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@FliegepilzHut: Thinking of you daily and hoping you are doing OK.

This is right at 5 minutes. It is crazy how much darker it gets after sitting. Both lines are the same color now when I look at it.

@Mrs.Pinecone316 and @mrswin: Lovely lines!!! Now I know there's no way I'm waiting till Friday to test-- your success has gotten me too impatient! I have FRER arriving tomorrow from Amazon, so I guess I'll hold out till Weds morning!

@momazon: woohoo so excited for wednesday!

@Mrs.Pinecone316: congratulations!

@Mrs.Pinecone316: I'm so sorry you aren't feeling good. Anything else you can do to help the bloating? Or just the same things you've been doing? I hope it goes away soon!! Not sure when I'll start testing. I did early on with my last cycle and luckily it worked out. But not sure I will do it again. That was 5dp5dt last time and I did get a positive. This time I'll try to wait at least one more day if I can hold out which will be a week from today. I am going to get tests today and start testing out the trigger.

@lazypanda: That's funny you ask that, because somebody else just asked me the same thing yesterday about whether you can tell if they are boys/girls and I don't know! Maybe somebody else here knows. I'm glad you are starting soon!!

@momazon: Thanks. I just don't get how on only Day 3 it would be changing and not considered the best one if it was more advanced? I don't know. This whole thing is so fascinating and confusing to me at the same time! I'm so glad you are testing tomorrow. Yay!!!

@LovelyPlum: Thanks!!

I'm feeling so good today. My husband went back to work today after being home for the last week and a half to help out at home. Feels weird to be back to normal again, but great at the same time. I felt so yucky last week with the stims/bloating and now I feel so energetic. It's wonderful!! Still feeling hormonal with all the meds, though. I've had quite a few crying spells. I think I'm super sensitive to hormones!

@Mrs.Pinecone316: I told my SO last night when I picked him up from the train. He got in the car and I handed him a bib from my University and told him it looks like we would be needing more! He was pretty excited And then we drove to my parents and had dinner without telling anyone! Sorry to hear about you OHSS symptoms. Have you called your RE? I know they explained that there is a medication that they can prescribe to treat it.

@momazon: Yay for Wednesday!

@Jenn23: FX that you get a next week!

@mrswin: Thanks! That must have been awesome telling your husband the great news!!! And that must have been hard not telling the family at dinner!

@Sunshine1810: That's great to hear!! But that was our "2nd best" one and only 6 cells, so that's why I'm confused. Not sure how it could be behind and advanced at the same time? Well, hopefully it is a good one.

Does anybody know what the cramps mean right after transfer? Had some yesterday and today and it is way too early to feel anything embryo-related, so just wondering what that could be? Not a big deal, but just curious if others had these and what they are.

@Jenn23: I found this website really helpful when I was trying to understand the grading. http://www.advancedfertility.com/embryoquality.htm

@Jenn23: I'll be honest that I may have made the reasoning up. But she definitely did mention possible cramping after transfer. She's not my regular RE.

@swedishfish: I'm sorry, I didn't explain it properly. I can elect to simply stay on the PIO daily (what I did in 2012). They have since changed it to every other day to give "bums a break" as one of the nurses said last week. So they implemented this new way of doing it with the PIO alternating days, with suppositories daily. But she did say you can just do the PIO daily which was their old protocol for many, many years. I haven't picked up the Crinone yet, so I've been doing the PIO daily since Saturday night and am trying to decide what to do.

Edit: Oh and my progesterone my last cycle was plenty high with the PIO. Plus I go in this Friday just for a hormone check. I'm sure if it is too low, they'll have me do both.

@Jenn23: I thought this part on the Advanced Fertility website was great:

"Embryo quality as we see it under the microscope in the IVF lab gives us some reasonable ability to predict the chances for pregnancy after the embryo transfer procedure. However, because there are many other contributing factors involved that we can not see or measure, the generalizations about "quality" made from grading embryos are often inaccurate.

We see some cycles fail after transferring 3 perfect looking embryos, and we also see beautiful babies born after transferring only one "low grade" embryo. The true genetic potential of the embryo to continue normal development is impossible to measure accurately with current technology. Hopefully, future advances will give us better insight.

An important variable that is often overlooked is the embryo transfer technique. A smooth transfer with no trauma to the endometrial lining is essential to give the embryos the best chance for implantation and continuation of normal development.

Ultimately, the true test of embryo quality is whether it implants and develops normally and eventually goes home from the hospital with mom and dad. In other words, embryo grading systems are imperfect, and we always need the pregnancy test, and the final pregnancy outcome, to tell us more about "embryo quality" than a microscope could ever reveal."

Remember, I transferred two beautiful embryos that looked great and were 8 cells and still nothing...I have a friend who transferred two embryos that didn't look great to the embryologist, and she is pregnant with twins. I also had a friend who transferred two 4 cell embryos on day 3 and she has a beautiful baby girl now. It's not a perfect science. I have SO MUCH hope for you!

@momazon: FX that the spotting is related to implantation

@FliegepilzHut: I had blood drawn for a beta today and should get a call tomorrow, second beta is scheduled for Thursday. Hoping for good numbers over the next couple of days. He was surprised because I didn't tell him I was going to test,but he was super happy of course How are you feeling doll?

@Jenn23: I would do which ever feels right to you especially since PIO everyday can't hurt

@Mrs.Pinecone316: I hope they are able to give you some guidance tomorrow, being uncomfortable/in pain sucks and isn't good for you

@swedishfish: I'll check to see which one they called into my pharmacy last week. I assume it is Crinone since that is what I used the first time. But I'm going to try to avoid it as long as possible and just use the PIO.

@Sunshine1810: Thanks, as always. I know that our embryos have a chance, it just makes me sad that they weren't excellent quality so that lowers our chances. Knowing this is it and we have no other shot if this doesn't work is what hurts the most. I'm dreading the call tomorrow that none made it to freeze. Even though I'm 99% sure we won't have any, it'll still hurt to hear somebody say that on the phone.

@momazon: Congrats!! Isn't this around the time that there could be implantation bleeding? I bet that is what it is.

@mrswin: Can't wait to hear your beta results tomorrow!!

@FliegepilzHut: I'm so sorry you are going through this.

@Mrs.Pinecone316: I feel so much better since all that fluid was drained. I could barely walk last week or bend or sleep. And the stims made me soooo sleepy that I was taking naps every day or else I couldn't stay awake. I have much more energy now. I'm so sorry you aren't feeling well. What is it that you think your doctor will say? Just keep drinking fluids? What is the medicine that you could possibly take to help?

Bought four cheapie tests at the dollar store today to test out the trigger. I'll do that starting tomorrow morning.

@FliegepilzHut: I'm sorry that you continue to have such a tough time, it's not fair. Was your OB able to figure out with the RE what the next steps should be? Are you considering a D&C?

@Jenn23: I have all my finger and toes crossed that you get a surprise tomorrow and that you have frosties.

@macintosh: I'm sorry that the doctors weren't clear about your DH's physical therapy and that it is adding to your burden. Once they start you on the Ganirelix hopefully they can estimate your ER date....that's what happened for me. Make sure you are drinking lots of fluids because the bloating got worse for me after ER before it got better and being hydrated will help.