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Week 5 or 6. What does beta drop mean?

  1. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    I don't know if it makes a difference.

    The first blood was done by my family doctor.
    Second by the fertility clinic this morning.
    I wonder if there can be a discrepancy?

  2. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I don't think so, and certainly not such a big one.

  3. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @stiletto_mom: unfortunately I don't think it makes a difference. They are testing for the same thing, it's a pretty basic test.
    Really hoping you get clarity soon.

  4. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    I'm so sorry. Can you physically go to the office now? I wouldn't want to go through the weekend without having a clear idea about what to expect.

  5. snowjewelz

    wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts

    I am so so so so sorry

    And to find out via email is just horrible. This is not something that should be conveyed through email! I might not go to the office per se esp if it's far from you, but I'd keep calling back to demand to speak to an OB and ask WHY I am being told via email that I'm having a miscarriage?! So angry for you.

  6. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @stiletto_mom: Its a standard test so the location of the draw shouldn't matter. The only thing would be if the actual lab messed up the counts. Which would be a good reason to go ahead and have one more set of blood work and/or an ultrasound. But those are things you should be discussing with your actual doctor either over the phone or in person.

  7. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    Another thing to note, if you get a hold of someone, I would make sure to ask what you should do if you start to miscarry. At what point do you need to go to a hospital or get medical attention versus handling it on your own (loss of blood, weakness, etc).

  8. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    I emailed to ask if I should be seeing the Dr. about it.

    She said no and wait to see after Tuesdays blood.

  9. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @stiletto_mom: okay - so sounds like they want confirmation before they tell you anything/do anything? I still find this really inappropriate..

  10. Autumnmama79

    pear / 1703 posts

    @stiletto_mom: The state of not knowing whats going on is horrific. Hugs to you

  11. LBee

    pomegranate / 3895 posts

    @stiletto_mom: Can you go back to your family doctor and not the fertility clinic?

  12. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @stiletto_mom: This is incredibly inappropriate. I would be demanding to speak with a doctor before the end of the day, and I would definitely find another practice.

  13. avivoca

    watermelon / 14467 posts

    @stiletto_mom: If it were me, I would demand to see the doctor.

  14. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    Also I agree with everyone I would NOT go into the weekend without talking to a doctor or nurse to ask what's going on.

  15. Amorini

    persimmon / 1132 posts

    @stiletto_mom: Ugh, I don't really have anything more to add here. I just wanted to say I hope you can speak with the doctor and/or someone with a bedside manner before the weekend begins. Take care of you and then "take care" of them. And basically ditto what @Mrs. Lion: said.

  16. KrzyRiver

    apricot / 276 posts

    @stiletto_mom: Yes, different labs do things differently. My doctor makes a point of always telling me to go to the same lab, even though all the labs are Henry Ford labs. Try not to stress until you go back for your next test. I suppose it could always be a vanishing twin situation.

  17. pinkcupcake

    cantaloupe / 6751 posts

    I agree that this was a HORRIBLE way for them to handle it.

    I would demand to talk to a doctor or nurse RIGHT NOW, not a receptionist. I would keep calling and leave voicemail after voicemail, and if she's communicating via email, tell her to have a doctor or nurse call you back immediately. This is not an appropriate way for them to handle it.

  18. ldh112

    kiwi / 556 posts

    @stiletto_mom: Agreeing with what's been said already but I will add this:

    If you've called every known number to the practice and the only form of communication you are hearing from is email, email her back and ask for a number of an actual doctor or nurse so you can discuss the blood test results- today. If you still don't get anywhere with that, I'd leave work early and go to the office even if it meant losing sick time or something but that's just me. If a miscarriage is imminent, you should be given all that information now not in a few days.

  19. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @ldh112: I would do the same. I wouldn't leave the office until I spoke with a doctor or nurse who could explain the situation, what to possibly expect, etc.

    This is infuriating to me. I am so angry on your behalf @stiletto_mom:

  20. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @stiletto_mom: The nurse/receptionist can't essentially say she's sorry for your loss, ask if you want to cancel your ultrasound, and say you need to make sure your numbers get to 0...and then go on to say you don't need to see or speak to a doctor and wait till Tuesday's draw!
    This is making my blood boil. She basically told you you're having a miscarriage (which isn't even 100% confirmed) but won't let you ask questions. Horrible. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.

  21. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    They're closed for the long weekend.

    Even if I went to my family doctor,I wouldn't get results for another 2-3 biz days.

    I'm just going to go in on Tuesday for blood and try not to stress or freak out about it over the weekend.

    But this has put a halt to our celebratory mood.

    Just going to proceed with caution and take it easy this weekend.

    Hopefully there was some mistake.

  22. avivoca

    watermelon / 14467 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I'm so sorry. Whatever happens, they did not handle this well and I would definitely look for a new doctor. I can't believe that they won't get a doctor in to talk to you even if they are closed for the weekend.

  23. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    And for some reason, this clinic doesn't answer their phone ever. I can only get in contact with them through email.

    It's a shame because they have a good relationship with the hospital I want to birth at.

  24. Dagny

    apricot / 461 posts

    I just want to say that I'm really sorry your office is handling things like this. I hope you can get more information soon!!

  25. Torchwood

    pomelo / 5607 posts

    What the shit?!?! I am so furious for you right now! I don't think it would actually be possible for this to have been handled any worse. I just want to go out there and rage at these people for treating you like this! Who the hell blindsides someone with something like this, AND presumably leaves someone to miscarry with zero information?! You should have been told clearly, and gently, and told what will happen as well as your options. I just can't effing believe a doctor's office would do this. Is there any kind of recourse you can turn to you think? At the very least there are sites that let you rate doctors and tell your experience. I would be blasting them right and left.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this. Limbo is the worst, and now you have to wait through a long weekend? I'm hoping it's some kind of mix up, though I'm afraid that I agree that it doesn't look good. It does seem odd to have such a drastic drop with no bleeding, but that's just based on my experience; I don't know what's typical.

    Lots of hugs. Know that you have a lot of ladies here that care and are both sad and angry on your behalf.

  26. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    No bleeding at all.

    The only real difference is that yesterday I got really fatigued and that carried over to today.

    My breasts are still sore, but definitely not as bad as last weekend.

    I don't know what to think, I don't know what to do. Just caught between the brink of freaking out and trying to remain calm/stress-free.

  27. ldh112

    kiwi / 556 posts

    @stiletto_mom: do you have prenatal coverage on your insurance? You could go get a blood test at the hospital and get much quicker results.

  28. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    @ldh112: I'm in Canada, so I don't know if we have coverage. but our wait times are pretty bad for non emergencies. I don't know if I want to spend 6-8 hours in a hospital.

  29. MenagerieMama

    pear / 1547 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I'm a doctor and I would be furious if one of my staff was handling this the way it seems to be being handled. I wouldn't necessarily blame your doctor, but there has been some kind of horrible miscommunication. I agree that betas like that indicate a miscarriage. I find it extremely horrible that this kind of news would be communicated indirectly through ancillary staff which makes me hope there was some kind of mix up. Either way my thoughts are with you. You should not be suffering with this uncertainty.

  30. Autumnmama79

    pear / 1703 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I am in Canada too and have unfortunately experienced two miscarriages, one over a long wknd and one over Christmas holidays. If you want to know what's going on with your betas, go to the hospital. Not sure where you're located but I've never waited over 1 hour to be seen by a doc in emerg. They can do your bloods right away and hopefully you can get some idea of where this is going.

  31. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    @Autumnmama79: Did you just walk in and go to emerg? What did you ask for? What did you say?

    @MenagerieMama: Thanks so much for your kind words. Our Doctor is really popular, so I assume her assistant (the girl who emailed me) kind of filters correspondences between her patients and her.

    However, I don't want to write off the OB just because of her assistant. So I'm thinking in the future, any correspondence I have with the assistant, I will BCC to the doctor.

    I really didn't appreciate how vague she was about it. I get she see's miscarriages on a daily basis, but I definitely felt blindsided.

  32. Autumnmama79

    pear / 1703 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I said, I'm worried I might be having a miscarriage. My symptoms have decreased, etc. I had spotting so I said that too. Hopefully they will see you as they recognize there's a risk of bleeding or possible ectopic dangers in early pregnancy.

    I wanted to add that it's not even a guarantee that's what's happening to you, just thought I would share my experience with the Canadian healthcare system and this kind of event on a long weekend.

    It's hard not to know

  33. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    @Autumnmama79: Thanks.

    I think I may wait until Tuesday. Just going to be a LONG long weekend. Having it on my mind through Valentines and Family Day is going to be hard.

  34. Synchronicity

    grapefruit / 4089 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I'm so sorry that you're in limbo right now. Hoping for the best possible outcome for you!

  35. FaithFertility

    eggplant / 11861 posts

    I'm so sorry! My heart hurts for you! Her assistant is awful and probably is blessed that she has never been in a situation like yours and had no bed side manner!
    Prayers!!

  36. ScarletBegonia

    persimmon / 1339 posts

    If I were in your shoes I would have to know. I would go to emergency, speak to a doctor and tell them exactly what is happening including beta #s. I would ask to have bloods taken with a 4 to 6 hour interval. Stay in the waiting room if you have to - emergency rooms should have only a couple of hours turnaround for bloods, if that. Within a 4-6 hour interval there should either be a very small increase in bHCG, or a drop - either way it should give you some more insight into what's happening.
    You're likely to be very low on triage in the ER for this, so be prepared for a wait, if its what you want to do. Personally I couldn't go the weekend without knowing, but if you want to take it easy and reassess next week that's totally your prerogative.
    Good luck with everything. I hope you get good news

  37. jaguar

    pomegranate / 3764 posts

    Hun, as someone who has gone through several miscarriages, I am FURIOUS at how this has been thrown at you. I'm sorry, but it's just not okay.

    Look, I know for me.. worrying about this all weekend (& keeping hope alive that all is fine) only to get bad news early next week would be devastating - I'd rather know early. I would also go straight to the hospital. I know there's technically nothing that they can do (apart from checking you over) - and depending on how far along you are, it may even be too early to see anything on a scan... but I'd rather know.

    Please let us know how you go. This is just awful. I'm so sorry, regardless of the outcome.

  38. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @stiletto_mom: I understand why you'd wait. I am hoping for the best for you. Hang in there.

  39. stiletto_mom

    persimmon / 1183 posts

    Do you guys think this may confirm the worst?

    My pregnancy symptoms have lessened. My appetite is back, breasts are less sore. But now I have fatigue/exhaustion and a general "zoned out" feeling (which started Thursday night before I found out about the betas).

  40. pinkcupcake

    cantaloupe / 6751 posts

    @stiletto_mom: personally, I found my symptoms varied from day to day so don't think it's an entirely reliable source of information... I would try to go to a hospital like others above suggested

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