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  1. skiierchck99

    olive / 64 posts

    @SweetiePie: Awesome! So exciting! And thanks for the thoughts on PGS on frozens - I'll bring it up before my next cycle. HCG down to 15 today so it looks like I'll be able to on my next cycle.

  2. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @sweetiepie: damn girl that's amazing!!!!!!!!!!

    My best friend just started her first IVF cycle and is set to trigger tonight but her e2 is only at 790. She is freaking out but her doc still wants to move forward. She's got about 13 follicles which is great but from what I'm reading low e2 could mean no eggs or poor eggs in those follicles. Anyone else have similar experience or thoughts? I feel terrible for her. I was really hoping I'd be the only one of my close friends to have to battle this beast!

  3. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: woo hoo!!!!

  4. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: yeah that E2 is pretty low for 13 follicles. For me the rule of 150-250 per mature follicle has rang pretty true.

  5. skiierchck99

    olive / 64 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: @SweetiePie: My final e2 was only about 1500 for 20 mature follies, so about 75 per mature follicle. It's still a bit higher than your friend, but it's not totally off of the curve I don't think!

  6. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: is your friend doing PGD?

  7. PurplePumps

    GOLD / pomegranate / 3381 posts

    @SweetiePie: Wow! That's awesome! Did you do a totally different protocol this time? How long until you get the results back!

  8. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @PurplePumps: The only thing different was estrogen priming. It's totally crazy and I wish they'd known from the beginning but I guess that there's so much trial and error and just trying to figure out what everyone's body needs.
    ETA: we went back to antagonist protocol with estrogen priming

  9. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @SweetiePie: No unfortunately

  10. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    I'm losing my miiiinnnddddddd. Last 2 times we had PGD results by now and it took every ounce of restraint I have to not call my doc or the lab today. I'm trying to distract myself all day but I just can't stop thinking about this.

  11. skiierchck99

    olive / 64 posts

    @SweetiePie: Oof - I empathize! All the waiting is (maybe) the worst part of all this! I must have missed - is this a freeze-all cycle?

  12. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @skiierchck99: Yes, my only reason for doing ivf is for the PGD. I have a balanced translocation between two of my chromosomes which makes having a viable pregnancy on my own near impossible.

  13. skiierchck99

    olive / 64 posts

    @SweetiePie: Oh - it hadn't occurred to me that PGD requires a freeze all, but now that you say that I remember reading that because of the timing. Yes - I do remember why you needed to do a PGD. Hoping you find out tomorrow!

    Ironically, my RE (or nurse, really) has been much faster to call me now that I'm just trying to test out the HCG. Much less exciting!

  14. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @skiierchck99: Ohh yeah. They biopsy usually day 5 and then have to freeze them while you wait for results. I had the option to start prep for a transfer for next cycle but I decided not to. I think I want to wait a couple of months if we do have a normal. And I don't want to jinx anything. Worried about putting the cart before the horse.
    Hoping you can do another transfer soon! Any idea what the timing would be once your HCG is down?

  15. skiierchck99

    olive / 64 posts

    @SweetiePie: As soon as I start my next cycle. So, if my loss/bleeding counts as the start of my cycle, about 5 weeks, and then I think they said ~`14-19 days to transfer? I don't really know if I should expect a normal cycle though. Insurance already came through though, so I'm ready to go! Trying to enjoy the non-pregnant non-baby things I get to do until then : )

  16. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: How did your friends retrieval go? Did she have it this morning?

  17. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @SweetiePie: so nice of you to check in! It went pretty well! They got 13 eggs yesterday and today (day 2) she had 6 fertilized. I worked on convincing her to do pgd but we'll see....

    Did you get your results yet?

  18. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: yeah, that works out to about 130 or so of E2 per mature egg. Still low. It's not a science but I myself would be worried about the quality. But it's still early and maybe it will shock us!
    I also really try to promote PGD but I get that unless you have a known issue it's hard to justify the extra cost.
    Hope the best for her!

    No news yet. I'm really surprised and kinda pissed! Lol. But maybe the lab is backed up. I know the actual testing only takes 24-48 hours but if I wasn't first in line it could take longer. Man I hope it doesn't take the full 2 weeks. That would be torture. All week my phone was glued to me and each time it rang my heart stopped.

  19. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @SweetiePie: I can so relate. My results took 2 weeks and it was horrible. My friends re told her to expect 1-2 make it to freeze, which is why I told her to do pgd for sure, especially since she's paying out of pocket. It could save her from another retrieval. Plus this is baby #2 for her so she's not trying to bank a bunch. She just needs one! Ugh fingers crossed so hard. Her next report is tomorrow.

    @skiierchck99: I was able to get started pretty quickly with a cycle (fresh retrieval) after a loss a few years ago. My cycle was normal so here's hoping for you too...

  20. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    #*%@&$!!!!!!!
    We have 2 normals!

    A 3rd is inconclusive so they'll thaw and biopsy and test again. It's not likely that it will be normal but of course I have to know!

  21. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @SweetiePie: yay!!!!! That is SUCH exciting news!!! Congrats!

    Also I successfully convinced my friend to do PGD. Here's hoping she's as lucky as you.

    OMG how are you and DH feeling now that baby #2 is such a good possibility???

  22. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: He is ecstatic. Like he rarely gets visibly excited but he's already like "we need to transform the office!" Slow down buddy! A lot can still happen (or not happen).
    I am freaking out. Happy but also terrified. Terrified of it working and terrified of it not working. Also I didn't expect to have more than 1 so my mind is spinning. I really didn't want more than 2 kids but with my odds I feel like whatever I have is meant to be.

    I'm just in shock I guess!

  23. yellowbeach

    apricot / 290 posts

    @SweetiePie: so happy for you!

  24. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: fantastic news!!!

  25. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    anyone use a home doppler? if so, do you recommend a particular one?

  26. mrswin

    GOLD / nectarine / 2250 posts

    @SweetiePie: I'm lurking but I wanted to say congrats on the two normal!!!! I am so thrilled for you

  27. tequiero21

    honeydew / 7933 posts

    @SweetiePie: haven't really been keeping up w Hellobee but wanted to check in on u!!!! So exciting! Will u transfer one or both?! Gl on the third! ❤

  28. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @yellowbeach: @endymion4: @mrswin: @tequiero21: Thank you all so much The shock and fear has worn off and now I'm getting really excited at the possibility.
    Oh and I found out both are boys

    @tequiero21: So I seriously considered doing both because I don't want to do the baby stage more than one more time. Not that I really feel OK about twins either But I find the idea of just getting it done appealing. But my RE is really against it. He said my odds of both sticking are very high and he feels if I got pregnant with twins and something happened to one or both because of twin pregnancy difficulties I'd be kicking myself. So he said better to transfer 1, hope it sticks and decide later what to do with the other. Or if it doesn't stick then I have another shot.
    I really don't want to do baby stage 2 more times BUT if its meant to be it'll be. My husband told me to take a deep breath and lets (hopefully) get through one healthy pregnancy and birth and then decide what to do. As you know we live in NYC and fortunately we have a 3 bedroom apt but beyond 2 kids I have no idea what we'd do! But again, cart before the horse!

    I will fall on the floor dead if the 3rd is normal. Haha. I won't know what to do. Probably put at least one embryo up for adoption.

  29. Honeydew

    kiwi / 539 posts

    So where did we leave it off the last time. We decided to ask our insurance to see if they will allow us to batch before PGS testing. It took them a whole month to give us a denial.

    We sent in the 2 frosties to be tested and we have 1 normal 3AA embie.

    This is the farthest we've gone. So what do I expect with a FET? any advice to help prep the womb for a sticky transfer?

  30. agold

    nectarine / 2754 posts

    @Honeydew: That's great news you have one normal embryo to transfer! I did a FET last summer. I googled "anti inflammatory diets" and tried my best to eat a good clean healthy diet for the month or two leading up to the FET, and do some exercise. Otherwise, I just prayed and relaxed. I don't know that there is anything else to do, aside from acupuncture if you are into that sort of stuff. Your doctor may suggest some stuff, too. Good luck! When is your FET scheduled to occur?

  31. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @Honeydew: I'm so happy for you that you'll get to do an FET!! Like @agold, I tried to reduce things that are generally upsetting/inflammatory to my system--i ended up reducing gluten, dairy, and sugar (on previous transfers I did complete elimination and ended up with 2 negatives and a m/c, so this time I tried just eating less of them). Other things that people generally recommend during FET are: Eating pineapple core the day of and 5 days after (I didn't do this b/c I'm allergic), eating a couple of brazil nuts each day, and eating warming foods in the days following transfer (bone broth, soups, pho, etc). Along with the warming foods, people recommend socks to keep the feet warm, as some acupuncturists say it helps to keep the womb warm. Who knows if any of this actually helps! When will you transfer?

  32. psw27

    grapefruit / 4503 posts

    @SweetiePie: lurking to say congrats!! So exciting!

  33. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @psw27: thanks lady

  34. Honeydew

    kiwi / 539 posts

    @agold and @endymion4 Thank you so much! I'm not sure yet about the date of the transfer. I may find out more today.

    I'm just glad to have had the month "off" while we were sorting out the insurance and testing.

  35. agold

    nectarine / 2754 posts

    @Honeydew: @endymion4: I forgot about the "nothing cold" rule. I did follow that one, too. So don't eat a bowl of ice cream after your FET. And no ice water. Also, I did a couple of days of full bed rest. I would do that again and think its a good idea even though RE's all have different opinions on that.

  36. bloved

    clementine / 988 posts

    @Honeydew: if you look on Pinterest there are lots of great diet lists for post transfer foods. On my last successful transfer I stuck to it and feel like it might have made a difference since I had two failures prior. I don't remember everything, but I do remember that in addition to no cold foods, you should also have "good" fats like avacado and certain types of nuts. I remember I ate at least 1 avocado each day!

    I also stuck with keeping your feet warm. There is some tcm thinking that cold feet translates to a cold, inhospitable womb so keep on socks at all times.

    Good luck!!

  37. Mrs. Pickle

    blogger / wonderful cherry / 21403 posts

    @Honeydew: I didn't do anything different except cut caffeine and alcohol after transfer. A lot of women in my embryo donation group drink pomogranate juice to help build their linings. When I was going through FETs with my own embryos my local RE had me cut carbs and sugar during my cycle. That was hard!

  38. Winnie13

    kiwi / 501 posts

    @SweetiePie: So excited for you!! I've been keeping up with your journey, just been MIA! That is great news!! When will you do your transfer???

  39. SweetiePie

    GOLD / pomelo / 5770 posts

    @Winnie13: hi! Thanks for the nice words

    So 2 things - just heard that the third embryo is no good. It has my unbalanced translocation.
    But that was to be expected.

    The 2 good embryos though are ready to rock. 5AB and 6CD.
    Believe it or not I know very little about grading since I've never had multiple embryos. But he said 5AB looks very nice so that's what we'll go with first.

    Trying to get a transfer in on my next cycle. CD1 should be around May 17 which is actually the day I go away on a 4 day trip. So I'm hoping he'll let me start transfer meds while I'm away and just check me out when I get back. They close down 6/10-7/10 so otherwise we're looking at August, most likely.

    I'm just thrilled that a transfer is even being discussed and having my own body for the summer doesn't sound awful.

  40. Mrs. Pajamas

    apricot / 439 posts

    @Honeydew: I'll go against everyone else and honestly say I did very little post-transfer except relax and not lift anything heavy. I didn't change my diet before or after. Actually acupuncture was the one "extra" thing I did post-transfer for both of my pregnancies so I would highly recommend that.

    @Sweetiepie: I wouldn't worry too much about grading....in my experience they mean very little. I had embryos with high grades like yours (but not PGD tested) and they resulted in BFNs. Regardless though this is so exciting!!!! Keep us posted on when they give you the go ahead on a transfer date!

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