My 8 month old sleeps 7:30-6:30 but is still getting up once every night between 3-5am to nurse. He seems hungry, taking both sides. It's not that big of a deal and I'm sort of afraid to "train" him to not do this, so I'm wondering if maybe soon he will just stop waking...?
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6 months the doctor gave us permission to start weaning MOTN feeds. It was glorious.
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We dropped MOTN feeding after her 9 month well visit.
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E dropped them on his own at 10months. From about 7 months on he was down to just one time and I think he was waking up mostly out of habit
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Around 4 months we increased all of his bottles by an ounce. LO dropped MOTN waking on his own because he was going to bed fuller.
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My older one dropped it on her own at 9 months. I had tried weaning her off of t before and she was more stubborn than me so I let her do it on her time.
My baby is 9 months and still wakes up once most nights, rarely twice or none. I'm ready for her to drop it but not ready to force it.
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Ds1 did it on his own sometime around 9 months and DS2 (8.5 months old) is still doing one feeding around the same time. Between 3-5am
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DD1 and DD2 dropped it naturally around three months. DD3 dropped it at three months then added one around five months and then moved it from 4am to 9pm. Then dropped it. Then had an awful 8 month regression up every 1-2 hours and nursing for most of those wakeups. And now no wakeups again.
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Around 4 months he was waking in the same time range you mentioned (3-5am) and without us even prompting the ped told us at his well-visit he didn't need the feeding and to start weaning it if we were so inclined. We were. Haha.
She mentioned that he may be hungry but he's not waking because he's hungry, he's waking out of habit and then saying "oh yeah I'm hungry". ie if we as adults were to randomly wake up at 4am we might feel hungry too. But our bodies/brains say "it's not time to eat it's time to sleep" so we go back to sleep. They need that help/need to learn that it's sleep time not eating time.
I understand that doesn't jive with everyone's philosophy, but to me it made a lot of sense. -
@pachamama: I weaned DD around 9 months because she seemed to naturally have pushed the wake up to between 4:30 and 5 am (8pm bed time) and I felt like it she could make it until then she would be ok until 6:30 or 7am. At that age she was 20lbs and the pediatrician felt she was more than fine to drop the feed.
I did it over Christmas break so that if needed I could nap during the day. When she woke for the feeding I just went in and soothed her by rubbing her back or if she was really upset I would rock her for a few minutes. It was relatively painless.
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Both kids stopped waking up MOTN around 5-6 weeks. Both peds were fine with letting them STTN since they had both been gaining weight at a steady clip.
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With DD1 i stopped MoTN feedings at 18 months. DD2 is 4 months and up until I went back to work 2 weeks ago has been STTN since about 2 months, so I may actually try to actively night wean her much earlier than I did with my first. I'll probably try once she starts eating more from the bottle during the day or when she starts solids, whichever comes first.
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I weaned DS at 12 months. He was comfort nursing for awhile MOTN, but I was too exhausted to deal with it so I just let him do it. lol
Pedi said after 6 months, they no longer need to eat MOTN. I'll probably wean DD around 12 months also, unless she drops it on her own. She's hit and miss with it now.
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She dropped it on her own at 10 months.
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I didn't until 15 months! I think my breast storage capacity was medium-ish. If you have a smaller or medium capacity (versus large) you may need night feedings to keep your supply up. It helped to keep my supply up and is probably the reason I was able to EBF the full year. At 15 months I was done with night nursing (just 1x) so I weaned her at night. But we continued nursing 2x a day (at the minimum) until I weaned her at 25mo.
Some babies don't need to nurse at night, but depending on your physiology, I believe some may need to. Someone with a small capacity could hurt their supply by night weaning too early.
http://www.nancymohrbacher.com/articles/2014/1/17/infographic-on-breast-storage-capacity.htmlBTW, I tried earlier to let her fuss/cry around 8-9mo and she carried on fussing and crying on and off for HOURS. It just wasn't worth it to continue. So I just came back to it later and she was more ready. I basically did whatever got me the most sleep at night- which was bringing her to bed with me to nurse at 3am, falling asleep, and then waking up an hour or so later and putting her back in her crib asleep.
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@pachamama: dd was about 3 months and ds is going on one year and still waking up. There was a short period he slept through not every night but a good amount but then he stopped. He drinks the whole bottle so I have no idea what's going on. I know the dr is going to say drop it but if we don't give it he screams and he and dd share a room so it's difficult. Ugh.
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My 6 month old goes down at 7:30, gets a bottle at 11, and then sleeps until 7:30. We are planning to start inching that bottle up until he doesn't need it at all. We did this with his sister (now almost 2.5) and it worked extremely well with her.
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DD dropped it on her own just before 4 months.
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It depends on what you mean by MOTN.
For both my kids, I did a dream feed around 9:00 p.m. in order to get them to sleep through the night (when I was sleeping). We dropped that around 9 months. They continued to eat at 5:00 a.m. until they weaned (14.5 and 12.5 months).
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At 2 months, LO woke between 5-6 am and needed to eat. By 3 months she slept til 6 and we had to get up then anyway. We didn't do any training for that luckily! But by 6 months I certainly would be training to drop that feed, as long as your LO is growing well.
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DD1 woke up 1-2x a night to eat & go back to sleep until she was 9m old. Then she dropped it on her own and started sleeping 7p-7a.
DD2 dropped her last MOTN feed on her own at 6m, would sleep 6p-6a, but then started up with 1 MOTN feed again around 9m. I just went with it for ~2m, but then decided it was nuts and she didn't really need it since she had been sleeping through before. I let her fuss for about 10min one night instead of going down right away, she went back to sleep, and has slept through ever since.
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E dropped his MOTN feeding on his own right before he turned one. It was easier to go in and nurse him for 10 minutes once a night than to try to wean him. Also, I think it was important for keeping my supply up.
My 7 month old still nurses 2-3 times per night... but that's mostly for comfort.
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DD2 is 6.5 Mos now and has more or less dropped it. She normally sleeps until sometime between 5/6am, then back to bed until 7:30.
Sometimes (like last night) she gets up around 4 to eat, but then sleeps until 7:30...
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13 months.
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I night weaned my baby at 9 months, but she wasn't ready, and it didn't stick. We just tried again at 13 months and it was clear that she was more ready at that point.
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Still going strong with 2 quick feedings at 10 months. He seems hungry (doesn't eat that rest at daycare) and I'm ok with it for now
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@pachamama: when he was 2. i knew once i weaning that the MOTN waking would become the AWAKE FOR THE DAY time when I weaned, and this is why I waited so long. It turned out to be true for us (and very sad for me).
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DS naturally (mostly) night weaned at 9m. I think there was 1 or 2 times I let him CIO because I knew he didn't really need to eat. But that was after he'd started STTN without eating on his own. I will say, in order for DS to sto eating at night we really had to up his daytime good. So yeah, people might say babies don't need to eat over night. But that should be caveated with the fact that they need to eat enough during the day.
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My 16 month old still breastfeeds 3x overnight...once around 10:30/11 when I go to bed, once around 1:30am, and once around 4am.
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10 weeks, and boy was I engorged for a day or three. I woke up and almost woke him at 6 am to stop the pain. I was on vacation and didn't have a pump.
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@oliviaoblivia: you are giving me hope....DS2 is currently up at least 3 times a night, i feel like i have a newborn again!
DS1 dropped his MOTN feed around 13 months. I am holding out hope that DS2 doesn't take longer than that.
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My big girl dropped her night feed at around 18-ish months or so and my little guy still has an early morning feed at the same age. He can (and occasionally does) sleep through the night but he doesn't always eat enough calories during the day and some nights I think he just wants to be close!
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14 mo has mostly stopped eating at night, although a few times a week she will spent the last 30-60 minutes of her night dozing on my boob. But I would say around 9 months she's been mostly done with night feedings.
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@kiddosc: that's what I feel like,it'd be easier to nurse him once for 15 mins then wean him. I work full time so I don't see him a ton. So I don't mind, but I just didn't know if 8 months was super late.
@sarac: good to know! My son does not eat a lot at daycare so maybe he is hungry. Who knows! -
DS1 slept from 1030pm dreamfeed to 730am beginning at 3 months. He went from 730pm-730am at 4.5 months.
DS2 slept from 1030pm dreamfeed to 730am beginning at 8 weeks. He went from 730pm-730am at 3.5 months.
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DS dropped the last MOTN feeding right at 8 months. Once he did, he woke up earlier for a while (like 5:30ish) and then right around a year settled into a nice 7-7 schedule.
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