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TTC After Loss Part II

  1. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I’m sorry it’s not straightforward. Fingers crossed it’s not ectopic.

  2. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I'm so sorry, I know this must just add insult to injury. With my early loss we had a somewhat similar experience with betas flattening out but not falling for awhile, but thankfully they did eventually fall and we avoided further interventions. I hope that things will work out similarly. Sending lots of for healing...

  3. Dr. Pepper

    apricot / 416 posts

    Update: The ultrasound and hCG did not clarify anything this morning, but outcomes are looking better?

    Lets recap:
    9/28- 52.5
    10/2- 144 (4 days, kinda low rise, but looks good)
    10/4- 127 (went down - looks like a miscarriage)
    10/6- 150 (went up- that is strange, probably an ectopic)
    10/9- 320 (went appropriately?????)

    US did NOT show evidence of ectopic pregnancy. There was an intrauterine gestational sac corresponding to 5w4d (I'm 5w5d- so right on)- no fetal pole or yolk sac.

    That is all the doctor told me. Of course, I went to medical records and got a copy of my ultrasound report. It notes that I had a corpus luteum on both ovaries. Meaning they both released eggs. Meaning I could have been pregnant with twins and lost one of them- which would explain the rise, dip, rise pattern of my hCG.

    Odd thing is that on Thursday of last week I asked my husband if I was crazy for hoping that maybe (even though the hCG had gone down) I was still pregnant and maybe there had been 2 and now there was just 1. Crazy.

    Plan- hCG on Thursday this week. If normal rise, then ultrasound on next Thursday.

  4. Dr. Pepper

    apricot / 416 posts

    Additionally, I'm 26 DPO and my hCG is only 320. Which is crazy low, but according to beta base, it is possible.

    They show 6 successful pregnancies (out of 1322) from hCG 149-405 at 26 DPO

  5. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I'm sorry for the ongoing limbo, but agree that a vanishing twin could do weird things to hcg. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Do you remember what your hcg was from your previous LOs? Mine was on the high side with this pregnancy and my later first tri loss - and on the low end of beta base with my earlier loss - so I think the lower hcg would be a red flag for me personally, but I know there are various bees here who always have low HCG and it's just how their body does pregnancy.

  6. Dr. Pepper

    apricot / 416 posts

    @periwinklebee: Mine are usually all over the place. We have tracked them for 5 pregnancies now. Several have been low, several have been higher. Some have doubled every 48 hours. Some didn't double but every 72 hours. I think my second son was low and slow to double. I think my first son was higher and double more normally. My body is crazy and must hate me and like torturing me.

  7. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I'm sorry that the hcg is always all over the place. The fact that it was low and slow to double with your second as well seems promising!

  8. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: Thinking of you

  9. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    My doctor prescribed Flagyl and amoxicillin in case I have a uterine infection. She said that it can't hurt to take it while I wait for more testing so I started that yesterday.
    I also started taking CoQ10 (egg/cell health) and fish oil (reduces inflammation) per her recommendation. If anyone is interested in those supplements I can share what she recommended!

    I'm like CD 7 or something and this already feels like the longest cycle ever. My hormones are really out of whack this month.

    eta: She also said that I should continue taking myo-inositol and Fertile CM. I don't if I mentioned that I started Fertile CM last month but it made a HUGE difference! I had been struggling with scant CM since I stopped Femara back in May and it could be coincidence but the cycle I started it I finally had awesome EWCM again.

  10. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @mrskansas: I’m always up to hear about supplements I take prenatal dha is the fish oil different? How much of everything did she recommend?

    I’m sorry you feel out of whack though. I hate nothing more than feeling prisoner to my hormones.

  11. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @bhbee: She said the omega 3s in the fish oil are important. I don't know if a prenatal with dha is the same? I'll have to look that up. But I've been taking two capsules of fish oil per day and two capsules of the CoQ10 (200mg).

    She also said that the FertileCM is mostly Vitamin C which is vital for ewcm and a healthy endometrium. I guess it's one of the most studied supplements in relation to fertility.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CAZAU62/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055OUOQQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GQSMOE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  12. Raspberry

    apricot / 370 posts

    @mrskansas: Thanks for the tidbit about Vitamin C. That's helpful.

  13. ChiCalGoBee

    GOLD / pear / 1730 posts

    Hi ladies. I've been holding off joining for a bit, but hoping to find some commiseration, and to be able to support you all, too.

    Date of loss: 9/20/17, I was 6.5 weeks. Baby measured a week behind on an u/s so the doctor was hopeful it would catch up, but it did not. I had a natural m/c.

    How long are you waiting to TTC again: Not waiting

    Any kids: A son who is almost 3

    How are you feeling? Physically I'm a bit all over the place. The initial HCG dropoff was rapid but I'm still getting faint positives on HPTs:-(. I also deal with vertigo that seems to be hormonally related, and it's been bad yesterday and today. My doctor said there's no medical reason to wait, but my body hasn't kicked into gear yet so I guess we're being forced to wait a bit. Emotionally I'm better each day. I'd really love to be on our way to a rainbow soon, but I'm trying to be patient.

    Looking forward to getting to know you all.

  14. theotherstark

    GOLD / nectarine / 2917 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee:

  15. theotherstark

    GOLD / nectarine / 2917 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: wow, what a roller coaster! The vanishing twin could certainly explain the drop. Keeping my fingers crossed that the little one in there is sticky, and your hcg continues to rise!

  16. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: hugs

  17. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @mrskansas: do you have weird/different opks on the myo inositol? Last cycle too, I got some dark but not quite positive way before a true positive. Getting the same yesterday and today and wondering if it’s the meds because I doubt I’m going to ovulate tomorrow (the only time I would usually see anything that dark).

  18. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @bhbee: No I haven't noticed a different pattern on my OPKs.
    What cycle day are you?

  19. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @mrskansas: well I’m cd6 after 13 days of bc. So who knows? But last time I got a positive opk on cd8 after bc so it’s not crazy. Dh has been on a trip but gets in tonight so I guess we’ll cover either way. Last time my opks kind of led me on so I’m trying to stay calm until a true positive.

  20. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @bhbee: Ugh, sorry for the weird opks, that would drive me crazy... I hope though that you're feeling better now that the birth control is done, thinking of you this month.

    @mrskansas: Is this the different doctor within the RE practice you've been using? Sounds like he or she is really on top of things!

    @ChiCalGoBee: I'm so sorry

  21. ChiCalGoBee

    GOLD / pear / 1730 posts

    @theotherstark: @bhbee: @periwinklebee: Thank you

    @Dr. Pepper: Hoping for you!@bhbee: That sounds so confusing!

  22. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @periwinklebee: It's actually just my regular OB! I called the nurse to ask about testing for uterine infections and my doctor called me back and she gave me all that info.
    She did a residency with the fertility clinic in town so I definitely trust her!

  23. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: I'm so sorry for your loss

  24. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @bhbee: I have a love/hate relationship with OPKs. Hopefully you get a clear positive soon and can get your BD on!

  25. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @mrskansas: Sounds like an awesome ob!

  26. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @periwinklebee: thanks I am feeling tons better post bc! If I can just stay relaxed through ovulation now

    I was supposed to have my annual this month but pushed it off. A while back I thought I would ask for an iud then. Now I’m back to hoping I’ll be pregnant before I go ...

  27. Dr. Pepper

    apricot / 416 posts

    Update: Level today was 598. Up from 320 on Monday. Which is doubling time of 80 hours. Today is 29 DPO, so 598 is crazy low. But according to beta base- still possible for a successful pregnancy.

    Current plan: redo lab again on Monday. Lab again Thursday and an ultrasound then an appointment with my doctor.

    Praying for a positive outcome with all this. I would hate for it to be this drawn out- hope/no hope/hope again- and still have a poor outcome.

  28. mrskansas

    GOLD / nectarine / 2534 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: I'm sorry you're going through so much uncertainty. Hopefully this isn't drawn out for too long.
    Hang in there

  29. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: fx and good thoughts for you

  30. crazydoglady

    grape / 86 posts

    @bhbee: Sorry for lurking but I took myo-inositol last cycle and I ended up getting a positive opk on cd 10 which is pretty early for me. My Dr thinks it made me O an immature egg, so I stopped this month. I'm taking coq10, baby aspirin, vitamin e, folate, and vitamin c...I hope that does something...

  31. MrsJBeeG

    cherry / 174 posts

    @Dr. Pepper: fingers and toes crossed for you.

  32. MrsJBeeG

    cherry / 174 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: I’m so so sorry for your loss.

  33. crazydoglady

    grape / 86 posts

  34. ChiCalGoBee

    GOLD / pear / 1730 posts

    @mrskansas:@MrsJBeeG: Thank you
    @Dr. Pepper: So hopeful for you!

    @mrskansas: I hear you on the out-of-whack hormones. Mine are, too.

    Reached CD 1 today, 3.5 weeks after the miscarriage. I'm very hopeful I will ovulate this cycle, but who knows.

  35. MrsJBeeG

    cherry / 174 posts

    Hi ladies. Hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected. I’m focusing on mental and physical health this cycle and not on ttc (as much).

    I just wanted to share that DH and I just had some BD that was unrelated to TTC and it felt so nice. I didn’t realize how we were more focusing on the BD to TTC and how much pressure that is. It felt so nice to not be thinking about TTC.

    My hats off to everyone who has been at this way longer than me - you have my admiration because until now I had no idea how hard it is.

  36. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: cd1 is a wonderful thing in all the mess of loss - I hope it gives you some peace! And as normal a cycle as possible

    @MrsJBeeG: yay for no pressure and focusing on yourself! I was doing well at that for a while ...

    I am trying to stay sane with my crazy opks and so far so good. I think I’m a ways out from ovulating and I’ve convinced myself not to burn out on bd this cycle. We’re both super stressed and busy with non-ttc things this month so even getting the minimum done might be a stretch.

  37. ChiCalGoBee

    GOLD / pear / 1730 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: Mental and physical health are *so* important. As is BD just to enjoy it! I hope your self-care helps lead you towards your BFP this month.
    @bhbee: I've never been so happy to see my period! All the pre-period symptoms I usually have were there but stronger than usual. I also know what you mean about BD burnout. My husband hates that this process makes him feel like a stud horse so I try not to be too aggressive about the schedule, but after the loss I'm even more anxious to get the show on the road.

    This is so dumb, but I only have two more cycles that would give me a baby born in time to be in high school at the same time as my older child. I know, dumb, and it doesn't REALLY matter, but....ugh. Another reminder of how much the loss of the May baby sucks. Thinking of you all.

  38. bhbee

    nectarine / 2900 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: I’m with you on the timing, we must have the same school cutoff. I really didn’t want them 4 years apart in school, and I’m going to seriously reassess if we pass that point. It seems like so long ago I was even pregnant this time

  39. periwinklebee

    GOLD / nectarine / 2095 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: I think non-TTC intimacy is one of the really nice silver linings of TTC, especially if you've been at TTC for awhile, because at least for me I just appreciated more how nice it is to just do it for enjoyment. Also, at some point you definitely will get pregnant , and I know everyone is different but there's a chance that won't be so good for intimacy either, so really worth savoring it while you can...

    @bhbee: Thinking of you and hoping that o comes soon (assuming that works for your schedule, of course!)

  40. ChiCalGoBee

    GOLD / pear / 1730 posts

    @bhbee: Yep, September 1. Although honestly, as a former kindergarten teacher, I'd probably hold a kid born in the fall back to the following year anyway even if the deadline was later. I know there is nothing I can do but hope that we get a healthy baby on the way sooner rather than later. Thinking of you.

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