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@periwinklebee: Well your response confirmed what I was thinking!
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@mrskansas: I'd probably skip it. It only makes the symptom spotting worse!!
I know the urge to do anything you possibly can though ... I have to fight it off all the time.
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@mrskansas: my progesterone was low when my doctor said I was going to miscarry. I asked him about low progesterone and whether I should be proactive about it in the future. He discussed the research just like periwinklebee's RE and my takeaway was don't use it unless you have low progesterone or are doing IVF.
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@bhbee: I'm starting to feel some of that desperation and I hate it. My husband keeps reminding me that I had our daughter without any help from medication so there's no reason why I can't do it again. I know he's right but my anxiety starts to creep in and then I want to go crazy with Lovenox, progesterone and everything else that is supposed to help. Haha.
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@MrsJBeeG: Yep that has always been my understanding as well. I do think that an unhealthy pregnancy = low progesterone, not the other way around.
How are you holding up?
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@mrskansas: I'm doing well. Really had some struggling moments over the last few months. I am just starting a new tww - although I'm still dragging DH to bed in case the surge is still occurring since I got a positive OPK after a negative after a series of positives.
I do need to vent a second. Honestly, my MIL was so sweet - she knows we are trying after I told her about our loss (after the fact) - but today said she was looking at baby clothes hoping to buy some for our baby. She doesn't have grandkids so I cringed when reading her message. I wanted to text in capital letters "I'm trying!" But decided that wouldn't be nice. Needless to say it wasn't the greatest moment for me.
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@MrsJBeeG: Confusing OPKs suck and constant BD is exhausting. I hope it works out for you though. Maybe we'll end up on the same due date board
I think your MIL probably meant well but I would have been upset by it too. It's difficult for people who have never struggled with miscarriages or infertility to know what to say or how to say it. I've dealt with a lot of hurtful comments from my own mom lately so I get it
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@mrskansas: she really is a sweetheart. I adore her. My mom died many years ago so I'm happy my MIL and I have a good relationship as I do talk to her about some things I would have asked my own mom. But it was a hard moment.
Sorry you have to hear those things too. I just wish people were more thoughtful at times. I get strangers say things as they don't know. But a mom? Or MIL? Guess it just happens sometimes.
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@mrskansas: and I should say I'd love to be on a due date board with you and some of these other wonderful ladies!
I hope it happens for all of us soon.
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@MrsJBeeG: My mom told me a few weeks ago that a lot of people have told her how lonely it is to be an only child and that they really hope my husband and I have more kids.
She knows about my miscarriages and fertility treatments so I was so shocked and upset that she would tell me that. Even if I was only having one child by choice, that's still not something you say. I was/am upset by her comments and why she wouldn't think to be more sensitive after she knows how difficult this has been on me. -
@mrskansas: i would be so upset if I were you about that kind of comment when she knows what you've been through. So sorry.
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@MrsJBeeG: @mrskansas: I've been wondering if I was too overly sensitive, but sadly I'm glad that it's just not me. My mother has been sending me daily links on how to get pregnant faster, makes comments about when I have a baby, or looks at baby clothes for 'when my time comes.' I'm sure she means well with her over optimism but it feels like a sting every time. I personally thought I was just being emotional post loss, I figured she's been in my shoes she would know.... I don't knows why I'm rambling.. but basically I know how you ladies feel....
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@chypmunk: I'm sorry, how frustrating that must be
You are definitely not alone in how you feel and I don't think you're being too sensitive.
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@chypmunk: I don't think you're being overly sensitive at all. It's so hard at times dealing. I thought I was okay but it's only been last week (because I felt a lot better) that I realized I was still struggling with the huge sense of loss all these months. I'm sure your mom does mean well and would be sad to know it stings - it would me. I agree with mrskansas that maybe you could talk to her about how it feels .. would be a hard conversation for me to have admittedly but might be worth it to help you.
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@chypmunk: @mrskansas: @MrsJBeeG: I'm sorry
My mom does not know about our losses, in part because she would worry and in part because, TBH, I think she would be sort of judgmental about it. She's told me multiple times that I'm getting too old and that it's risky to have kids in your 30s...I think society, especially in more traditional circles, still tends to blame women for loss and IF. When my husband had to take off work for my D&E and explain why he needed off, his co-worker suggested that miscarriages are caused when women are stressed and maybe I needed a less stressful job 
Yeah, like that was going to fix the fact that my egg got randomly fertilized by two sperm. I just hate dealing with these sorts of comments...
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Hi, ladies. I'm 2-3 days late with a BFN. I wish AF would just show up already so I can move on to the next cycle. I don't want to get a BFP at this point because the only pregnancies I've had with late BFPs were a miscarriage and a CP.
Didn't want to post in the POAS board because "at least I'm still in the running" but I didn't think anyone would understand like you guys could.
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@periwinklebee: @mrsjbeeg: @mrsksnsas thank you for the support, unfortunately I have mentioned my feelings regarding the various comments/ insinuations and she still seems not to understand. It's very frustrating, however I keep reminding myself she doesn't do it maliciously...
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@Raspberry: I get it, it's almost like waiting for the ball to drop... going through this does make one a bit jaded... maybe your cycle is just late? Have you been regular? I know at one point I was in for a 46 day wait, covered in BFNs and just wishing that AF would just arrive so I can be able to try again
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@Raspberry: ugh how frustrating. Have you been tracking ovulation?
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@chypmunk: @mrskansas: Thanks, yep. I'm irregular but once I O the LP is always exactly 12 days. I tracked O with OPKs and temping so I'm confidant it happened when I think it did.
Thank you for reading!
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@Raspberry: I’m sorry. It is so hard to wait for AF. I was a less waiting for it to first occur after my loss. Was just ready to get started trying again.
So ladies - I’m literally only 3/4 dpo and already feeling like it’s not going to be my month. No idea why I feel this way - it’s too soon to know anything or feel anything. I’m wondering if it’s a new coping mechanism my brain is trying to start to avoid disappointment. Or it’s just that we’ve hit the right time for the last 4 months and it didn’t work - so why would this time work. Sigh. No matter how I approach ttc post- loss, I just suffer.
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@MrsJBeeG: I feel like that every month. For me, it's definitely a coping mechanism but it still doesn't help the disappointment! For what it's worth, the month I got pregnant with my daughter I was convinced it didn't work.
Keeping my fingers crossed for you -
7 DPO today and trying to "keep my cool" and not start peeing on tests like 5 times a day.
I'm glad that the worst days (8 & 9) fall over the weekend so at least I won't be sitting at work with too much time to think! -
@mrskansas: lol. I was just thinking earlier - we’ll maybe the feeling that it won’t happen this month means it will. Tortured logic I’m sure.
have thought every month would be the month and it wasn’t. I wish i could just ignore it and forget we are even trying during the tww. I hope we both end up on a due date board th A month.
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@MrsJBeeG: I've always been jealous of the women who wake up one day and think, huh, my period is late.. I should test! And then they are pregnant without trying or suffering through a TWW.
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@mrskansas: me too! I’d love to be that laid back about it. It’s not my personality type so I know it’s a pipe dream. I am really trying not to obsess about it this month. I can say that now ... 9 dpo probably not so much.
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@MrsJBeeG: at 5DPO here and I feel the same... I don't think this is the month.... last month I was sooo sure that it was going to be the month just to be so sadly disappointed. Just like you we've been hitting all the right times, but nothing...
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@mrskansas: it's so incredibly frustrating... I work at an OB/GYN so these girls that come in with an oops... not even sure how they got pregnant... I so envy their 'problem'... Or the couple that just decide ok let's get pregnant and BAM next month they're pregnant with minimal effort...
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@chypmunk: Oh gosh that would be so tough!! I had to go to my OB's office a few weeks ago and the receptionist was pregnant, the nurse and literally everyone in the waiting room too.
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@MrsJBeeG: Thanks.
I think you probably are using a coping mechanism! Being guarded with TTC is kind of like using self-deprecating humour as a defense mechanism.
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Hey everybody! I haven't posted much, but I wanted to report that I managed to get pregnant this month. I'm hoping it is lucky # 7 for me. I didn't get a positive test until 14 DPO which is crazy weird because I usually get them from 9DPO to 12DPO at the very latest. Yesterday at 15 DPO my hCG was 53.5 and my progesterone as 18.6 which is crazy good for me. My highest progesterone ever was 24 (who is now my 4 year old son) and most of the time it is 11 or 12. I will go back Monday for another hCG to find out if this one is sticky. I already have a feeling it is because I actually have symptoms- I was pretty nauseous this morning. Also, I've always tried for a March baby and ended up with two June babies. Well my due date would be June 6, so that makes me confident on stickiness too. June must be my month.
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Update: I just got AF and literally said out loud, "Oh, thank God!!"
@Dr. Pepper: Lots of sticky baby dust to you!
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@Dr. Pepper: Keep us updated!
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@Dr. Pepper: Congrats!!! Sending lots of sticky baby dust and best wishes for a healthy nine months and another June baby!
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@Raspberry: I'm sorry
But glad the limbo for this month is over.
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@periwinklebee: thank you!
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So I thought I’d share a silly ttc/tww random moment. I was driving home from having to stop in the office this morning and thought - hmm feels like my period is coming. Seriously I had menstrual like cramps for a few minutes. Then it stopped. I laughed because who thinks about a period on cycle day 18? Of course it’s not. I would have gotten excited about the idea of implementation cramps but I’m refusing to go down that road - I had random cramps last month and incredibly sore boobs and nausea at times and it meant nothing. My hormones seem stronger post loss and it’s causing a lot of crazy hopeful thoughts. So I’m chalking up the cramps to higher hormone levels and assuming it it will be another bfn this month. Helps me stay grounded at least right now at 4/5 dpo.
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@MrsJBeeG: my hormones were definitely stronger post loss. But I hope it does mean something good!
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10 DPO (maybe 9) and BFN. I probably won't test again since I'm pretty sure I'm out.
I find it kinda comical that I can't even get pregnant now after getting pregnant so easily (even though they didn't stick) in the past.
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@mrskansas: Same! I got pregnant on cycles 3 (DS), 1 (MC) and 1 (CP) before. Now I'm on cycle 6 after the CP and *crickets*. I'm not all that upset though because I'm scared of getting a BFP (that doesn't stick).
I hope it happens for all of us soon.
Yeah, like that was going to fix the fact that my egg got randomly fertilized by two sperm. I just hate dealing with these sorts of comments...
have thought every month would be the month and it wasn’t. I wish i could just ignore it and forget we are even trying during the tww. 
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