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  1. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: Oh I'm actually not worried at all. I just wanted to put out the disclaimer that I was posting the grades but don't know what they mean. He seemed to think the 5AB was great and so we'll start with that and take it from there.

  2. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    Small update. Third embryo had my unbalanced translocation. Which I expected but glad to know for sure.

    Right now based on travel and lab closure it looks like roughly June 28th will be transfer. Not a lot going on between now and then so I guess this thread will be pretty quiet!

  3. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @SweetiePie: omg that's so soon!! How exciting!

    Unfortunately my friend who just did her first retrieval ended up with no normal embryos and she is obviously devastated.

  4. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: Oh I'm so sorry to hear that. And she wasn't even going to do PGD originally, right? May not be the best time to say it but if I were her I'd be so glad I found out via PGD and just knew rather than possibly failed transfers, miscarriages or worse.

    Obviously you know my first two rounds didn't have any normals so feel free to wall me to exchange info if she'd like to talk.

  5. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @SweetiePie: That's super sweet of you to offer to talk to her. Yeah I'm so glad I convinced her to do pgd. When she was complaining about how hard stimming was, I was like "girl, that is the easy part. Wait until you miscarry or have failed transfers". Those were all so devastating for me! But following everyone's stories on this board has given me such good knowledge about the huge range of possibilities. Thankfully she's on a trip to Mexico this week so she'll be distracted. I gotta convince her to keep trying and that's so hard when you feel it's hopeless. We can all relate to that for sure. Ugh.

  6. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    An update... Went in to get my labs for estrogen and progesterone and an ultrasound to check my lining yesterday. It looks good. Doc prescribed 2mg estrodial 3x a day. We will do more labs and ultrasounds next week and next Friday. If all looks good at that point, then the tentative FET transfer is on 5/25.

    Anything I should be eating, taking, or not doing to prepare during this time? I'm nervous and hopeful.

  7. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @Honeydew: good luck!! Just popping in. I had a successful FET last May ☺️ I drank 8oz POM juice everyday for 5 days before and after transfer (to help w lining), along with an avocado and Brazil nuts daily before and after transfer. I also had McDonald's fries after my transfer 😉 Some people swear it works. lol I took it easy after the transfer for one day, but otherwise kept my activities as normal. Starting now, I would also limit dairy and gluten since they can be inflammatory. I don't have any specific intolerance, but figured that anything helps!! Good luck!!!

  8. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: awesome update, good luck!

  9. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    @Northstar and @sweetiepie. Thank you!

    BTW. since the transfer isn't for another 2 weeks. We are celebrating our anniversary this weekend. Do you think having a drink is a problem? Or nix the alcohol?

  10. NorthStar

    pear / 1881 posts

    @Honeydew: You are welcome! I am sure it would be fine! My birthday was a few weeks before my transfer and I had a few glasses of wine with one of my girl friends

  11. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @Honeydew: enjoy it while you can girl! Good luck!

  12. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: I never restricted anything or went on special diets before my transfer. I now have a 2.5yo. I think it'll be fine

  13. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @Honeydew: i think a couple drinks should be fine! if you have blood flow issues, I'd cut out all caffeine (including chocolate)

  14. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    Hi ladies!

    So I've had a really strange turn of events.

    As you know, I have to do PGD because I have a balanced translocation. So really we should never try to conceive naturally because it's risky. Well, we've been really good about that for almost 4 years when we first found out.

    I think my natural cycle is off from IVF or something because I miscalculated when I would ovulate - and LO and behold I got a very faint BFP last week. Like so faint it wasn't there until it dried and I looked again hours later before I tossed it. I didn't feel any symptoms and I was seriously maybe 8-10dpo but I just looked at a calendar and panicked that maybe I was overly confident with my ovulation estimate. So for a couple days I continued to test and freak out and it got slightly darker but barely. I finally worked up the courage to tell my husband because I was just freaking out. I knew this would not be a viable pregnancy and felt so foolish for messing up and putting off our transfer. We'd have to wait till 10-ish weeks to get nipt done and confirm it was abnormal and then figure out what to do from there.
    Well, I told him and it went fine. Better than fine. So we agreed to just hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

    Lines stopped getting darker and I just kinda knew they wouldn't get any darker. My last 3 pregnancies (2 natural ended in MC and 1 FET who is now my son) I was blazing positive by now (today is my missed period). Today the line is barely there. Like almost no color.
    So now I'm 99.9% it's a chemical but it's mixed feelings. Mostly relieved because I was afraid of so may other possible outcomes (another D&C, later term miscarriage/stillborn, poor quality of life or being faced with a decision of termination for medical reasons).
    But there's still that very small part of me that was hoping it was our insanely crazy miracle "normal" baby.
    But I swear I'm really fine with it and glad we aren't too deraield from our FET.
    Now waiting for my period. I'm hoping it's soon!

    I called my RE today to find out what (if anything) to do and haven't heard back yet. But I'm leaving in about an hour to visit my family. So, not much I can do from there anyway! I imagine he'll just want to see me Monday when I'm back for a blood draw.

    Annnnyhow. Just another "adventure" to add to the list. Lol.

    Swear I'm not looking for sympathy, I just thought it was crazy and felt like sharing. Sort of cathartic. Also, if it messes up our plans I figured I'd explain what happened to you all anyway.

  15. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: Oh my goodness! what a roller coaster! I hope the RE is able to get back to you soon. Thinking of you as you figure out what is going on and what needs to be done

  16. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @SweetiePie: um that is some crazy s--t girl. We can't swear here right? I always hoped we would be able to conceive naturally and still have those crazy thoughts but isn't it funny how the controlled aspect of ivf/pgd is oddly comforting for us veterans? Hope everything goes back to normal and you're still on track for your transfer!

  17. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    have a friend who is trying for #2 that just found out she has incredibly low AMH (she thought she'd just go get things checked out, not expecting anything). she is overwhelmed and heartbroken. Would like to send her a little care package--any suggestions for things to include ?

  18. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @endymion4: Awww, shes probably so nervous.
    Hmmmm if it were me getting a package from my friend I would like:
    - favorite candy
    - some fun magazines (People StyleWatch and InStyle)
    - a bottle of wine
    - a face mask of some sort (something pretty neutral like hydrating - don't want to be like "here's an anti aging mask because you look old!")
    - cozy slippers or cute PJ shorts set for summer
    - a short note saying she's thinking of me

  19. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: thanks for the suggestions!!

  20. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @endymion4: Oh, also if you want to add something fun to make her smile, there are cute wine tumblers on etsy. A mom friend of mine got me this one and every time I go to pour myself a glass of wine it makes me smile. I ended up getting one for my sister just because.

    And they have lots of funny ones if you want to find a better one to suit her personality. And coffee mugs if she's not a drinker. Fast shipping too.
    https://www.etsy.com/shop/BLNDesigns?ref=s2-header-shopname§ion_id=18581739

    Which makes me also want to add that if she's not a drinker maybe a nice bag of coffee beans instead of wine.



  21. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: those are cute!! thank you!

    hope things are going okay with you!!

  22. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @endymion4: Thanks Nothing new. Still just waiting. Still barely there squinters that only I can see because I know it's there. My coordinator just said to let them know if I don't have my period by next Weds and they'll have me come in for bloods Thursday to see what's up.

  23. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: I mean...maybe we're not supposed to swear. But...meh.
    I am so jealous all. The. Time. of people who can just do it all naturally. And not even be afraid to do it. After this scare I'm getting my tubes tied as soon as it makes sense.

  24. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: i'm so sorry you're just in the holding pattern for now!! Hopefully there will be resolution one way or another soon so you can plan next steps!

  25. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @endymion4: Holding pattern over! Got my period this afternoon. Only a day or so later than originally expected. So I'll still have approx a June 28 transfer!

  26. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    Had my FET on the 25th. The test is scheduled for 6/5. I'm trying to stay calm and not overthink. But just curious. Anyone had any symptoms during the TWW? or had no symptoms and had a BFP?

    Time cannot go fast enough right now.

  27. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: congrats on your transfer. How many days old were your embryos? I got a faint BFP at 4dp5dt. Just sayin 😉
    I have had 4 pregnancies (one sticky) and I never had discernible symptoms before my BFP. Good luck!

    AFM, I'm on BCP until 6/5. 6/9 I go in for blood work and if all clear I start transfer meds. Still tentatively set for 6/28 if all goes well. SO HAPPY we didn't lose any time on that chemical.

  28. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @Honeydew: Ugh TWWs are the WORST! When I got pregnant with my DD I had implantation bleeding during the TWW but no other symptoms. For this most recent pregnancy (I'm 37 weeks currently) I had no symptoms whatsoever. Don't overthink it....just stay busy and stay cautiously optimistic. We'll all be rooting for you and hoping to hear some good news...but here to support you if not. Hugs!

  29. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    @sweetiepie It was a 5 day blast. I made a pact with my hubs that I wouldn't take the test until the actual test at the doc office. When I suspected I was pg with my son, we waited a week after my missed period to take the test. So we are sort of superstitious.

    @Mrs. Pajamas - Thank you so much.

  30. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: You have willpower of steel 💪 Good for you!

  31. yellowbeach

    nectarine / 2648 posts

    So I just hit "SEND" on an email to our RE to try for Baby #2 in Dec/Jan timeframe. I'm already nervous. We were lucky and got a BFP and had DD on our first transfer (1 embryo) last July. We were not so lucky and delivered at 32w3d due to me developing HELLP syndrome which close to killed my liver and required a 34 day NICU stay for DD. She's doing really well now, but I feel like I still have some PTSD (as weird as that sounds) from how scary everything was. I really was just waiting to have a stroke at one point during it all.

    Any of you wonderful ladies that went after #2, #3 or #4 have any advice to lend?

    I can definitely say that transferring more than one embryo is out of the question.

  32. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    @sweetiepie Thanks! I just got the blood draw pregnancy test this morning. It took every ounce, not to do a test at home. Wish us luck! :}

  33. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @Honeydew: ugh so just a few hours until you get results!!! Thinking of you today...

  34. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: Good luck! Do you feel one way or the other? Actually just noticed this was 4 hours ago so you may have results now!

    @yellowbeach: You are amazing! It took me 2 years to feel ready for #2. Granted, we didn't have anything frozen so I knew we'd be doing new rounds, and I was not looking forward to that.
    I don't think PTSD after your ordeal sounds weird at all. HELLP is terrifying! I had cholestasis which is also a liver issue in pregnancy, but it's not dangerous to the mom, only the baby. And that in and of itself was scary enough! My friend had HELLP and she seriously thought she was going to die.

    I don't have any advice because most days I still think I'm crazy for trying to have another. Except if you feel ready just go for it. My RE advised us to start banking embryos for #2 when my first was 6 months old. We're now comin up on a year of trying (once he turned 2) and I wish we had just done it sooner so I'd be closer to being out of the baby stage already. So if you're mentally ready go for it and don't look back.

  35. agold

    grapefruit / 4045 posts

    @yellowbeach: Wow! That's such an exciting email to send to the RE to get the ball rolling!! I wish I had some advice for you but I am only just now thinking about when to start IVF again for #2. How old is your baby right now? My IVF baby is 9.5 months. Do you have any frozen embryos left? I think its great you feel ready to get going with it again!

    @SweetiePie: Wow! Your RE suggested an egg retrieval at 6 months? I was almost still in a fog at 6 months post partum. So did you start trying on your own once your baby turned 2 and your baby is now 3? It sucks that we have to have this IVF process looming over our heads because its such a shitty process. I don't have any frozen embryos left either.

  36. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @agold: yeah, actually I did the math wrong, he was 8 months. Lol. Still way too early think about ttc, IMO. That's why I said hell to the naw when he suggested it. I just wasn't in that mindset.
    My issue is egg quality so he felt that the sooner we started retrieving eggs the better. Not that he wanted me to transfer anything that soon. He just wanted me to get some retrievals in, test them and keep them on ice till I was ready.
    I didn't listen, so I got the ball rolling for retrievals last July 19th when my son was almost 2 (he's 9/9). It's been 3 cycles and finally have 2 normal embryos. So I'm set for a transfer June 28, almost a year from my first appt.
    We can't try on our own because of my translocation. Womp womp.

  37. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas @Sweetiepie Just got a phone call with the results........ BFP! Whoo hoo! Beta on Wednesday.

  38. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @yellowbeach: super exciting! I was ready to try for #2 when DD was only 6 months. She was a super easy baby but I'm so glad we waited longer. We started TTC naturally (hahahahha) at one year but gave up after 3 months because we had several frozen embryos and were both anxious for #2. It took us several months but now our LOs will be 2 years 7 months apart and I'm super happy with that age spread. DD is potty trained, super communicative, and we are in a great place marriage-wise and settled in after a cross country move. It's all super personal but I was in the exact same boat as you--DD was the result of our first try....this one not so much so don't assume it'll be as easy the second time around. I hope it is for you, but just wanted to give a little realty check. Are your frozen embryos PGD-tested?

  39. yellowbeach

    nectarine / 2648 posts

    @SWEETIEPIE: My RE wants us to wait 1 year between pregnancies, so earliest transfer would be Feb 2018. I guess I feel I’m getting older and older and want to try sooner than later because of that. I’ll be 39 in 2 weeks. Is your friend on HB? I’d be interested to swap stories.

    @AGOLD: DD will be 4 months on 6/12. We were fortunate enough to send 8 (or maybe 9?) to the freezer, so hopefully no retrievals ever again.

    @HONEYDEW: Woohoo!!!!

    @Mrs. Pajamas: It’s funny you mention it – but I’m almost convinced it’s going to take 2-3 retrievals for a since we were so to get a this first time around. Perhaps that’s why I’m eager to get started…

  40. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: Just saw this. Congrats!!!!!

    @yellowbeach: My husband is also turning 39 soon and he's been the one really "ready" for a long time and he does say his age is a factor - not fertility wise but he doesn't want to be having kids much beyond 40. At 6 months PP he was bringing it up (that's where I was confused above - DH was 6 months and my RE was 8 months) and I was still in the "I want to stab you how can you say we should have another" stage. I.E. I was sure we were one and done for at least a year after my son was born. The adjustment was harder than I expected. Once I fully came around when he was 2yo my husband was overjoyed. He was OK with being done if I wanted that but his desire for another was strong.
    My friend is not on HB but if you want to private wall me your email I could put you in touch.

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