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pomegranate / 3533 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm sorry...that had to be hard news. But, as everyone has said, it just takes 1! No Valium here (I'm frankly not even sure they offered...). If you were able to relax and your mock transfer wasn't too difficult, I would think you'd be fine! Sending lots of love and encouragement to you, DH, and your sweet embies!
honeydew / 7968 posts
@PurplePumps: fx that all you need is the two u will transfer! Since u didn't do icsi, 4/16 sounds pretty high. I had about 19 eggs retrieved. 8 fertilized but 7 of them was from icsi. So that means I only had 1/8 fertilize "naturally." I didn't take Valium.
apricot / 305 posts
@PurplePumps: My doctor did prescribe Vallium for the transfer, and I took it. I'd never taken it before, and I was worried it would make me feel too loopy. It was fine, though. I'm not sure how big of a difference it made. I was definitely calmer than at my other procedures, but I think transfer is also way easier as a patient than any of the other appointments. Fingers crossed for you that those four embies keep growing!
nectarine / 2433 posts
@Leialou: Such a cute comic!
@PurplePumps: Sorry that your update wasn't what you were hoping for but I have my FX that things continue to progress and for a successful transfer I didn't take anything before my transfer, it was pretty easy, just like an IUI really but whatever makes you comfortable
kiwi / 613 posts
@PurplePumps: No Valium here. Transfers are pretty easy for most people, I think. Good luck!!
nectarine / 2433 posts
@Sunshine1810: I don't have my exact numbers but I think it is a good sign that things are better than your last cycle.
nectarine / 2433 posts
@Mrs.Pinecone316: I'm so sorry to hear about Baby B but I'm glad that things are looking good with Baby A
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@mrswin: It feels like forever since I've seen you pop in here! You're doing well, I hope?
nectarine / 2433 posts
@FliegepilzHut: Yeah I haven't been around much, we were away at the cottage for a week and then I got back and am just swamped with work. Also I have been dealing with some serious anxiety, I still don't have much in the way of symptoms and am really worried about something going wrong.
I have been following along with everyone though, just not commenting.
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@mrswin: I'm sorry you're feeling anxious. When was/is your first (or next) U/S? I know it probably doesn't help...but there's a lucky minority of women who tolerate tons of HCG in their systems without symptoms. I hope that's you! Hang in there...
nectarine / 2433 posts
@FliegepilzHut: Thanks I had a u/s on 08/25 and officially graduated from the RE at that point. I don't see my OB for the first time until 09/22 for the NT scan. I hope that's me, it just seems like everyone on the due date thread is talking about how sick they are and all these symptoms
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@mrswin: Maybe you could go back to your RE for one more...if it would make you feel better? Just a thought. I hate that you're worried. Sending hugs!
persimmon / 1085 posts
Just an update that we got sad news yesterday that one of our twins passed since last week's ultrasound. Luckily, our other 'lil one had a strong heartbeat of 150 and is measuring a perfect size. We are so, so happy about that. But at the same time we are sad we lost one baby. It's been rough. Lots of tears and so many mixed emotions.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@PurplePumps: All you need as others said is one good one! I didn't have any to freeze both cycles, but both cycles worked. Fingers crossed for you that all four keep growing!!!
persimmon / 1085 posts
@mrswin: I posted on the other thread, but also think perhaps you can request another ultrasound at your RE for peace of mind? And many women don't have much in the way of symptoms but everything is totally fine!! Look how many stories you see of women who didn't even know they were pregnant for a long time or at all. Sorry you are having such anxiety. I'm going through that too. I think it is normal after going through so much and the whole IVF process. Easier said than done, but try to relax and pamper yourself, keep busy, rest or whatever makes you happy and less stressed.
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@Jenn23: I'm so sorry...but very happy that you still have a healthy little bean in there. Sending lots of positive thoughts for your continuing pregnancy!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@Jenn23: I'm sorry, but hoping for the best for the LO you still have!
Looks like I have 3 left today, and they've opted for a day 3 transfer since there are so few. Will transferring 2 tomorrow.
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@PurplePumps: That sounds good! Sending lots of good wishes and for your transfer tomorrow!
kiwi / 613 posts
@PurplePumps: Fx for tomorrow! Hope you get a sticky one!
@Jenn23: So sorry about your loss, but sending tons of good wishes for your little growing baby!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
We got the call on the way to the office that all 3 embryos were no good anymore. 1 stopped growing, and 2 had actually lost cells. So this cycle is a bust. Time to go home and drown myself in a bottle of wine.
kiwi / 613 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so, so sorry. That's such a difficult setback, after all you've done this cycle to get to this point. Hopefully your RE will have some good plans for how to move forward from here. ((Hugs))
persimmon / 1316 posts
@PurplePumps: Oh no, I am so sorry So disappointing.. Hang in there. Sounds like wine and a bubble bath are in need.
persimmon / 1316 posts
@Robyn_ZA: How are you feeling? Have you decided to test before your beta?
nectarine / 2433 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry lady Take good care of yourself, wine is definitely in order for today.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@momazon: @Mrs.Pinecone316: @mrswin: Thanks ladies. It was a pretty mopey day, but I guess I'm getting over it and trying to look ahead again and figure out what's next... hopefully they have some good info from this round to go forward with. I should be hearing from my doctor sometime Monday.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@Jenn23: I'm sad to read this, and so sorry. I hope you're ok processing the news & your wee one is thriving.
@PurplePumps: I'm sorry. There's never enough words to say.
I'm still waiting on a cycle post-miscarriage, so we can transfer our last frosty.
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@PurplePumps: That's devastating news. I'm so sorry. I'm sure you're right, that your doctor will have learned a lot from your cycle and next time things will be so much better (maybe partial ICSI would be an option for you and DH?). Sending hugs, wine, etc!
honeydew / 7968 posts
@Jenn23: so sorry to hear about one twin. Makes my heart so sad.
@PurplePumps: how disappointing. Hope you get answers. Would your husband now be open to icsi?
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@FliegepilzHut: @tequiero21: Yeah, I mentioned it to him after finding out that only 4 fertilized and we had actually discussed doing half ICSI before, but just kinda forgot and didn't really think it would be necessary with the 16 eggs we got. As of Saturday he did think that maybe all ICSI sounds like the best thing for us, but we will definitely wait to talk to the RE to see if she has any insight on what went 'wrong'. It's just tough to swallow that the potential to get pregnant on the first round covered by insurance went *poof* in just 3 days and the next one is on us. I'm sorry, I feel really bad for saying that since I know so many don't have any coverage, but I had so much hope that something might actually go right for us that I hadn't really thought about a next round.
How do your SO's react to bad news? When I heard the news, I was in stunned silence, then it took everything in me not to burst out into tears. DH just asked me if I was ok and seemed unmoved and just wanted answers, and how to proceed. When we got home, I finally just curled up on the couch and finally lost the battle against the tears and proceeded to switch between crying and falling asleep. DH just continued on with his usual routine and came over to 'bother me' and try to lean on me once in a while. I jsut wanted none of that, I was in no mood to be all cheery with him or have him leaning on me cause I'm still sore and bloated and any pressure on my stomach hurts. But he just doesnt seem to feel sad/disappointed throughout all failed cycles the last 2 years while I'm a wreck. All he has to say is 'well that sucks'. :-\
kiwi / 613 posts
@PurplePumps: Is it definite that your insurance will consider this one a completed IVF cycle, even though you didn't get to transfer? Maybe there will be some stroke of luck and it won't be considered a full cycle, coverage-wise? Or will they maybe at least cover meds, if the rest will be on you?
My SO always tries to be strong for me, and never really breaks down when I'm feeling low about outcomes, and just tries to help me work through what the next steps are, etc. I lean on him a ton, and talk through all my emotions with him, but he doesn't use me as a sounding board in the same way. That doesn't mean he's not feeling sad, or upset, but he just processes his emotions in a different way than I do, and he sees his role as protecting me and taking care of my needs, as well as keeping us driving forward. Maybe your DH thinks that if he shows his sadness that will make you feel even worse? Or maybe he is feeling like he let you down, since he didn't want to go for ICSI? Or maybe he's feeling bummed that his sperm didn't "work" to fertilize all the eggs you made (you know how we can irrationally blame ourselves for so many things). Is he normally the type who just wants to put it behind him, when bad things happen?
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@PurplePumps: I would definitely make sure that retrieval=completed cycle... I'm sorry your DH is coping so differently. I think that's a common issue...doesn't make it any easier. Sending hugs!
pear / 1556 posts
@Jenn23: how are you doing? I'm thinking of you!
@PurplePumps: I am so so sorry!! *hugs* In regards to how my DH acts, I feel like he thinks he needs to be strong for me. He doesn't fall apart like I tend to most of the time. He is more analytic, and like your DH, just wants to know what happened and what the plan is. It gets to me sometimes, but after 3 years of this I am starting to realize that this is just how he processes it all.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@momazon: @FliegepilzHut: I think you guys are right, he just copes differently. He's never been too outwardly emotional for anything, and I think he sees men showing emotions as 'weak' and men are supposed to be 'strong'. I'm waiting for a call back from the financial adviser at the clinic now too to hopefully find out how this will be billed and how much of the lifetime limit I used, though when I asked before the cycle, they said they wouldn't know until it was actually billed. So frustrating. The office totally though that the IUIs was coded and would be billed toward fertility treatments, but it ended up being 'outpatient surgery' so it didn't count, but even they were surprised about that! I hate how insurance is this stupid puzzle no one can figure out. My meds have a separate lifetime max than office visits, and she said those should be covered for up to three rounds with few hundred copay, so I'm very thankful for that.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry I am hopeful that your RE will have learned a lot from your cycle and the next one will be the one for you. As for your DH, mine reacts in exactly the same way... basically says "well that sucks" and then treats me a little more gently, like he's afraid I might explode into tears again if he says or does the wrong thing. I think it's partly just the way he is with emotions, and partly that he wants to be the strong one for me.
pear / 1556 posts
Well I had an ultrasound this morning, and I think I should be triggering soon. I had one at 20mm, one at 19mm, and then a few 18's and 17's. I had a bunch that were in the 13-16 range as well. Last time I triggered when my largest one was 20mm, so I think we are almost there! I'm getting nervous!
persimmon / 1085 posts
@PurplePumps: Oh my, I'm so, so sorry. That is awful. I hope you can find out if they think that ICSI would be better for you and what the RE thinks may have gone wrong. ((hugs))
@Sunshine1810: Thanks. Hanging in there!! I'm so excited for you! Those numbers sound great. When will you find out when you will trigger?!!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@Sunshine1810: That sounds promising!
Sounds like I had an issue with egg quality. Apparently many were polyspermic and didn't 'shut off' after it was fertilized by one sperm and allowed for more to get in. I had no idea this was even possible. I thought and egg HAD to shut off and harden once fertilized. Then the 4 that did just didn't develop very well and arrested at different stages. ICSI would solve the polyspermy issue, so I think we will definitely do that. But my problem with that "solution" is that if the egg was poor quality and didn't know to 'shut off', what would lead me to believe that it would then go on to develop properly?
pear / 1556 posts
@Jenn23: Thanks! I would think I should know today when I will trigger. We waited until my largest follicle was at 20mm last time before trigger, and we are there now. We'll see!
@PurplePumps: I hope so! It's harder to be optimistic this cycle, but I am trying! I do think that ICSI would help. They might also be able to play with your meds to get your egg quality up there. I think I had an egg quality issue last time too. The embryos I transferred seemed to be great quality, but neither of them took, and then none of the others made it to freeze, so I really think it had to be quality.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@Sunshine1810: Did they do anything different with your protocol or medication this time?
pear / 1556 posts
@PurplePumps: She did. I have PCOS, so she suspected I would over respond the first time. Well, I didn't. She started me on 150iu Gonal-F and 150iu of Menopur for 2 days, on the 3rd day I took 150iu of Gonal-F and dropped the Menopur to 75iu. I had blood work done on day 4 and I wasn't responding well at all. For the rest of my cycle I was on 300iu of Gonal-f per day and 300iu of Menopur each day. This time I started on 300iu of each and have stayed that way through the whole cycle. She was hoping I would have better quality this cycle without bouncing my meds all over the place. We'll see! I'll keep you updated!
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