking air bubble That hurt way more than the HSG did!!

  3. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: The actual procedure doesn't scare me, just the results. I've had IUDs, cervical balloons and pitocin contractions so hopefully it won't be bad. I've read that if you have a blocked tube is can be pretty painful and that's what I'm worried about.

    I'm really glad that I'll be able to watch the screen (I think!) and know the results right away because the waiting would drive me crazy!!

  4. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: Fingers crossed your BFP is right around the corner!

  5. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @mrskansas: Is there anything you can do if your tubes are blocked? I'm not really sure how that all works.

    Sometimes I wonder if my tubes are blocked or if maybe something weird happened when I was having my son (he was off kilter with his hand by his face and huge at nearly 10 lbs) but I can't imagine that would cause scarring or anything.

  6. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: I'm sorry, hon! I hope they can put your mind at ease and your doctor can help alleviate your worries. Will you let us know how it goes?

  7. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @crazydoglady: If both of my tubes are blocked, IVF would be our only option. I had tubal sparing surgery for an ectopic last year that could have eventually caused my tube(s) to become blocked.
    I do think it's unlikely that both of my tubes are blocked since I have been pregnant numerous times since that surgery but it's possible that it happened recently (according to the RE anyways).

  8. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @mrskansas: I see. Let us know how it goes! I hope everything is clear!

  9. LabradorLover

    kiwi / 548 posts

    @mrskansas: I hope it goes well! My HSG was painful with the balloon but like others, I was able to see it and get the results right then and there. Fingers crossed that there aren't any issues!!

    @OurEastAndWest: keep us updated about your appointment! I hope it went well!

  10. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @LabradorLover: Thank you!

  11. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    Well, I am disappointed Our appointment with my RE started out great, and I still feel like we got a lot of information out of it, but we can't move forward with *beginning* the IVF process for another 1-3 months from now

    My husband was a social smoker in high school/college and has quit many times but still uses Nicorete gum to help keep cigarette cravings at bay. Apparently she doesn't want him to be on ANY nicotine at all. None. It is up to us to decide if we want to start IVF before he goes a full 3 months without any nicotine like she'd prefer, but it needs to be at least one full month before we can schedule anything. So we'll have to make another appointment in a month or so and go back to discuss the actual details of the plan and make the final decisions, all of that. Which obviously means it won't happen right after that so we're really looking at months from now before we can begin. *sigh*

    We received a link to a video about IVF to watch but really other than that we are just at a standstill. 'Keep taking your vitamins, eating right, and no nicotine.' I was hoping we could at least do the egg retrieval in the next few months so we could go into / start the new year KNOWING if IVF was even a possibility for us... We knew our RE wasn't a fan of him using nicotine but never thought it would be a reason we couldn't move forward. She didn't make him stop before our IUIs so we just were so surprised we couldn't start IVF because of it. My husband felt terrible of course but I wasn't mad at him at all, or at my RE for that matter, just at the whole process of infertility in general! Even when we try to make a plan, we can't make a plan! Grrr!!!

    So we are still at square one. Yuck, yuck, yuck! I am letting myself be down about it today {...and maybe tomorrow too ha} then I'm on a mission to get myself in a healthy mind & body, and start the research process on IVF so I can be armed with answers before they are even asked ha!

  12. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: Ugh I'm sorry. I can't imagine how frustrating that is. I could understand your RE's reasoning if you were the one using nicotine, but your husband? That seems strange.

    Infertility does suck so much. It seems like no matter what you do there is always a road block. Hugs girl.

  13. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: I'm so sorry. That must be really frustrating. Could you just wait the one month like she suggested? Especially since it will still be some time before the ball gets rolling and they need his "guys?"

  14. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    This past month I was worried/excited about the possibility of twins and my friend who started trying at the same time (took her 6 months) just found out she is pregnant with twins. I am happy for her (and also a little glad it isn't me because one newborn was hard enough) but it still makes me sad. Then I think of another friend who lost her husband last year and think she would give anything to have the opportunity to even try for another baby with her husband. Not sure why I am sharing this, but I am trying to be happy with what I have but also acknowledge that my heart wants more...it's a difficult balancing act.

  15. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: I am right there with you on balancing the two

  16. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: I’m so sorry it was disappointing I really hate IF and what it does to our hearts

  17. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @mrskansas: @crazydoglady: Frustrating is a great word! We were both disappointed about it for sure. I personally have never smoked a cigarette in my life, but I guess there is enough data that nicotine can cause issues that she doesn't mess around with it {...Even though his sperm count was 255 million pre-wash for our first IUI so obviously that is not our infertility issue! }

    My next AF is due on Thanksgiving {just like last year, how thoughtful of her!} so then for the following cycle AF would be due around Christmas- which is *right* when we'll be in Colorado for the holidays So I'm guessing that the earliest we could actually start IVF is not until the end of January! That's why I was so bummed. I was hoping that since we were seeing her this early in my current cycle that we would be able to start the stims & all that right after my period comes around Thanksgiving. That way we could do the egg retrieval part of the process in early-mid December and be able to relax over the holidays having the {first} retrieval done and therefore having a better grasp on what our overall chances really are- do I actually have bad quality eggs, etc. I'm still not 100% sure how all of this IVF business works so maybe I'm wrong but I always thought stims start at/right after your AF.

    We asked if it was an option to do the egg retrieval only and freeze my eggs and then have his sperm 'join in the party later', haha, but they want to freeze embryos not eggs; unless it's just not possible for whatever reason of course.

    Hopefully I'm wrong about the IVF timeline, I'm sure I'll ask around the IVF boards here and see what I can figure out, but in the meantime I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for an egg retrieval starting the end of January and the FET for sometime in February or March I guess. Just feels so far away, you know?? Like you said, with TTC there's always a roadblock somewhere!

  18. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @crazydoglady: It is definitely a balancing act of emotions, I totally get it

  19. Marfi

    clementine / 794 posts

    Whelp, my surgery to have the uterine septum removed is done! I was a little crampy today but nothing some good old acetaminophen wouldn't help. Now its just a waiting game. First waiting for the balloon in my uterus to be removed (early next week) then waiting for December so we can sit down with my RE and decide on a plan for IVF which we will start in January! I have to do two full cycles and then we will start IVF, my current cycle counts as the first so I'll have one more full cycle then IVF will start at the beginning of my cycle that starts in January!

  20. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @Marfi: that’s great I’m glad you have a plan to move forward! So hopeful for you!

  21. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @Marfi: I'm so glad your procedure went well & wasn't too painful! I'll be starting up IVF in January as well so we can be IVF buddies

  22. LabradorLover

    kiwi / 548 posts

    @OurEastAndWest & @Marfi: good luck to both of you on your IVF journeys!!

    I had an appointment with my RE yesterday to discuss what we move on to next cycle if this current cycle doesn't work out. She told me that now that I am ovulating regularly, everything is in our favor and there aren't a lot of options after this because we are unexplained infertility. UGH! She did tell me that Femara on average takes 3-4 cycles for people to get pregnant so i'm hoping this third cycle will be the one!

  23. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @LabradorLover: Thank you I am unexplained as well, which is insanely frustrating, but I SO hope you all are able to make Femera alone work!!

  24. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    Just wanted to wish everyone a happy FRIDAY!!!! Or Fri-YAY as I like to call it

    I hope you all have a GREAT kick off to the weekend and are able to relax with your family in whatever stage you are in your cycle Here's to enjoying one of the last weekends before the holiday season swings into full gear and we have no more free time for 6 weeks straight ha

    Speaking of that, I need to drop like 10 lbs in the next two week since I will inevitably gain it with a million and one holiday events, per usual... I always think I'll be pregnant by the holidays so it won't matter haha Whoops!

  25. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: i was totally planning to be pregnant this holiday season too!

  26. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    My chromosomal analysis came back normal! So relieved.
    And I don't think I posted here yesterday but my HSG was perfect.

  27. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @mrskansas: glad for some good news for you!

  28. OurEastAndWest

    cherry / 134 posts

    @mrskansas: That is WONDERFUL news!!! So happy for you!

  29. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: @bhbee: Same here! I honestly thought I would be gigantically pregnant.

  30. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @mrskansas: I'm glad to hear everything came back great!

  31. LabradorLover

    kiwi / 548 posts

    @mrskansas: yay!! That’s awesome!!

  32. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @OurEastAndWest: I was just reading along and saw that you had some questions about IVF timing. Here were my timelines if it helps you at all.

    My first time (4 years ago) I had my first consult with my RE for IVF in early October. I started stims the day before Thanksgiving. My retrival was first week of December. PGD done right away and froze all. I had one normal embryo and that was transferred Jan 8th. He’s now 3.

    This last time I had my consult with my RE on July 19th 2016. July & August were all paperwork, testing, and BCP. Stims weren’t started until September 9th 2016. First retrival was 9/22 and nothing normal.
    Next stims were started in late october. Forget actual date. Retrieval was Election Day, Nov 6th was it? Or 9th? No pgd normals.
    Took a break and tried to start again in Jan but had some setbacks. Finally was able to start a new protocol in March and had retrival mid April. Finally had 2 normals. Transfer was June 28th. I’m now 22 weeks pregnant.
    All in all it took almost a year to get pregnant and that was only 3 rounds! There’s just a lot of waiting and downtime in IVF land. Hopefully you’re lucky and it takes one, like me the first time.

    One thing to realize in looking at my timeline:
    - there’s usually more red tape to go through so I wouldn’t expect that you’ll start stims in the same month you meet. Like I wouldn’t be too upset that you’re not starting stims around thanksgiving because even without the delays you’re experiencing that wasn’t very likely anyway. It probably would have been more like December.
    - additionally, it really depends on your protocol and doctor. A lot of them like to actually put you on birth control pill for weeks or even a whole cycle before stims are started. OR estrogen priming. That’s what happened to me each time. So when you think you’re starting stims after your period you’re likely actually starting BCP or even estrogen patches.

    So, all this to say, if you are meeting again in Jan to get the official kickoff of IVF, I still wouldn’t expect to be starting stims for maybe 2 cycles after that meeting. Maybe I’m wrong and your doc will do things differently but that’s been my experience. I hope I’m not the bearer of bad news, i just really want to help manage expectations and maybe you’ll be pleasantly surprised instead of disappointed. And there aren’t many of us IVF ladies active around here lately so I wanted to chime in where I could.

  33. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @mrskansas: Do happy for you! The "this is probably all bad luck" line isn't fun to swallow I know, but very glad nothing game changing was revealed.

  34. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    After swearing I wouldn't pee on anything this month, I broke down and used an opk (CD 13). I don't know why but I am questioning whether or not this is positive. DH and I bd on Friday before we were stuck in a hotel room for a wedding with our sick toddler for two nights (yuck) so I am going to try to seduce him tonight. 😂



  35. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: sure looks positive to me! Get to that seduction!

  36. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @crazydoglady: looks like a positive to me too!

  37. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    Blah...DH and I were too tired last night after our trip so I'm going to try to hit today. I'm hoping the whole (sperm can live up to 5 days) pans out. 😂 I'm also hoping that opk but a barely positive becaus they are usually blazing.

  38. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    My husband's karyotype came back normal as well so we are in the category of "bad luck". Luckily that means we can continue to try with the hopes of having some good luck.

    I'm CD 12 today so now I just wait... I guess one perk of losing my job is that I'll have plenty of time to BD

  39. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @mrskansas: I’m right there with you in the bad luck category - it sucks but there is always a little hope. And maybe all that bd will do the trick

    I had to spend the weekend at the hospital with my son for his asthma - it wasn’t super scary but we couldn’t treat it at home. It made me feel very thankful to live in the era of modern medicine, and thankful to have our kids, even if we don’t have another. Feeling in a good mental place, for now at least, about whatever happens this cycle.

  40. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @mrskansas: sorry for the bad luck but glad to read that it isn’t this insurmountable fertility issue - seems like a win to me. Keeping my fingers crossed for you guys this month!!!!

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