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@mrskansas: HOLY. SHIT.
So far I have covered all these costs out of my paycheck because I make more than DH does. But I think I'm going to have to start asking him to chip in because this is crazy.
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@dominobee: It's ridiculous how much this stuff costs. All of our money is joint and we do have really good insurance, but "fertility" (or lack thereof) is not covered well.
I was that person who used to think that infertility should not be covered under insurance because having children is not medically necessary, but that was when I got pregnant the first month with my daughter. Now I am eating my words.
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@mrskansas: WOW.
That's my worry about fertility treatments for me. None of it covered whatsoever--the meds I'm not so worried about, but the procedures and diagnostics are up the wazoo. Luckily, the fertility place I'm scheduled at has their prices right on the website.
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@madisonbee: At least they are up front about their prices. Do you mind sharing what clinic you're going to? I'd love to see what all of this stuff runs if you pay out of pocket.
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@mrskansas: http://www.uwhealth.org/infertility/financial-information-for-fertility-treatments/20403
My appt in June for consultation is covered by insurance. Anything after that, we're on our own.
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@madisonbee: Wow. That's crazy. I can't believe an ultrasound alone is almost $300.
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@mrskansas: Right? At least seeing it helps me plan if we need it. I don't mind the IUI pricing--I expected more. The IVF on the other hand....
Although I can't complain, because my friend doing IVF in CA is paying almost double.
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@madisonbee: I just looked at my bill from Quest for the lab tests my RE ordered a few weeks ago. They billed insurance $1,400! Our responsibility is only $40 but without coverage
that would be ridiculous
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@mrskansas: Good lord!
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April isn't even here yet and I am already feeling discouraged...I am CD 14 (last cycle was 27 days) and my OPKS are so light that you can barely see the test line! I don't get it...
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@Coral: I had a few 26 and 27 day cycles and then last month got a positive opk on like day 16? Ended up with a 30 or 31 day cycle. Don't give up hope!
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@Coral: Ugh, that's annoying. Are you doing yours in the AM or PM? My OPKs were always more visible/darker late afternoon to early evening. My FMU and SMU ones were always barely there.
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@madisonbee: that's a good point. I read (maybe even on the box) that 2pm or later is the ideal time.
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@Coral: Don't be discouraged yet! It could be any day. My OPKs are always super negative and then bam, positive. Also, like the other girls said, make sure you are using afternoon or evening urine.
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@mrskansas: @madisonbee: @jhd: Thanks, ladies!
I wouldn't be too disappointed if this month doesn't work out, but the spotting at CD 10/11 and then the totally negative OPKS is just weird. I'm taking them during the pm and my OPKS used to have a slow progression to positive so I don't know. Maybe it's just an off cycle. But it's still early. 
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@Coral: TTC tends to throw everything off
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I think the trigger might be out by 7 DPO meaning I can test early. Not sure if that's good or bad
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@mrskansas: I get the logic behind that but you could also say that maybe treatments for heart disease shouldn't be covered for people who just ate too much fast food in their lives. I mean it's a slippery slope. We all make our life choices and there can be medical consequences to them. If you're seeing a doctor, it should be covered, at least partially!
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@mrskansas: Yeah the monthly CD2 or 3 ultrasounds were killing me, ours ran about the same. I told the doc and he said we didn't need to do them or mid-cycle blood work since we've now confirmed twice that I am ovulating on Clomid.
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@dominobee: I completely agree with you. That was just my naive and immature logic years ago
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@dominobee: What do they check at CD 2/3 ultrasounds? I've never heard of that!
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@Coral: My last cycle was 27 days and I didn't get my positive OPK until the evening of CD 15.
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@mrskansas: I have no flippin' idea actually. I mean they basically would look at my lining... and I guess confirm my ovaries were still in there somewhere?! LOL I don't know!
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@dominobee: HA. That seems like an odd time to do it. I would think it make more sense around CD 10 or 12 but what do I know!
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@mrskansas: I just did some research and I guess they're just looking to confirm there are no cysts before starting Clomid. And they also count the immature follicles.
But obviously if he said we don't need to do them, they're not all that important.
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@dominobee: @mrskansas: A CD 2/3 ultrasound checks for cysts on your ovaries and other problems. They don't like to give you clomid/femera if you have cysts since they will just take all of the hormones and no other follicles will grow.
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@dominobee: Interesting, never knew that was a thing!
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@snarkybiochemist: Ah awesome, thanks for filling us in!
@mrskansas: CD 5. So I took my Clomid last night and then told DH I wanted to turn the heat down to 50 overnight, definitely the coldest we've ever kept it! I still woke up and had to take my sweatshirt off but I wasn't sweating like I was the night before. The cool air actually felt sooooo good.
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@dominobee: I'm still getting some hot flashes occasionally! I think it was around 60 last night and I was laying there feeling so clammy and gross but it wasn't as bad as when I was actually taking Clomid.
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@mrskansas: Holy shit I didn't even think of that. Luckily we are FINALLY getting air conditioning this spring after two summers in our house without it.
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@dominobee: Just thinking about no AC makes me hot. Kansas summers are brutal though.
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@Coral: I've found that there are huge differences between batches of opks. The last batch I got almost always looked dark-ish and made it harder to tell a true positive. Before that, the batch was always much lighter. They're cheap tests, more than precise scientific instruments, and I think how dark the line is for a given amount of LH varies quite a lot from batch to batch. Maybe you just got a non-sensitive batch....
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@mrskansas: Pittsburgh summers are brutal too. Last year it was 90 degrees pretty much every day from June through mid-September.
I talked to my grandpa who lives in Kansas over the weekend and he said it was 90!!
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@dominobee: I couldn't do it, you're a strong person!
It was 90 here on Monday and it has cooled off since, but today is supposed to be 75 and storm season is starting. I love thunderstorms though so I'm excited! And we get a break from the heat when it's stormy. -
@periwinklebee: They were all purchased separately from the dollar store. I bought a clear blue easy one just to verify and still super light. I may need to buy a big batch of them instead of buying from the dollar store. It adds up!
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@Coral: I use easy @ home from amazon. I also love their cheapie pregnancy tests - they got dark for me better than FRERs and seem to show a line at really low levels of hcg.
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I don't know if it's the Clomid/HCG or just being more anxious than usual, but I am so, so exhausted. My husband told me yesterday that I had mascara under my eyes but it was just dark circles. I guess I better get used to it because if I end up pregnant it will only get worse, but geez, I don't know what to do.
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@mrskansas: Maybe it's the trigger? hcg made me so exhausted...
I'm having one of those days where I am completely overwhelmed by my to-do list, and yet somehow still want so, so much to be pregnant (and the memories of how sick and exhausted I felt while pregnant are still pretty fresh!)
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@periwinklebee: I feel like that most days too. So much to do and it's a lot easier not being pregnant, but I still want it so much.
I do think my exhaustion is a combination of the trigger & just being anxious and not sleeping well. I need to learn to relax.
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@mrskansas:
I hope that you feel better soon and that this is all in service of a sticky LO.
That's my worry about fertility treatments for me. None of it covered whatsoever--the meds I'm not so worried about, but the procedures and diagnostics are up the wazoo. Luckily, the fertility place I'm scheduled at has their prices right on the website.
I wouldn't be too disappointed if this month doesn't work out, but the spotting at CD 10/11 and then the totally negative OPKS is just weird. I'm taking them during the pm and my OPKS used to have a slow progression to positive so I don't know. Maybe it's just an off cycle. But it's still early. 
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