Has your doctor suggested an endometrial biopsy to see if it could be an implantation issue? I hope the cost of the testing is reasonable
IF can be so lonely and make you feel so helpless sometimes that it is helpful to hear from graduates because it reminds you that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks!!
My RE recommends it on your second IVF cycles if the first doesn't work just to eliminate any possibilities, plus most clinics in Canada do not offer any multi-cycles packages so each cycle is full cost 
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@momazon: Sad, but true...
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@bluestriped bee: It is ok to feel jealous and to be "angry" that you have to spend money to have a baby when it seems like everyone else can get pregnant at the drop of a hat. It took me a while to be ok with taking the money from our down payment savings so that we could try IVF, I had a lot of guilt that I was taking something away from my SO but he assured me that he would rather rent a while longer than not at least try to have a baby
@momazon: I really hope this next cycle works for you
Has your doctor suggested an endometrial biopsy to see if it could be an implantation issue? I hope the cost of the testing is reasonable
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@bluestriped bee: Yes, I have been jealous of the thousands of dollars I have spent on IF/IVF treatments while others have not experienced those costs. However, it's not their fault but rather insurance companies, health plans and govt legislation (or lack there of). So personally, I just made a conscious decision to not focus on that in order to avoid that pain amid this IF journey that is painful in so many ways. This IF stuff is hard and I am so sorry we all have to deal with it. Hugs and
On the other hand, I am grateful to have the choice to pursue a child through IVF, even though we had to take on debt to do so. I was talking with my aunt about how much IF treatment has advanced in the past 40 years. She was unable to conceive a child and wishes she could have tried IVF.
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Based on a comment I read on another thread today, I wanted to ask if the current IVF ladies would prefer that I (an IVF graduate) not post on your thread? I would welcome your honest opinion. Thanks and
to you all!
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@kentuckygirl: I love hearing from graduates! Gives me hope!
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@kentuckygirl: I have seen a couple of similar comments and for me personally I love having graduates come back to this thread to offer support or advise.
IF can be so lonely and make you feel so helpless sometimes that it is helpful to hear from graduates because it reminds you that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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@mrswin: He hasn't mentioned it, but I will ask if he thinks it's advised! I've never had any unusual bleeding pre-IVF, and my lining always seems to be nice and healthy and normal during my scans, but I've never even read up on that. I'm 37, so i just always assume my eggs are a little bit dusty and cracked (haha) and it may just take me a few more tries than others.
Thanks!!
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@momazon: Cracked and dusty lol
My RE recommends it on your second IVF cycles if the first doesn't work just to eliminate any possibilities, plus most clinics in Canada do not offer any multi-cycles packages so each cycle is full cost 
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@kentuckygirl: please keep posting here! I guarantee that comment wasn't aimed at IVF graduates.
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@mrswin: thanks. Yeah, our IVF money is coming from savings that would be put towards our down payment on a home. I'm not looking at homes to buy and won't be for quite a while (waiting til I get pregnant to move and find a new job), so I don't feel the emotions of being held back quite yet.
@kentuckygirl: yeah, it's true, it's not their fault. Like I told my sister (now pregnant), they are just lucky not to have IF like us.
As for your question, I really like it when graduates check-in and answer questions. You guys have a wealth of information to share. For some of us, we can't keep up with due date threads because it can be so hard to see people pregnant but I love seeing how you graduates are doing. You know or knew how it feels like to have IF. You inspire hope for me!
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@Shutterbug: I know it wasn't specific to the IVF thread but I wanted to ask. The commotion today has made me want to ensure I am being considerate in my posts.
@momazon: @mrswin: @Shutterbug: @bluestriped bee: thanks for your replies!
If anyone else has an opinion, please continue to share.
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Is anyone planning for a FET in the next few months? We have one frosty left that we're going to be using, if my cycle ever returns to normal after our recent d&c.
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@jaguar: my RE said I should have a FET by the end of the year. My ET will be Oct/Nov. So hopefully my FET will be Nov/Dec. my RE doesn't want to do a fresh cycle so I'll be moving straight to FET after I recover from the stims of my ET.
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@kentuckygirl: No, I'm definitely happy to see grads around as mentors and cheerleaders. It also seems like early in an IF/IVF pregnancy, there's nowhere else "safe" to be...or maybe that's just me?
@jaguar: I'm tentatively planning a transfer for late Novemer or very early December (hopefully maximizing the chances that DH will be able to take off work). I'm also hoping that's plenty of time for my cycle to "normalize" and have another SHG performed post-D+C.
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@FliegepilzHut: I agree with you. I have stuck around this thread because even though I got a BFP I'm not ready for the due date boards...I hope no one minds
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@mrswin: So happy to see you...and happy for you!
At this rate, I don't know if I'll ever be comfortable on the Due Date threads...which seems a bit depressing, I guess. On the other hand, my trajectory so far has been anything but "normal.". Twice bitten, extra shy, I suppose? 
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@bluestriped bee: I struggled with that too. IVF was 100% out of pocket so it was hard thing to accept that we had to use down payment for a future home on this but I had to keep telling myself .. It's just money it's just money... To have a chance at a family ended up trumping owning a home. It still just blows my mind when people have insurance that covers everything. I feel like they won the lottery !!
@kentuckygirl: not sure what the other comment was but I love the infertility grads checking in. It's what kept giving me hope when I felt like id never get pregnant.
@mrswin: same here, I've been going back and forth about joining the April group. Maybe after my ultrasound? I feel like just because we got out BFP's we are still on the IVF journey.. We all know how nothing is guaranteed so until I've got a baby in my arms I will feel the infertility struggle.
@jaguar: hope your hanging in there ok!
@momazon: i understand. You know we are always here for you and totally understand when you need some time away too. Glad you have a good cycle plan to keep you moving forward!
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Just wanted to say a quick hello and see how everyone is doing. We have been very caught up in the chaos of moving and transitions, so I've been non-stop and am exhausted. Unfortunately, we have no plans at the moment to do another FET so thinking about that (and reading about everyone's plans - although of course so happy for you!!
) does tend to make me a bit sad. But I know we have to get our finances back in order with my husband's new job and a new house. Our FET's are about $3,700 without meds. And while our old insurance was actually great about covering meds, I'm nervous that the new insurance won't cover as much. OK, enough complaining from me…@Mrs.Pinecone316: @mrswin: I had a tough time moving over to the due date boards when I was pregnant with my LO, but it actually does get a lot easier as time goes on. And you have all the pregnancy things in common even if the TTC wasn't quite the same
.@kentuckygirl: I'm also happy to hear from and have the support of grads (since I'm kinda one myself) now that I am going through TTC again.
@bluestriped bee: I think you may know that I've had a really hard time dealing with the costs of IF and feeling like I've had to put my life on hold while others buy houses, go on vacations, etc. Especially after this most recent CP, I feel like I wasted 4k, even though I know we had to try! And we may do it all again in a few months… on a different note, I wish my RE would have done an FET the first time around rather than a fresh transfer since with my OHSS it was unlikely that I would have success (although I'm so happy that @Mrs.Pinecone316: has had a different experience despite the OHSS!!).
@jaguar: @FliegepilzHut: Hope you ladies are doing ok
! Keeping my fingers crossed that we might be cycling together later this year. I'm definitely hoping to try before 2015!!
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@GreenThumb: Yes! The more the merrier!
I'm sorry if my talking about FET has been in any way a downer for you right now...I'm just trying to keep putting one foot in front of the other....@Mrs.Pinecone316: I don't really know if this applies...but I was thinking about it the other day: until I'm a parent, I think IF will be much more salient to my overall identity than pregnancy...which does make the entire process a little different, at least for me. And hence why, the next time I'm pregnant, I'm going to be advocating for a "Pregnant and Anxious as Heck" thread...
ETA: I don't have my hopes up entirely...but at least this next transfer is still covered under our initial package plan. If we're lucky, we won't have to worry about doing (and paying for!) another fresh cycle in the spring.
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@FliegepilzHut: Oh no, absolutely nothing anyone specifically said!! I try not to be sensitive that way. Too much gets lost in translation. Just looking forward to having the next cycle to look forward to
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@lazypanda: Good luck!!! I hope you get your
soon!!!!@macintosh: Glad your ET went well! I had to sit in the waiting room for a while for mine too, and the partial releases are awful!!! Good luck to you!!!
@bluestriped bee: Honestly, as awful I feel to admit this, I don't know that I will ever be completely over the jealousy. I try not to be, but it's hard. One of my best friend's is pregnant with a baby she and her DH weren't planning on and she isn't excited or ready for him. It's kind of killing me. And here I am shooting my stomach full of shots and on IVF #2...ugh. I think it's normal to have the jealousy, I know it sucks though!
@jaguar: Not a FET for me, but we are looking at a fresh transfer probably the week of 09/15. Good luck to you!
@GreenThumb: I'm sorry.
I hate that finances have to be a constraint to try for a baby. It's awful! It is hard to wait. I am hoping the time passes quickly for you. I know after our last failed IVF I felt like our next cycle was so far away, and it really has gotten here much faster than I thought. -
I did my first Lupron injection this morning and right now I am scheduled to start stims on 09/05. I am not as excited as I was for our first IVF, but I am trying to be as optimistic as I can be!
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@Sunshine1810: I'm full of optimism for you! Sending lots of
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@FliegepilzHut: Thank you!
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@bluestriped bee: The jealousy never really goes away, even though I already have a son. I keep thinking all the time what we could have done with the $30,000 we spent on two IVF's in the last 2 1/2 years. It's not fair that any of us have to spend so much money to have a baby!! I'm excited for you, though!!!
@FliegepilzHut: I'm so excited for you to try again with a FET!!
@Sunshine1810: I am so optimistic for you with IVF #2. This will be your lucky cycle!!!!
@GreenThumb: I hope the move is going OK. I'm sorry it's been so tough. Wishing you all the best with ttc again!!
@Mrs.Pinecone316: Hope you are continuing to feel better each day. Remind me when your ultrasound is?
@mrswin: Remind me when your ultrasound is? I can't keep dates straight.
Mine is Monday. I'm sure we won't see much since it is so early. I actually wish they didn't do them so early, but my clinic starts them weekly right away. Hope to see a sac (or sacs!). Based on my beta, I think it is just a singleton.
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@Jenn23: Thank you!
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@bluestriped bee: I'm right there with you on the cold. Mine turned into bronchitis too, then DH caught it. I'm still coughing and it's been over a week. I know exactly what you mean about the jealousy. I'm lucky that our insurance pays for part of it, but I'm still so bitter about everything we've had to go through to get it thus point. It's just not fair. Infertility just sucks.
@Sunshine1810: thank you! Good luck with your next IVF cycle.
@Jenn23: I hope your ultrasound goes well
I am holding on here at 3dp5dt trying to be optimistic but realistic. I decided to test today to make sure the trigger shot is out, and it's gone, I'll probably keep testing because I'm POAS crazy, lol. My beta is next Friday, eek!
I also found out today that we have 4 frozen blasts. I feel super lucky about that
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@macintosh: Yay for frosties! But I hope this one is "the one"!
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@Jenn23: Thank you!
Are you excited about the prospect of multiples? I vacillate between thinking twins would would be wonderful (next time) and being frankly terrified...
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@macintosh: Four is fantastic! Well done! xxx
@Jenn23: Good luck! What a lovely feeling.
Lots of cycles hopefully starting soon. I just need a period to come... and we'll do our last frosty.
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@mrswin: @Mrs.Pinecone316: I think it's great for the recently successful women to stay around the thread for a while, and of course to pop in anytime during pregnancy and cheerlead and offer advice as other IVF bees start cycling. It's nice to know what we should all expect, from the first few weeks after getting those first doubling betas. I can imagine it's so hard to trust the pregnancy after you've been through such a struggle to get there, and this is definitely a safe space for you where you can talk through your fears without someone who doesn't know your history blowing the fears off. We all know what a gift these pregnancies are, and how delicate it feels like they are, at least at first. I do hope as time goes on, and we all have our successful pregnancies, we don't spend the entirety of them looking over our shoulders, always halfway expecting the next shoe to drop. I know that's going to be a struggle for me, once I do get pregnant. I don't want to hold myself back from truly experiencing the excitement of my (future) pregnancy because I'm so nervous about all the things that could possibly go wrong. I wonder if that's just something that all IVF grads have to work through.
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@Mrs.Pinecone316: thanks. Gotta remember that I would give up almost anything right now to have a baby in my arms and that includes a house.
@GreenThumb: I'm so sorry about your latest CP. To go through the process again must be so hard.
@Sunshine1810: yeah, I was wondering if jealousy will always be there. I wish it wasn't but I think IF changes your life and how you look at things.
@Jenn23: thank you! It's so hard.
@macintosh: oh, no! You had the bronchitis, too? I'm sorry. I have a little cough but it's nothing like how it was earlier this week. I saw the dr and they gave me antibiotics.
My DH has severe asthma so if he caught my bronchitis, we are pretty sure it would have put him in the hospital. But it is a miracle, I don't think he is getting it. I have no idea how we dodged that bullet. I was coughing so much and wasn't good with covering my mouth in those coughing fits.
Yeah, IF sucks. Hoping when we move, I'll move to a state that has IF coverage.
@macintosh: @Jenn23: @Sunshine1810:
@FliegepilzHut: We might be transfer twins if you have your transfer in Nov/Dec.
Sorry if I missed anyone else who needs
and I'm still learning the IVF terminology, though.
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@Sunshine1810: Congratulations for getting started with the Lupron! Are things set up pretty much the same as your last cycle, protocol wise? Good luck!!!!
@macintosh: Four frozen blasts is amazing news!!! So exciting! I hope you're feeling better-- I got bronchitis during stims of my last IVF cycle too-- the worst!
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@bluestriped bee: That would be nice!
I think we're going to target the time around Thanksgiving (because that's when DH can get off work). Do you have a timeline for your ER/retrieval?
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@FliegepilzHut: All I know is that it will be Oct/Nov. I'm hoping its in October.
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@bluestriped bee: Sounds good! Please keep us posted as you get your schedule. I'll be sending lots of good thoughts your way!
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@FliegepilzHut: Thanks! I will.
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Hey ladies! I'm 5dp5dt today. I think I got a BFP! Do you see it?
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@macintosh: It's faint, but YES! Did you say you tested out your trigger a couple of days ago? FX for you!
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@FliegepilzHut: Yaaay! I did test on 3dp and 4dp to make sure and they we're BFNs. Yesterday was my birthday and I'm so happy, but it doesn't feel real! I've never been pregnant, never seen 2 lines before! I can't believe it worked on the first try. Please stick, little bean!
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