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kiwi / 689 posts
Hello ladies... I'll be joining the IVF board this cycle. I go in for CD21 testing June 7th and if all is well, we'll begin the journey into IVF. I've had 4 failed iui's and am diagnosed as unexplained infertility. Today was a horrible day for me as AF arrived and I felt hopeless. As I sit here and read your experiences, I no longer feel alone.
pear / 1881 posts
@GreenThumb: I was offline yesterday and I'm sorry to hear about the vanishing twin. I'm thankful the other one is ok, but I know that doesn't lessen the pain any further. Thinking of you..
@PurplePumps: Lots of hugs coming your way as you move forward. I know that it will take time for the pain to lessen..
persimmon / 1132 posts
@LoveHope: I'm so sorry that you have to be here, but hopefully you will experience some relief in moving on to IVF. This board is incredible and there is so much support here!
pear / 1986 posts
@NorthStar: Thank you for your thoughts... as always with IF, taking it one day at a time. How are things going for you?!
@LoveHope: I'm sorry to hear that you have to join us, but I agree that it is so helpful to have the support of everyone here. Wishing you much success!!
pear / 1881 posts
@LoveHope: I wish you nothing but the best as you move forward onto IVF and know that this board is a great resource. We are here to support you! I completely understand the fear and heartache that goes with moving forward.
@GreenThumb: I'm doing good! I increased my estrogen yesterday and go for my next ultrasound on Tuesday the 24th. Overall, I am feeling good and am trying to do what I can to get my lining nice and thick so that we can stick with the May 31st transfer date. fingers crossed!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@LoveHope: Sorry you're here, but you're surrounded by a group of amazing ladies.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@LoveHope: Welcome, and I echo all of the other ladies that this is a place of tremendous support!
@NorthStar: May 31st will be here before you know it! xo
-No results today. Kind of annoyed but half expected it. I feel like deadlines and dates never get hit. But tonight I was told tomorrow morning, so we'll see.
kiwi / 689 posts
Thanks for the encouragement ladies.
I just spoke with my nurse and she said that they prefer we do ICSI during our IVF cycle but in order to have it covered under my insurance, my husband's semen analysis needs to test abnormal. He's already had a semen analysis that tested normal at a different facility, but they want him to test with them to see if his semen analysis is normal according to their standards. Is this something we really should do? I don't know too much about it.
pear / 1881 posts
@LoveHope: We didn't do ICSI because my husband's sperm is so good, but if it wasn't, it is only $1,000 more for our clinic. So, by the time you pay for another sperm analysis, I would just go for the ICSI either way since the fertilization rates are typically much better.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@LoveHope: We did icsi (it's almost standard at my RE's clinic) and had a really good fert report. Out of 13, 11 fertilized. Obviously I don't know what it would have been left to their own devices But I was very happy with that.
honeydew / 7463 posts
Well, got the results back during one of DS's classes. The embryo is abnormal. It took everything I had not to cry during the class.
I don't know why I let myself get excited or hopeful. I knew this was likely before we even ordered the re-PGD. But I feel so sad and now I just don't know what to do.
I kept telling myself that if it was abnormal it would be a sign to be one and done. And I think I can be ok with that. But I allowed myself to picture us as a family of 4, imagined holding a newborn again, imagined another nursery and watched videos of siblings playing. I should have just kept it all business, no emotion.
Back to the drawing board. God, I don't want to do this all again. Why? Why are we the ones (all of us) who have to go through this?
Sorry for the pity party. No one IRL knows we were doing this so I have no one else to vent to.
pear / 1986 posts
@SweetiePie: Oh, I am so sorry to hear about your results. I absolutely understand where you are coming from about hoping you could accept being a family of three, but once that darn bit of hope slips back in, it is hard to know when enough is enough. I'm hoping you can find peace and acceptance with whatever decision you make. It is all so incredibly sad and unfair.
@LoveHope: We did ICSI because DH had low morphology, but I would definitely at least have your DH do the semen analysis again and then decide. I've also heard of couples doing partial natural fertilization, partial ICSI if there are enough eggs retrieved to justify trying that. You are going through a lot with IVF, so it is important to make every decision count - even if you have to pay for it.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@SweetiePie: I am so so sorry about the PGD results. And I understand all you are feeling. I still can't shake the feeling of "why me" when I think of all I had to go through with the RE. I hope you can quickly figure out your next move and that its something you can be comfortable with. So sorry, lady.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@GreenThumb: @agold: Thank you both so much. Sometimes all you want to hear is "this sucks, I know how you feel".
On the positive side, my husband has been so kind today after hearing the news. He's usually very cut and dry and not very emotional (I was expecting a "see, I told you not to get your hopes up"), and he's just been so sweet with sending me little texts about how happy we'll be either way and what a great mom I am. I really needed that from him.
I know it'll be ok, its just trying to figure out what to do next that is the hard part.
pear / 1881 posts
@SweetiePie: I'm so sorry for your heartbreaking results Allow yourself to grieve whatever you imagined for your family as you decide if you will move forward or not. I can understand your feelings as we are approaching 3 years of trying for #2 and have our frozen transfer in under 2 weeks. I am not sure if we will proceed if it is not successful. On one hand, I cannot imagine not having one more child and on the other, I feel like this is taking over SO much of my life, that I want to enjoy things again (like vacations, our daughter, friends, etc.) {hugs}
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@SweetiePie: I think that the "i know how you feel" comment is one of the best and only comfort comments that us IF girls can give and receive. And kudos to your husband for stepping up and saying the right things at just the right time.
@NorthStar: I'm already thinking about LO#2 and I know I will be having the same feelings you just expressed. I'm thinking i will just do one IVF cycle and, if it doesn't work, resort back to fun sex and praying for a miracle.
pear / 1881 posts
@agold: I hear you..it's not fun having this take over your life. And fun sex, what is that?! This damn lupron and BCP have taken away all of my libido. ugh. I hope all is going well for you and that baby!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@NorthStar: Sadly, I still have yet to return to fun sex. That's a whole different story for a different thread! But baby is doing so well, I think! Thank you for the well wishes. I really wish you all the best as you move forward with your family plans.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
Speaking of sex... maybe TMI warning...
So with the Crinone, I was totally not feeling it, so we hadn't had sex since that started up like... 8-10 weeks ago? I stopped the Crinone after the scan last week and still wasn't feeling up for it for a few days. Then finally I was like, well, I cant change what happen, I might as well move on allow myself part of our relationship and intimacy again. So.. we tried, and holy crap, it hurt!! Like, he couldn't get more than an inch or two in and it was just sharp pain somewhere in there. This can't possibly be normal?? It didn't even hurt like this the first time when I was a virgin! I'm still on the 1-2 week nothing in there recovery period, but god I hope things get back to normal down there!
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: it might be that you're still dilated from the D&C? I think that's why they want nothing in there. Infection because you're "open" and maybe pain is the body's defense mechanism? Totally guessing!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@SweetiePie: I am so sorry. Such an awful feeling.
@PurplePumps: We had struggles after our d&c too. It took a good month to feel comfortable again. x
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@SweetiePie: @jaguar: oh, this was before the d&c that we tried. I still haven't tried since, and won't be for ay least another week. I'm paranoid and want to make sure in totally healed.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: ohhhhh ok. Well I'm glad that's the case because doing it after the D&C made me nervous!
Could it be the buildup from the crinone? I remember when I was on crinone if I had too much buildup and I tried to put a new one in (applicator) I'd hit resistance and it felt painful. And then I had to "clean out".
Also your cervix might have been irritated?
Definitely wait as long as you need to try again. I think it took me a couple of months post D&C to feel ready. If it's less for you, great. If it's more that's ok too!
kiwi / 501 posts
Hi Ladies!
I'll be doing my 1st round of IVF in July. I've been lurking here for awhile (I've had a strong feeling we would be lead down this path) and your stories are incredible. You are all such a strong and amazing group of women. I'm sorry to hear about some your struggles and I am sincerely praying for you all!
I have my IVF teaching class on Mon. That's where I'll get my schedule and all my list of meds. Any questions I should go in with?
@lovehope:
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@SweetiePie: all the crinone was gone after a day or two already, but maybe it just made that whole area sensitive. I don't think it was a sensitive cervix though cause he sure didn't make it in that far.... *need an embarrassed emoji* lol
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: Hmmm, not to be gross but...you felt up there? I used to put on a rubber glove and like scoop it out I was always shocked by how much was hiding up there. So gross.
But, you've had a lot going on down there for a while. I'm sure even normal pregnancy can make it sensitive, then add all of the extra crap we do to get and stay pregnant...angry vaginas, all of us!
Regardless, I hope your mind, heart and body heal soon.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@SweetiePie: hahaha. yeah.... i cleaned out most of it in the shower. usually i just clean out whats on the edge, but every few days... I did a .. uhhh... deep cleaning? that stuff is so gross. .but i still prefer it to the all day leaking of the endometrin!
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: "Deep cleaning". Gotta find the humor where you can, I suppose.
I never had to do endometrin, so you got me there.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@SweetiePie: @PurplePumps: omg, ladies. Laughter through the tears. You know you've been through hella IVF when... Someone should start that list.
@PurplePumps: I do think the Crinone would make it more tender down there. Higher P right before my period (even in a natural cycle before IVF) I think made that happen before for me.
@agold: I know you were on pelvic rest for awhile. Are you still? My poor DH. We haven't done it regularly in a looong time. BCPs, Lupron, stimming, over-stimming, freaking-out ovaries, Crinone, early BFP paranoia... Now I'm just uncomfortable (20+w). We snuck in a session here and there but IVF and the MFI diagnosis, in a more psychological way for him, have really screwed with our sex life. Next up: a kiddo! We'll get back there. I just feel guilty.
@SweetiePie: I'm sorry about.the news on your embie. You can unload here all you want and need. I'm so glad your DH is being emotionally present for you. We all know it's not most guys' forte. I also know no one IRL who has gone through this (or any kind of IF) so I felt/feel so alone except here among ladies who have been there. My LO #1 is only half-cooked but I'm 99.9% sure we will be one and done, due to my age and MFI and having IVF as our only option. There are no more snowbabies and there won't be a "reset" or a super swimmer surprise!! Let alone the grueling physical and emotional aspects, doing IVF all again and paying oop for decreased odds is pretty much unthinkable. This effects me and saddens me more than I really want to admit. Like you, I feel pretty alone in the IF reality. Most people at my age are done and/or are content with their gaggle of kids and are preventing future pregnancies... not quietly pining for what might have been and not have had much of a choice in the matter. I'm so grateful that I am pregnant, so grateful IVF was even an option for us and really just hoping that all will continue to go well...but I also foresee some therapy for me around this whole issue... Sending you lots of
@NorthStar: Thinking about and your upcoming FET!
@LoveHope: We for sure did ICSI because our main challenge was MFI. I'd have your DH test again just to have the confirmation, but I probably would also pay OOP for ICSI -- and anything else that might increase the odds -- if I were you.
@Winnie13: Sorry that you have to do IVF but welcome and best of luck to you! I never attended a class but I'd just make sure you know who/how you can have any post-class questions answered. Something(s) will inevitably come up! I had one nurse who all my q's went through and was happy we could handle most things via email.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@NorthStar: @jaguar: @Amorini: Thanks, girls, for the kind words. Seriously so comforting to know I'm not totally alone in this. Yay, internet friends!
@Winnie13: Welcome to the board! Wish you didn't have to be here, but I'm sure you'll find all the support you need. Good luck with your July cycle. I'm sure we'll hear more about it as the weeks go by, and we'll be here to answer as many questions as possible!
I had my son via IVF 20 months ago so I've been MIA for a while and am just getting back in the groove as I try to sort out what to do next. That's the ultra short version.
kiwi / 501 posts
Thank you ladies!! I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll have a 1000 questions once I get my schedule and all my meds! I'm familiar with some of the IVF "stuff" as my SIL has done 4 fresh IVF's and 1 frozen. She is about to do her 2nd frozen in July. She has had 2 miscarriages and 2 chemicals and she still has the strength to move forward. I definitely am looking to her during these next couple of months. Not that I would wish this path on anyone, but it's comforting to be going through a cycle together.
@purplepumps: I'm so sorry to read about your loss. Praying for your healing physically and emotionally.
@sweetiepie: I'm so sorry about your embie! Praying you have some direction on what to do next.
@greenthumb: I'm sorry to hear about your twin. Praying for you and your sweet baby!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@Amorini: Hey!! How are you doing??? And yes, I was on pelvic rest for quite a while. My OB was wishy washy about whether I should resume having sex. DH and I did once, and I bled the next day. That was fairly horrific, even though I had been bleeding so much prior. Fast forward a few weeks and we tried again. TMI warning - so I just wanted to start easy, and he felt he was smashing the baby, and then other ways we normally like just didn't feel right to me. I was upset saying "you are NOT smashing they baby!" But in the end I felt bad because why couldn't I just get on board with the other positions? And we are just scarred from the bleeding I had after we tried the last time. It sucks. I feel like I want it more than him at this point! Like you, I know we will get back to our fun selves. I just hope it happens soon!!
honeydew / 7463 posts
@agold: Girl, I feel you. When I was pregnant I was horny All. The. Time. But he just wasn't into it. He felt like he would poke the baby. And I had to explain that in order to poke the baby he needed a 12 inch penis. Spoiler alert: a 12 inch penis he does not have. And I think he was hurt when I said that because in their own minds, all men have a foot-long weiner.
ETA: now I feel bad, it's more than fine. But...not enough to poke a baby in the head.
So, we basically went a year without sex (pregnancy plus a few months after I wasn't into it). But we eventually got back in the groove. And then out again. We've always had ebbs and flows in that department (it's been 17 years of togetherness, enough said) so we're ok with it.
You guys will be ok too
pear / 1881 posts
@agold: Oh my gosh, how scary with the bleeding! I think that it's very normal to be horny while pregnant due to the high estrogen. But then it makes it that much more difficult when DH doesn't feel the same way You will get back in the grove eventually. Plus, in a few months when you are closer to your due date, you can have some fun in hopes that they baby will come!
@SweetiePie: ugh - over a year without sex. that isn't fun! I think that we were close and only DTD 5 or 6 times during the year after our DD was born. Currently, we haven't DTD since before my last retrival, around mid-March. I really want to, but the Lupron and BCP took away my libido. I'm usually the horny one and my husband does not initiate often, so of course now that I'm not initiating, we haven't done it. ugh. Hopefully this weekend as I'm getting sick of none! Tomorrow is my last Lupron shot, so maybe that will make a difference?!
honeydew / 7463 posts
@NorthStar: do we have the same husband? I hope not Same situation where I am always the initiator and he'll always oblige, But he doesn't initiate. Like maybe once a year he will, haha. It's funny, that's his personality with everything. Even going out to dinner with friends or taking a guy trip - he'll never start the conversation, but if someone says "hey lets go get drinks tomorrow" he'll always say yes. He jokes that socially he's not a leader, he's a follower. But at work he's the total opposite, he's the head of his department.
Anyway, off topic. I digress.
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