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  1. oliviaoblivia

    pineapple / 12793 posts

    @Adira: this is an intervention. You need a new daycare. They are careless with Xander's well being. His initial allergic reaction is so recent. They should be hyper vigilant about his diet, not "whoopsie fed him formula." Yes it was a mistake, but it was one with very real consequences for his well being. I hope Xander is feeling better. Hugs.

  2. bpcmarj

    pomegranate / 3729 posts

    I am so sorry that he had a reaction. Scary. If I were you, I would be looking for somewhere else to send him Big hug to you.

  3. Lindsay05

    pomegranate / 3759 posts

    I am sorry this happened. I would be angry too! But in their defense, shit happens and people make mistakes. I try not to worry a whole about what daycare does with LO. As long as she is fed, watered, changed and happy then I am happy. But I do see why this crosses that line and they should be more careful to the instructions you have given.

  4. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @T.H.O.U.: What would I talk to the director about? I mean, besides the fact that this happened, I'm not sure what else I would say?

    @emg86: I do not know what they normally do with children who have allergies...

    @littlek: I don't know.... I know that the other teachers who aren't new know to give Xander his BM bottles and besides arguing with me about how much BM he needs, they've been good about following my instructions (besides that puffs incident that since I spoke to the director has not happened again). And Xander LOVES them, so... I don't know... the location, price, and how happy Xander seems there makes me want to stay... but I don't know what's the right thing to do...

  5. brownie

    grapefruit / 4110 posts

    @Adira: I suspect Xander will love many places. The initial move is hard but you have had repeated issues with this daycare. It seems like lots of signs that it isn't the right place for your family. Is there anywhere else with location and price?

  6. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    I am just gonna say that the OP didn't ask whether she should find another daycare . . . it was/is just a vent post. I think some of the comments have been a little aggressive in that regard.

  7. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Adira: I already told you my opinion on this. But I will say Xander will be fine if you decide to go with another place. At this age I think moving centers is much easier then it would be at the age of 3.

  8. littlek

    GOLD / squash / 13576 posts

    @MsLipGloss: True true...

    @Adira: I'm sorry you are going through this.

  9. Smurfette

    GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts

    @Adira: I also just want to give you a big HUG! I know you are stressing about what to do. I am glad that Xander is ok and sleeping it off!!

  10. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    So just got off the phone with the director and she apologized again and again and was relieved to hear that Xander is doing okay. She said there really was no excuse for what happened and she agreed with me that this shouldn't have happened and there's no reason for it. She said she put all the teachers through "re-education" on proper feeding and making sure the correct baby is getting the correct food, etc. She also said they are going to put pictures of the babies next to their names on the feeding plan to ensure that the babies don't get mixed up again. She also said that the teacher that did it cried when she realized she had messed up and that she was rocking Xander and apologizing to him. She felt so horrible! So I really do think that now they'll be EXTRA vigilant and careful with Xander...

    You all probably think I'm crazy, but I am leaning towards giving them another chance... I'll have to talk to Hubs, but I'm sure his opinion is going to be that it was just a mistake and not worth moving Xander to a new daycare because of it. I definitely understand why so many people are encouraging me to find a new daycare, but I'm inclined to just stick it out for now... maybe that's the wrong thing to do... I don't know...

  11. honeybear

    nectarine / 2085 posts

    I don't think your reaction is ridiculous, and it definitely isn't given that your son had a reaction to the formula. It seems that you've had several experiences where your reasonable instructions were not followed, or were challenged, by the daycare's staff. I don't think that's acceptable.

    ETA: I just saw your update. I don't think it's nuts to keep him there if you feel that the explanation was adequate and that there are now sufficient safeguards in place to make sure that nothing similar happens again. My feeling is that instinct should be your guide on this, but I might also look around for other options in the event of another mistake or incident.

  12. Cole

    grapefruit / 4649 posts

    @Adira: Big hugs to you and Xander, what an overwhelming day for you both. I can totally see both sides of the switching thing but I think ultimately your gut needs to be your guide. If you think it is the right place for him than it is. Personally, if I still felt comfortable enough I would keep him there but they would have a short rope on future mistakes. I hope you have a nice peaceful weekend!

  13. winniebee

    hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts

    I'm sorry this happened. It does seem like your son's daycare is not especially careful about food issues.

    However, formula is not poison. I'm not trying to diminish the fact that breastfeeding is hard work...but honestly of all of the things for your child to ingest, formula is far from the worst thing in the world.

    Also, my son was dairy intolerant and when I was breastfeeding, I could not eat dairy or else he had a reaction (blood in stool). Since you eat dairy and he has not had issues, it's possible that he had a reaction to something else in the formula...or something else entirely. Every baby is different and I'm not saying he DOESNT have an intolerance....but I'd also consider other factors and what else he ate / what other ingredients are in the formula.

  14. littlek

    GOLD / squash / 13576 posts

    @Adira: It sounds like an honest mistake. I think there is nothing wrong with giving them a second chance.

  15. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @Adira: I'm all for giving people another chance. As long as you're comfortable with the daycare's response to the issue (and the previous issues you've had with them), then I would leave him there. Should another big incident happen again, I'd probably be out of there faster than you could blink.

  16. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @Adira: You have every right to be upset. But, it also sounds like you're with a great daycare (that was pretty great to be honest with you). Hopefully his belly isn't upset from it!

  17. MamaG

    pomelo / 5298 posts

    I certainly understand your desire to give the daycare one more chance. We have our daughter in a great daycare and we have had some hardships and heartburn. Change is hard when it concerns your child. We have changed daycares once and it was entirely planned. We knew the first daycare we used we didn't want to use beyond one year. We knew exactly where we wanted our daughter to move to and it was still hard.

    You have to know your tolerance level and be comfortable with it. I will say that I loved one of our daughters teachers and that's probably what made the decision the hardest. But know this, most of the people that work in daycare environments love children and are great with them. It's why they do what they do. Your child will almost certainly love another teacher elsewhere just as well.

  18. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @winniebee: Oh, I completely agree! I know formula is great and I really have nothing against it - I think it's just upsetting because I've worked so hard to provide him with BM and I was proud of the fact he hadn't had formula, but I know it's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things!

    And I was actually wondering if it might be something ELSE in the formula since I've been having milk and dairy all this time and he seems fine! But hopefully the allergist will have more insight into what's up!

    @2PeasinaPod: Yes, I do agree that this is their LAST CHANCE! If something like this happens again, I don't think I could continue to stay, even though we LOVE the location, price, and convenience of the place! But if they mess up what they feed him again, the shit it hitting the fan!

  19. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @MamaG: I'm sure that's probably true - Xander seems to really love everyone, so he would probably be able to adjust to a new daycare just fine. There's just so many things I like about this daycare, that I'm loathe to switch! Plus there really aren't a TON of great options in our area. But I do know I have to do whatever's best for Xander, so switching is something to consider.

  20. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @Adira: I'm glad you talked to the director. This is what I would have discussed. What is their policy, what is the training of the teacher, and what are they going to do in the future to make sure this doesn't happen again.

    As I mentioned, our daycare is required to post a big red allergy sheet in each class with a picture of the child and a list of the allergies. Even though you may not have everything identified with X, I would suggest seeing if they would post his name, picture, and allergies in a clear place in the classroom. Go ahead and put Dairy and Berries on there and maybe even a smaller footnote that he is on a STRICT feeding (only home provided food) until other allergies are sorted out.

    I would also consider getting new bottles or putting something really identifiable on his bottles so that a mistake doesn't happen again. Maybe get a bright neon blue/green paint or tape to put on the side.

  21. Bookish

    GOLD / cantaloupe / 6581 posts

    @Adira: Don't worry for a second whether we think you are crazy or not! If *you* are comfortable, believe Xander is well taken care of, and are willing to give them another chance, then that's all that matters. We, despite our good intentions, should really have no bearing on what you do! It's your adorable little man, not ours, and you need to do what you feel most comfortable with.

    Lots of hugs to you both!

  22. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @Adira: Also...totally off topic, but S has an egg allergy. He's had several things with egg in them (and I've had egg products while I was EPing early on), but he didn't have a reaction until I gave him a piece of scrambled egg. That's when he got hives and itchy eyes. The allergist will definitely be able to give you more information on how severe it is!

  23. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    And one last note! For those saying that they should have the children listed with the allergy next to their name, that's actually a violation of HIPAA without parental consent. Our daycare isn't allowed to post anything like that without parental permission...and even then, are heavily scrutinized by our state for doing so.

  24. Mrsbells

    squash / 13199 posts

    @Adira: Sorry this happened it can be frustrating when daycares make mistakes.

  25. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: Thank you for that clarification! The director actually mentioned that they couldn't post anything public with his name and his allergies, but that they put the allergies in their roster that the teachers are supposed to check. She said if a child had a severe life threatening allergy, they will post a sign on the door saying something like "a child in this room has a severe allergy to ______ and we request that parents refrain from bringing in anything containing _____."

  26. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @Adira: Anytime! I had to sign a statement indicating that I full gave permission for anyone to know about his egg allergy b/c I want everyone and their mother to know about it. If it means saving his life, post this info everywhere! But I know there are some parents who are fiercely protective of any medical information (since they don't want their child defined by their allergy) so I get it. I just have a different mindset!

  27. travellingbee

    hostess / papaya / 10219 posts

    @Adira: Sorry you are going through this. Poor little Xander. I second @Bookish in that you are the one who knows best for your sweet baby!
    On a side note, LaLeche has an article here:
    http://www.lalecheleague.org/nb/nbjulaug98p100.html where they note that a breastfed baby that has an allergy to dairy may have the symptom of eczema, which Xander does.... "Eczema--dry, rough, red skin patches which can progress to open, weeping sores--is another common symptom among children allergic to cow's milk." So even though it seemed like he isn't affected by dairy in your diet, maybe he is? I'll be interested to see what the allergist says.

  28. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: Yea, I totally get that you would have to give that right but like you said, if my child even had a SLIGHT allergy (like this dairy reaction) I would want everyone and their mother to know about it.

    I like the idea that its posted in a public place with the child's picture because at this age the child cannot speak. Once they get a bit older you could ask the child to identify themselves

  29. winniebee

    hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts

    Yes, my son had mild eczema as well -- particularly when we started trials of cow's milk. he eventually outgrew the intolerance.

  30. Ms.Badger

    clementine / 918 posts

    @Adira: I don't know where you fall on the medical privacy, but you could get a allergy bracelet in a bright color to "remind" caregivers. Something like this: http://www.stickyj.com/ag1000c.html?source=googleps&gclid=CNi5vfvY57oCFTRk7AodOT0AHQ#.UoaMreKtFqA

  31. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    Poor Xander, glad he's okay now!

  32. Beehive

    nectarine / 2054 posts

    I would be really upset. I'm sorry you keep having to deal with these issues with your daycare... they seem a bit careless in the feeding department.

    ETA: just finished reading the comments - so scary that he had a reaction, and I'm glad to hear he's doing okay. It sounds like you had a good discussion with the director, and from the teacher's reaction I'm sure it was a mistake (one I'm sure she'll never make again!). Still very upsetting though.

  33. cmomma17

    honeydew / 7811 posts

    @Adira: how's the little guy doing? is he okay?

  34. MamaJ

    pear / 1609 posts

    @Adira: oh man. I would be upset too. I hope he is feeling better! I also just wanted to let you know that I BF as well and don't eliminate dairy from my diet. But when I have given DS dairy (cheese, yogurt, etc) he always has a reaction. I thought he would be fine since I eat it but nope...

  35. Periwinkle

    pear / 1879 posts

    I would be feeling the exact same way as you, and you have the right to be angry! I know how hard it is to feel like you've lost control of something as important as feeding. I've been there with my LO and I can relate.

    Big hugs to you and X. What a day

  36. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @Ms.Badger: This is such a great idea. I think I'm going to get one for my LO for day care days!

    @Adira: Hope Xander is feeling better. TGIF, right??

  37. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @travellingbee: @MamaJ: Yeah, I wonder if his eczema might be related to my ingesting dairy... don't know though. I've mentioned it a couple times to his pediatrician and dermatologist, but neither of them thought I should eliminate dairy, so who knows!

    @cmomma17: His hives are definitely going down, but he has been fuss tonight... I'm not really sure why, but maybe it's because the formula is upsetting his stomach? But he's also teething, so I have no idea!

    @Ms.Badger: Thanks for that link!! I might have to look into getting one of those! Though not sure Xander will like having it on, haha.

  38. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: Definitely, so glad it's the weekend and I can spend the next two days with him!

  39. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: and @Ms.Badger: I taught at a camp this past summer and a little girl had one of these because she is allergic to latex. It was a great bracelet and she knew to ask before she any kind if bandaid.

  40. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    So sorry this happened. I would be upset too. I'm glad that they told you right away and that you talked to the director. Hopefully they will take the right steps to make sure this doesn't happen in the future.

    Hope that Xander is feeling better.

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