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TTC After Loss Part II

  1. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: yes I've wondered the same about announcements. I think if it ever does get easier it will be a loooong time.

  2. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    How is everyone doing?

    I went in today to get my karotype testing done and my husband will go tomorrow so hopefully we get those results soon. All my other blood work came back normal... no clotting issues & no thyroid issues.
    I'll have a HSG after my cycle starts. I'm also thinking about asking them to do cycle day 3 testing since I haven't had that done in over a year.

    I'm just really tired of trying to get pregnant. It's so exhausting being on this roller coaster every month for nothing. Part of me is hoping something comes back abnormal on one of these tests that way at least I know why things have been so difficult.

    eta: I really don't want the chromosomal analysis to come back abnormal because that would be the end of the road for us.

  3. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    I think I've stopped bleeding from my loss (sorry if that's graphic). I have another doctor's appointment this week to check my HCG levels and make sure they're going down. I'm dreading having to wait a cycle because lord knows how long that will take... I'm on the fence about switching insurance companies in case I need IF coverage. And just feeling kinda crappy as all of my pregnant friends due around the same time as me seem to have forgotten me. Apparently "I'm thinking of you" only means thinking and not talking to. So it's just kinda shitty how forgotten I feel.

  4. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @LindsayInNY: feeling alone is one of the hardest parts I think. Even dh really forgot pretty quickly and it never meant much to him. I just went past my due date and I was the only one (except this board!) who cared. It sucks.

    There’s probably no reason to wait a cycle. Did you have a specific reason given? Often it’s just to make their lives easy with dating if you get pregnant again which is bs to me. But my ob didn’t tell me to wait this time and I ovulated about 4 weeks after my d&c so we gave it a go. I was still getting faint positives from leftover hcg until my next cycle though.

    Hugs I found the month after the loss really hard.

  5. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @LindsayInNY: Hugs The loneliness is really hard. Honestly if it weren't for this board I would be lost.

    I do agree with bhbee about not waiting. My OB told me there was no reason to wait other than dating purposes, but since I track ovulation that wouldn't be an issue.

  6. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @LindsayInNY: Thanks for updating us-you’re in my thoughts constantly. I echo the others in not waiting (unless your doctor has specifically told you to wait). I’m in the middle of my first ovulatory cycle post-loss and am so glad to be actively TTC. While I know I likely won’t get pregnant, it feels productive to actually be working towards conceiving.

    @mrskansas: Sorry you have tons of testing and no answers
    @bhbee: How are you? Any testing yet?

    I’m early in the TWW and already resigned that this isn’t the cycle. I have a long way to go but just feel it. Next cycle’s peak fertility will be when we’re traveling for Thanksgiving, sigh, so already worried about the logistics of that.

  7. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @bhbee: I told DH yesterday that every Monday, I think "I would be X weeks today." I know (hope?) I won't think it forever but right now it's a perpetual memory. The OB just said to wait a cycle? I'm assuming it's because they like to use LMP as a benchmark going forward? But honestly, if I can calculate when I O, that should be good enough... (I wrote this before reading the entire comment LOL). I go in tomorrow to check my HCG levels again - I didn't even think about the fact they could still be showing up on a HPT. UGH.

  8. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: Travelling logistics are always tough. We got pregnant this last time while on vacation with family members in an old, thin-walled house. I basically wrote off the cycle as a wash.

  9. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @LindsayInNY: that reminds me - don’t forget if you still have hcg that will set off an opk too. So it’s a little hard to trust opks until your hcg is down to zero. I was able to tell ovulation was coming though because of changes to cm and also to just how I felt better overall with my hormones back closer to normal.

  10. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: big ol’ bfn today. I was sad for a couple hours but now I’m feeling ok and wondering if I am truly getting to the place where I’m done trying. I need to sit on it a while but maybe ...

  11. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @LindsayInNY: My HCG fell really quickly initially, but the last 100 or so took AGES to completely go away. My OB said it can take a while for the HCG to completely leave your system and he was right. I had lines on cheapie HPTs for ages. I ultimately had to stop testing because it was bumming me out, and then a few days later I got a period. It was a total of 24 days from the m/c to the HCG fully leaving, and I know others have had to wait way longer. I even had EWCM about 2 weeks after the m/c but, with HCG still in my system it definitely wasn't from ovulation. It sucks. I'm so sorry.

    @bhbee: I'm so sorry you are feeling this way. How crappy that you can't make that decision for yourselves, but have to be resigned to it.

  12. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @bhbee: I’m sorry for the bfn. Wishing you peace and comfort as you face choices.

  13. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    ... And another pregnancy announcement at work. I hope this eventually starts to get easier because I'm feeling pretty low right now.

  14. skinnycow

    pear / 1728 posts

    Hi everyone - I'm not TTC for awhile but I just found out about my loss yesterday and am looking for support. I hope you don't mind me joining in - I'll follow along with those of you that are currently trying.

    Date of loss: Found out yesterday at a prenatal appointment - I was supposed to be 9 weeks but baby stopped growing around 7 weeks and had no hearbeat. I'm scheduled for a D&C tomorrow afternoon.

    How long are you waiting to TTC again: Not until the summer due to events out of our control. If it was up to me we would be TTC as soon as possible.

    Any kids: I have a 19 month old daughter.

    How are you feeling? Really, really terrible but I guess that's to be expected since I just found out yesterday. I'm at work today and keep having to get up from my desk so people don't see me crying... I'm not typically an emotional person so this is all throwing me for a loop. I know MCs are so common but I naively thought it wouldn't happen to me because my pregnancy with DD was so easy and I'm fairly young.

    For those of you who have had D&Cs - how was your physical recovery? I'm planning to go back to work on Monday so I'll be able to rest Fri-Sun. Mentally I'm sure I won't be ready, but unfortunately this is a really bad time for me to take multiple days off work.

  15. Raspberry

    kiwi / 598 posts

    @skinnycow: I haven’t had a D&C but just wanted to say how sorry I am. This club isn’t ever looking for new members but we are glad to have you.

    I found being at work more helpful than not in that it was a distraction although coworkers are constantly asking when I am having another one - that part sucks in this process. I hope your coworkers are less nosy than mine! And hope you can find support through other people as well.

  16. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @skinnycow: I'm sorry for your loss. It's so tough.

  17. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @skinnycow: so sorry for you to join us here. Even though none of us want to be here, I think this board has offered a lot of comfort. I know it has for me.

  18. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @skinnycow: I’m so sorry you had to join this club but you’re so welcome to come here and talk/vent/anything!
    My physical d&c recovery was no big deal. I had it Friday lunchtime and we had a movie afternoon with pizza. Saturday I spent the day walking around at the Thomas the train ride/event and it was fine. Emotional/hormonal was a whole different ballgame and I really struggled the first month after. Come here when you need a virtual hug

  19. skinnycow

    pear / 1728 posts

    @Raspberry: Thank you. Yeah, I came in to work today for that reason. It's nice to have a distraction - I get emotional when I'm just sitting around thinking.

    @mrskansas: Thanks!

    @MrsJBeeG: It does suck but I'm glad there is somewhere to go for support.

    @bhbee: Thank you for the info! I'm hoping I'll feel up to getting out and about with my daughter this weekend.

    Thanks everyone for your welcomes - I'm sorry you all have had losses also

  20. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @skinnycow: I'm so, so sorry you're in this group and are still going through the process. Please take care of yourself physically and mentally.

  21. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @skinnycow: I'm so sorry for your loss

    I had a D&E Friday afternoon and was completely fine to go to work the next Monday. If you can, I'd try to plan a quiet weekend to recover. The day after my D&E, I ended up going for a (sort of) longish walk because it was a rare gorgeous day in the middle of winter, good for my mental health but I started really cramping. Not a big deal, I just called a lyft rather than walking the mile back home, but I think it is good if possible to try to take it easy for a couple of days. That was really the only discomfort that I felt.

    I also got anemic afterwards, which made me super tired. If you're prone to that at all, you might consider asking your doctor about iron supplements.

    The hormone dropped really sucked, but things got much better once I had my first post-loss period. I was still getting positive hpts after my first period, though, so I think my levels were in part just slow to drop.

    Sending lots of healing thoughts...

  22. Dr. Pepper

    apricot / 461 posts

    @skinnycow: No! I'm so sorry. I had a D&C for a blighted ovum 2 years ago. I think it was on a Wednesday. I felt fine afterwords. I didn't start bleeding until Saturday (right in the middle of my husband grandma's funeral- she died the morning we were having the D&C). It was horrible. The next morning I was hoping on a plane to visit NYC with my mom. TONS of bleeding. To the point we were worried for a while we were going to have to find an ER in NYC. But the REALLY heavy bleeding and horrible cramping only lasted for 3 days. Then it was all better (physically).

    I've been hiding from hellobee since I made my decision 10 days ago to try the Cytotec in hopes that I just had a missed miscarriage and not an ectopic. I had another hCG on Monday and the levels had continued to rise from 1500s on 10/19 to 2500s on 10/30. Today, the ultrasound still saw nothing. They DO NOT see an ectopic. But I am going to the EOD after work today for methotrexate.

  23. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @mrskansas: That's me but with local mom friends, all had #2 or are pregnant with #2 already.

  24. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @skinnycow: Sending you the biggest hugs. I just went through that - was suppose to be 11 weeks, baby stopped growing at 8 weeks. I found out just over 2 weeks ago. I went to work the day after I found out too, thinking it would be a good distraction, and it sucked. There was a lot of crying the first week. Do you *have* to have a D&C? Can you wait it out? I was just like you... I thought there's no way this could happen to me. I had IF with my daughter so clearly everything will be perfect now. Nope. Wall me if you want to email, text, gchat, whatever. This is so recent for me but know you're not alone at all.

  25. skinnycow

    pear / 1728 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: Thank you!

    @periwinklebee: Thanks for the heads up - I do tend to run anemic (especially during pregnancy). I was on a prescription prenatal with extra iron this pregnancy so hopefully it won't be an issue.

    @Dr. Pepper: Thanks for sharing your experience - I'm sorry for what you've been going through as well

    @LindsayInNY: Thank you. I'm so sorry for your loss also. My OB gave me an option between waiting it out, inducing miscarriage via medication, and the D&C. I'm not particularly thrilled with having a medical procedure done but the idea of waiting it out and possibly miscarrying at work terrifies me.

  26. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I’m sorry this process has been so difficult.

  27. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @skinnycow: I was in the same boat with options, except it was a vacuum procedure and not a D&C. As "luck" would have it, I started bleeding on my own and took Cytotec to help things along. Is that still an option? I was home the day I took it and it started to work within maybe 2 hours?

  28. skinnycow

    pear / 1728 posts

    I had my D&C today and it was quick and easy. No pain at all so far. I was semi-questioning if it was the right decision but I'm glad I did it. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences.

    One of my nurses said a few insensitive things, though. The worst was "It's okay. You can try again. You're young." Thanks lady...

  29. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @skinnycow: So glad your procedure is over and hope you begin to heal very soon. Sorry for the insensitivity of the nurses....I went to the ER during my miscarriage and my nurse was awful, too. The doctor was sensitive but the nurse was not good. Ugh.

  30. skinnycow

    pear / 1728 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: Yeah my OB was wonderful but I guess the nurses don't know what to say in those situations since they probably don't deal with the procedure constantly.

  31. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @skinnycow: They're so dumb sometimes. I was at the OB this week and after waiting far too long because of a scheduling issue, commented to the nurse that I was over being around pregnant people (why don't they have separate waiting rooms?!). She then proceeded to ask when my last period was. Seriously lady? Read my chart, find out why I'm even there. I wish they could put little stickers or codes on people's charts. I also fought with the front desk to NOT pee in a cup. Crazy.

  32. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @LindsayInNY: Sorry you dealt with that . When I went for a consult to talk through the m/c with my OB (at what would have been my 8 week HB appointment-sigh), his N/P made a point of calling to tell me she changed the appointment code so that no one would dare ask if I was pregnant or treat me that way. It was a huge relief, and made the appointment way more bearable. Except for the waiting room of pregnant women🙄.

  33. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    11 dpo and no real signs of pregnancy for this cycle. While I know I could be still in the game because in my only pregnancy I got a bfn today and a bfp on 13 dpo, I’m guessing I’ll be visited by AF on Monday.

    Kind of bummed since this is cycle 5 post-loss. I did realize that by focusing on what I have and on my goal of losing 30 pounds by springtime (I’m down 8 lbs in 3 weeks and step on the scale today to see this weeks progress - hopefully adding to that number 😃) I’ve really not been obsessively watcing for symptoms this tww. Which is helping me tremendously this tww. And since I plan to keep trying at least until the year mark - that’s probably good. But makes me sad because I don’t feel the excitement and hope and wonder that I felt in the beginning of ttc.

    Thanks for “listening”. I’ve said it before and heard many of you say it here - I just don’t know what I’d do without all of you sweet ladies - I’ve had struggles in life but this ttc post-loss is so hard and I could not do it alone.

    Thank you all so very much.

  34. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: it’s so hard and I’m glad you are doing some things to help yourself feel good! But I’m sorry for the bfn. I do think that numbness is both a blessing and a curse, but I promise when you get the bfp and get past the early stages you will feel the excitement again

  35. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: I'm sorry about the bfn

    I think for many people, excitement and wonder is different after loss. Rather than being a rush that happens with a bfp, I think it's more like a gradual realization at first, and an enormous sense of gratefulness and wonder when things that went wrong in past pregnancies/TTC finally start going right....you shouldn't feel bad at all if it feels most natural to feel numb now, it sucks but it won't be a forever feeling

  36. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: sorry for the BFN. Thinking of you ❤

  37. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @periwinklebee: @ChiCalGoBee: @bhbee: thank you.

    I appreciate your thoughts. And it helps to hear that while I do feel a bit numb and disconnected from this tww - it probably doesn’t translate to a pregnancy - assuming I get pregnant and progress fine on a second one.

  38. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: Thinking of you and sending so much sticky baby dust.

    Obviously none of us would ever want to go through loss, but one thing I have appreciated (being pregnant after a couple of losses), is that I think it makes the good moments of pregnancy really, really good. Things I might have otherwise taken for granted, I don't. Like having a normal NT and anatomy scan was the best, best thing ever, and my husband and I both made the time to leave work a little early those days and celebrate and really feel it fully, because we knew - very personally knew - that a good ultrasound is not a forgone conclusion. Or even little things, like feeling the baby move, I try to stop and enjoy it rather than thinking "I'm busy, he'll kick again later", because I know that's not guaranteed; for some babies, our time with them is so short, but still something to be treasured.

    I'm sure you will have a healthy pregnancy For us it took a little under a year - a lot less than some others on this board - and still I believed it would never happen and sometimes still worry that it's a dream that I'll wake up not pregnant from. We did a ton of testing and I think most likely nothing was wrong, it just takes some of us longer. Thinking of you and hoping your luck turns soon

  39. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    Well, had my talk with dh about being done trying and it went well although did not really clear up what to do next! During and after the loss, through all our failed ttc since, he’s always seemed totally detached and only ever said things like “how will we ever handle a third”. So I figured the second I said I was feeling done he would be out. But he surprised me and said let’s talk about it. And I think he is more into continuing than I am!

    He said over time since the loss he’s gotten more into the idea of how special it would be to have another baby. He’s definitely not ready to be totally done yet. But I think we are on the same page that it may not happen naturally, and we’re not willing to go further with treatments this time. We are both so so thankful for the children we have, and honestly the more I think about it the more miraculous it seems that we ever had my son at all.
    So what next - that’s where it’s not clear. We’ve agreed to try this month and I’ll also talk to my ob and get her perspective on things at my annual. Him wanting it does make me want to continue a little longer. But I feel pretty sure that my second RE was right - we just don’t make many good embryos, and probably fewer the older I get. Since we won’t do ivf this time, that leaves us playing a numbers game likely not in our favor. But of course, there’s always a chance. And maybe I can keep up my own detached attitude from this past month.

  40. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: I was thinking about you this weekend and your talk with your DH. I'm so glad it went well, even if it didn't give new clarity. I know it sucks playing the waiting game, but I at least definitely have hope that you will have a viable embryo in time if you decide to keep going on the TTC route I know TTC doesn't always end in a baby, even for people who try indefinitely, but I think the fact that you do have two beautiful LOs is a good sign, even if you're a bit older this time. How long did it take you for your LOs?

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