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The New York Times on "Is Breast-Feeding Really Better?"

  1. junebugmama

    nectarine / 2019 posts

    @MsLipGloss: @mrsjyw: I think it's similar though to feeding all organic solids for instance. Studies show that organic and natural foods are better for us, in the same way that most breastfeeding studies do.

    The guilt that is felt is an internal concept that needs to be dealt with by each individual. I know there have been posts here on HB, by Moms who feed their children McDonald's and say they don't talk about it because they believe everyone here will judge them. The Mom guilt issue is something that is inherent in us, for whatever reason.

  2. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    @junebugmama: I 100% agree with you that it is the same comparison and that the mom guilt is an overarching issue that we all face for whatever parenting choices we make. But, I think you can also agree that the age-old BF vs FF mama war is a HUGE one compared to other mamaguilt-ridden difference of opinions. And one that is shoved down our mom throats from all angles. You're choosing to question this article's integrity (when so few exist like this) aids the "BREAST IS BEST" saying that is shoved down FFing mamas throats CONSTANTLY.

    And I say this as a mom who EBF my child.

  3. junebugmama

    nectarine / 2019 posts

    @mrbee: When my son was born, I did not have enough supply to support his need. I had a pediatrician who continued to tell me that my son was ok and that my supply would catch up, even though I kept questioning, calling and making appointments. Meanwhile he had lost 16% of his body weight. I made a choice the same night that pediatrician told me that my son was ok and "it looked like my milk had come in" to supplement, because my Mommy instinct was greater than any need I had to successfully breastfeed. So even though I am an advocate of breast milk, I am an advocate of feed your baby first, trust your motherly instinct because it is a real thing, and supporting all Mother's in their choice.

  4. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @junebugmama: Nope, not the same. There are several obvious barriers to organic foods . . . availability and price being among them. That's not the case with BFing . . . it is presumed that all women have equal access to BFing . . . I am sure you can connect the dots from that point.

    And yes, guilt is an internal concept . . . but would that guilt exist--or exist to this degree--but for the constant onslaught of *breast is best* mob mentality antics? Nope. Not even a chance. The vast majority of these advocates/studies/campaigns are DESIGNED to prey upon that guilt and EXPLOIT it. Period.

  5. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @mrsjyw: Exactly. And I also exclusively BF until my LO was almost 5 months, and then needed to start supplementing. I BF morning and night (and on demand on the weekends) until LO was 15 months.

  6. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    While guilt is something we feel internally, it only comes about when we are made to feel/believe/think our choices are not the "correct" ones. It is the external definition of "correct" that manifests the feelings. Without it, there wouldn't be guilt.

  7. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @junebugmama: i haven't seen anyone argue that breast milk is not preferable, if it's possible. And for what it's worth, recent research actually indicates that there is no health difference between organic and conventional foods. There is a lot of research, saying a lot of things. People clearly align themselves with the research that they agree with.

  8. hummusgirl

    persimmon / 1233 posts

    @junebugmama: I think the key is that this is about outcomes, which is important because many moms have somehow gotten the impression there are severe negative long-term consequences to formula-feeding, and that just doesn't seem to be the case. If someone wants to breastfeed, she should do so with a complete picture of what it can and cannot do.

    I agree that natural, organic, whole foods are best in concept, but if a study came out that showed people who were exclusively-Pop-Tart-fed turned out just as healthy as natural-food-fed people, then that would be interesting and welcome. Doesn't mean I wouldn't still eat fresh foods.

    Gahhh now I've compared formula to Pop Tarts which is NOT what I'm saying (my LO was EFF from 7 weeks). But you get the idea.

  9. daniellemybelle

    cantaloupe / 6669 posts

    I think it should be obvious that human milk is best for human babies. You'd never say dog's milk is best for baby cows, for example.

    Having said that, I'm glad that, like someone else said, some sanity has been brought the conversation. Formula fed babies can & will turn out just fine. As a mom who has had to supplement with formula & has felt enormous shame and guilt, I am very grateful for this study!

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