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TTC After Loss Part II

  1. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: Thinking of you mama
    I know this is such a tough place to be but I'm glad you are feeling OK about everything.

  2. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @mrskansas: alright lady some poas pics for you I am continuing to be confused. I poas on frer and wondfo when I got home. Both looked bfn at 5m. Came back later and wondfo looked legit positive and frer was dead white. Is this just the worst batch of wondfos ever? Or is it catching something too low for the frer? I know you shouldn't read after 10m but it has always been indicative of something going on for me.

    So the pic is top - dipped in water because I wondered if they all got evaps (looks white) Middle - fmu super squinter
    Bottom - afternoon



  3. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: For me personally, I have found that FRERs come up darker than wondfos, even with faint squinters, so I'd be a bit hesitant to trust the wondfo if the frer came up negative, especially if it's only showing up after the window. Definitely not inconceivable though that it could also just be super sensitive. I'm sorry for the limbo.

  4. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: oh yeah my assumption is worst wondfos ever. I should look up the lot number.

  5. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: Ugh how confusing. Had you not taken a FRER I'd say those are positive. I'd say to test again in the morning with a FRER!

  6. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    Well I primed some new frers so at least I'll be prepared if this is still going on by the weekend (or for next month). now I will spend my evening googling ๐Ÿ™„

  7. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: Ugh, stupid wondfo limbo. Stuff like this makes (crazy) me fantasize about an oops.

  8. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    Why did I buy this. Damn Target and my lack of self control



  9. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @mrskansas: awwwww

  10. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    @mrskansas: that is adorable. I think I would have had the same lack of self control if I saw that one.

  11. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @mrskansas: aww that speaks to all of us

    As for me, as expected the evaps have it! And thankfully I don't feel upset. Maybe a little relieved to not have a bfp that would bring extra worry.

    Oh and ticked my wondfos aren't great. I can't exactly call them faulty but I've never watched the timeframe on them and never had a problem before! I woke up at 4:30 so I dipped two wondfos and the frer as an experiment. I later got a bfn frer, a barely there shadow wondfo, and a reasonable line wondfo. I think I'm going to have to stick to waiting and using a frer which is better for mental health anyway.

    Also I got a good number on the scale this morning after working hard on my eating all week. Nice consolation prize to be back on track and have time to do more for myself!

  12. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: What is it with the weird Wondfos lately?? That's frustrating... sorry you had to deal with that!

    A drop on the scale is great though! It's so motivating to see hard work pay off.

  13. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: Boo, I hate using FRERs because, as if a bfn isn't depressing enough, I always think "and I just wasted money on this stupid pee stick." But yeah, wondfos seem awful lately. So sorry this happened. Yay for good eating, though!

  14. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    @bhbee: I use BlueCROSS cheapies - 50 for $19 here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJTTWJA/ I've never gotten an evap with them (even hours or days later). They're labeled as 10mIU sensitivity (and they did read clearly positive when I had a beta of 9). At 38ยข/ea, I feel allowed to test each and every time I pee if I want to.

    On the other hand, they don't show line progression. My tests with a beta of 9 look pretty much the same as 300 or 2200.

  15. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @lilyofthewest: thank you for the tip! Actually a line that is just yes or no sounds pretty good to me! Not that I need more tests ...

  16. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    Can I move my whinging and anxiety here from the August POAS board? I had a natural SAB with a blighted ovum at the end of April, and then a D&C for another failed pregnancy at the end of June.

    I'm currently pregnant-ish, but not feeling at all hopeful about it. I had spotting and negative pregnancy tests August 1s & 2nd, I stopped testing when my temp tanked and I got my period on August 3rd. I had what seemed like a pretty typical period.

    I started doing CBE Advanced OPKs on the 8th/CD6. On the 9th/CD7, I had a peak reading, and a cheapie OPK was also positive. Cheapie OPK was still super positive the next morning. While I've ovulated on CD12 a few times, it has never been *that* early. My surge is also usually short -- positive at night and only sometimes still positive the next morning -- so it was weird that my OPK was still a very strong positive a full 24h later.

    I did a pregnancy test just in case on the morning of Thursday the 9th -- immediately positive. I also did a CBE weeks test that came up 2-3 weeks.

    No one could get me in for betas until Monday. So, I had betas Monday & Wednesday. Between Thursday and Monday, I had a little bit more bleeding, my temps stayed low, and my CBE weeks test went down to 1-2 weeks. So, I was very much expecting my betas to be falling.

    But they're not. Monday's was 306, Wednesday's (about 39 hours later) was 535.

    I don't feel happy or excited though. I feel frustrated and irritated about feeling a little hopeful again; it still seems so unlikely that this could be a good pregnancy.



  17. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm sorry you're in such a confusing situation... I've been there myself so I get how tough it is.

    Are they going to repeat the beta today?

  18. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @lilyofthewest: you can come here to vent anything at anytime for sure! this is totally the board for that.

    I'm so sorry you're going through this limbo. It's natural to be hopeful when you're getting conflicting news. I mean heck I was 5% hopeful with my evaps even though I knew there was absolutely no way. I know it's so hard that the only answer is wait and see. Are you getting another beta? Will they do an ultrasound at some point? Hugs and good wishes for you

  19. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm really sorry for the limbo, this sucks, and I'm sure all the more after previous losses. Thinking of you.

    Not to give false hope, but I would not put too much stock in the CB weeks estimator. For me they have been way out of line with quantitative hcg readings, even though I used super concentrated urine - like I think the last one I used my hcg was more than four times greater than the threshold for the 3+ cutoff, and yet it still said 2-3.

  20. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    @bhbee: @mrskansas: Another beta Monday. The practice I'm seeing won't do ultrasound unless/until beta over 2000 or a trend (or symptoms) concerning for ectopic.

    I'm debating asking a colleague to do a sono for me at work tomorrow. I already had coworkers involved in the last two duds, but, I feel more guarded about it now for some reason.

  21. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    I think I'm done feeling hopeful again. In the 30m trip home from work I went from no bleeding to bleeding through my underwear and pants. Ugh.

  22. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm so sorry. Take care of yourself and come here anytime you need someone to talk/vent to! Lots of hugs

  23. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm so, so sorry

  24. MrsJBeeG

    clementine / 787 posts

    Help!

    My DH and I are ttc. Had a really weird AF last week - very light (more like spotting pink and brown) the first 24 hours with nothing over night, then a few heavier hours in the afternoon (but still lighter than normal for me) and then it stopped in less than 48 hours with nothing the second night. I tend to bleed heavy right from the start for three days and nights and then it completely stops. I can't recall spotting ever. Then it stopped for two days but I just got several dark brown spots this morning right after a short and light cramping session on the right aide. And my boobs are so tender to the touch, feeling nausea at random times and sometimes a bit lightheaded.

    I assumed I'm out. Took a pregnancy test on Sunday and nothing during the window. I see a faint something now but assume it's an evaporative line.

    My question is - do I test later in the week or should maybe I see my doctor? I figured I'm out with bleeding - as light and weird as it was. I don't want to get my hopes up. But normally my boobs stop hurting once AF shows and the other hormone related symptoms (that I always hope are pregnancy related) fade quickly too.

    So I'm confused and concerned. Thinking that probably need to see the doctor and rule out anything serious. But wondering if I wait till the end of the week and test again?

    Edited to add - after my may loss, my next cycle was 40 days long but followed my normal AF pattern as did July. I don't know if hormones are still funky from the loss but everything seemed to settled back into my normal groove in june and July.

    Any advice would be so welcome as I'm so confused here.

  25. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: sorry for the confusion. my experience is one weird period they're not going to do much, I would wait and see how the next cycle goes, but never hurts to call the nurse if you're concerned. are you sure you ovulated? could have been anovulatory hence the weird bleeding? I definitely think it can change after a loss or even just randomly - I had a cycle a year ago where I bled red (but not quite a period) from 4dpo on and eventually got a real af - I did get that checked out but nothing came of it and my next cycle was normal and I haven't had another like that (though I do spot a ton as my normal, that was really weird).

    and never hurts to test again later though I think you're right not to get your hopes up. bodies are so weird, hugs

  26. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    I made my annual OB appt today for mid-October. thinking I will ask about an IUD at that visit and at least figure out the process . . . see what happens with September at least, maybe I can test in October before going too but it would be pre-AF in case that matters for the IUD process.

    I'm still conflicted about whether to be done or not if we get to that point. my head says yes, some days my heart says yes, and some days my heart says no way get me a baby to squish. I guess seeing my nephew when he's born in 2 weeks could be telling. I think it's never really going to be clear though.

  27. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm sorry I hope your beta today gives you more information.

  28. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: It's such a tough place to be. My head and my heart have been in agreement for the most part lately except for some moments, where, like you, my heart hurts for another baby.
    I don't have any advice since I still struggle but you are not alone in how you're feeling

  29. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @MrsJBeeG: I'm sorry, I think frustratingly enough it's pretty normal for cycles to take a while to regulate after a loss. For me, I think acupuncture helped my cycle to go back to normal (which still varied quite a bit in length and flow from month to month). Of course, it doesn't hurt to test again if you think something is up.

    @bhbee: I'll be thinking of you and hoping for clarity (or better yet, a ) soon.

  30. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @mrskansas: @periwinklebee: thanks ladies. It's cd1 and the first day of kinder (with tears from both me and dd!) so it's not exactly my most clear headed day

  31. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @lilyofthewest: thinking of you

  32. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @bhbee: aw I would be a wreck! I hope she has a great day though! Hugs mama.

  33. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: aw, I hope that she warms up to it quickly. And between CD1 and your oldest starting kinder, I hope mama finds a way to treat herself today.

  34. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    My husband just told me we should make an eclipse baby.
    Yeah, if only it were that easy...

  35. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    Got a 3rd beta drawn this morning. On the one hand I'm feeling more-and-more pregnant (aka pukey and exhausted) and the bleeding was only moderate/heavy for the 20-30minutes. On the other hand, I'm still spotting. Between this and the last two pregnancies, I've already had more than a full first trimester. I'm pretty over feeling tired and gross with nothing to show for it yet.

  36. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    Still waiting for my beta result. I've already called 2x without getting a return call yet. I'm really tempted to believe this means it is a normal rise; I'd hope they'd call me first thing or at least call me back promptly if it wasn't.

  37. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @lilyofthewest: fingers crossed for you!

  38. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    No news did not mean good news. Beta went from 535 to 719 in 5 days. Another draw tomorrow and a visit on Friday. Aside from being frustrating and sad and generally sucky...this is the worst timing. I'm supposed to leave for a vacation on Saturday morning. I do not want to spend a week on vacation exhausted, nauseaus, and half-pregnant/waiting to miscarry.

  39. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm so, so sorry

  40. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @lilyofthewest: I'm so sorry. I hope you can figure out a path forward this week that won't be too awful. So many hugs

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