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  1. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    Cross-posting:

    Okay guys. I'm a bit confused.
    Found out we lost our baby at 8 weeks on July 31, my D&C was August 5th (5.5 weeks ago). I started temping maybe 2 weeks after the D&C; discarded a few high/pregnancy temps.
    I got dotted crosshairs saying I O'd this past Friday (4 weeks post D&C) which could have been accurate but I have no idea. I also slept in super late this weekend so not sure I trust it. I started having some brown spotting yesterday, all day, so assumed I was going to get AF today and the crosshairs were wrong.
    Then my temp shot up this morning and no sign of AF. WTF?
    Is it even possible to get a BFP 6 weeks post-miscarriage??? I mean i know it's biologically possible but really don't know if I shouldn't get my hopes up...... thoughts appreciated on this one....
    Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3cf794

  2. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @JoJoGirl: that's a tricky one since you aren't entirely confident about the O date. I will say though that my sister had MCs twice, both around 7-8 weeks (natural though no D&C) and was pregnant both times about 6 weeks later. So it's of course possible. Keeping my FX crossed for you. At 7dpo it could be IB? Did you have any other signs to confirm O? When are you going to test?

  3. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @catomd00: Yes I was thinking IB as well. No other signs to confirm O... I'll probably test on Monday? If I don't get AF before then. Interesting about your sis.

  4. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    Today is 6 weeks post m/c and still no AF. I'm having such a hard time today.

  5. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @JoJoGirl: just saw your post - sorry you're having a hard time! The tww is brutal sometimes...but hopefully you get some answers soon!

  6. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @JoJoGirl: I'm sorry you're having such a hard day. the waiting is just the worst. We are all here for you! Hang in there.

  7. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Nutella: @catomd00: Thanks guys. I think she's finally here today. I must have been PMSing, literally cried all day. *sigh*

  8. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @JoJoGirl: I'm so sorry, the waiting is just the worst. My PMS for the first couple of cycles after AF returned was INSANE, hormones are no joke especially after a loss.

  9. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @noelani: Thanks - confirmed I got AF today (yay?), so I'm sure that's what was going on yesterday. I was a HOT MESS.

  10. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @JoJoGirl: I had a hot mess moment yesterday, too! Good for your period to come back-it made me feel better once I got mine and could see a timeline.

  11. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    @JoJoGirl: yay AF! Better than nothing right?! Onto a new cycle. Sending lots of luck your way!

  12. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @JoJoGirl: I reckon it's a yay! Sorry it wasn't a bfp instead - but at least this way you know there's a new cycle starting and all systems are go! I also reckon I had crazy moods leading up to AF..was pretty teary and generally shitty at the world.

    I'm looking forward to this new 'fertile' cycle. I'm still so mad though, I spent 12m + EBFing and then monitored cycles since then, thought I knew what my body was doing finally & now I feel like I'm back to guessing when the fertile window is etc. I'm just hoping body goes back to normal...

  13. runnerd

    pear / 1593 posts

    @JoJoGirl: well looks like I get to join and say AF seems to be making appearance tonight. Just a little over 5 weeks out from m/c.

    I suddenly feel torn. Am I ready to go through this again? (The TTC, the worry, the anxiety) *sigh*

  14. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @runnerd: I feel exactly the same!! I thought I was ready but not so sure. DH is super keen though, which is why I'm not completely off the idea. I'm finally starting to eat better and exercise properly, so I weirdly feel like if I'm lucky enough to get pregnant, all of that will go out the window with first trimester symptoms etc.

  15. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @catomd00: Thanks!!!
    @Nutella: Yay indeed. And yes, i'm glad to actually be back in TTC-land. Not post-D&C land.

    @runnerd: *hugs* I know. It's so hard, but better than waiting after D&C, I think. You can always take a break, too, if it's too hard to start over.

  16. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    So just wondering if anyone has had random spotting days after AF finished? I was not expecting that as I'm more expecting ovulation sometime later this weekend/next week. I don't usually have mid-cycle spotting so should I just chalk this up to post-d&c madness?! Thanks in advance!

  17. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Nutella: Not sure, but this has been the longest/heaviest period I've ever had. So all bests are off, I think.

  18. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @Nutella: I've had mid-cycle spotting for the past three cycles, something I'd NEVER experienced prior to my loss. For me it's happening later in the cycle, closer to CD18-20. I've wondered if it's post-ovulation bleeding, bc it's happening several days after I've noticed a day of strong cramping. But nothing about my cycle or my body makes sense to me anymore, it's all crazy town. Like @JoJoGirl: my recent periods have been INSANELY heavy.

  19. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @noelani: OH you reminded me, I did too. I spotted on 9dpo this cycle - which is why I thought I was pregnant! And it was red, not brown, so actual bleeding. Weird but I guess common?

  20. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    thinking of all of you today

  21. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    Are people still around? How's everyone doing?

    Another bfn for us this month. I'm pretty sad and frustrated, especially because 1) I expected to be pregnant again by now and 2) I'm constantly surrounded by friends who are either already have #2 or are preggo.

  22. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @Zbug: I am still here and could have written your comment word-for-word. DH and I were trying to plan a weekend getaway and every couple we came up with to go with us is pregnant! About a dozen couples. It's insane!

  23. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Zbug: @LibbyLou: feeling your pain ladies....we got a bfn this month & not going to lie, I cried and was in a horrible funk for a few days. I just started thinking of how unfair all of this is, even though I know we have had a very easy ride relatively speaking. I still can't believe how much time has passed since we first found out we were pregnant in EARLY JULY!!! And here we are a million years later with still no pregnancy! when I had my first new cycle start after the d&c I was actually excited and optimistic about it working, since we are more fertile post-mc, but that really made the bfn all the worse. So yes, still feeling heartbroken over here. But hopeful for the next cycle - may it bring us all some happy news!

  24. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts

    I'm still here too! Also struggling with the fact that EVERY one is pregnant!! literally. The only people who aren't pregnant already have a newborn!

    I got a positive OPK and had ewcm last Friday morning. We could onl dtd that night because we went away to visit family for the weekend. Hopefully we timed it ok. Blahhhh. Struggling that I should have been like 22 weeks and I'm 0 weeks.

    Hugs ladies.

  25. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: oh lady, I'm hoping this is your month too. One thing that should have helped me (but didn't because I preferred to be crazy!) in the tww, was that whether you worry or not, outcome is still the same. So hopefully you get to chill with some good wine or something this week! Fingers crossed!

  26. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    Fertility friend gave me crosshairs for Tuesday! This is my first cycle post miscarriage, and we are waiting until I get my period back before we TTC again....so I've been hoping for a quick and relatively normal cycle this month. I'm not entirely sure I believe FF because things have been a bit unusual, but it did make me really, really happy to see the cross hairs show up today!

  27. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    Glad people are still around! Well wish there were more sticky babies, but it's nice to hear from you all.

    On one hand, I want to step away from my friends for a bit. It's really painful to see my friend who is due a week after I would have been. All people talk about is having two kids. On the other hand, I don't want to hang out alone all the time, and dd would miss her friends. It sucks.

    @Nutella: I know exactly how you feel. I get optimistic after ovulation but then it all comes crashing down again.

    @Mrs. Champagne: keeping fingers crossed for you!

    @Silva: that's exciting! Good luck.

  28. everbee

    cherry / 101 posts

    *sigh...i'm in the same boat too. it's by 5th cycle after i gave birth and lost my baby. i really hoped to be pregnant again by now too...the group of friends that i have that is younger than me is starting to get pregnant and it's pretty disheartening...wondering who else who 4-7 years younger than me is going to get pregnant next. most of the my aged friends have their two kids and are done...it's hard...and every TWW is killer...

    @zbug : i totally know what you mean. a friend of mine was due about a month after me and she's having a hard time now going through ppd with major anxiety issues. i'm trying to be a good friend but it's really hard to sympathize when her baby is alive and mine isn't. part of me just wants to be like, GET OVER IT. YOUR BABY IS ALIVE. *sigh. but obviously that's not right or helpful.

  29. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    Hi guys, thanks for checking in everyone! Yes, me too, AF arrived yesterday in my first cycle post-m/c and I was devastated. This may sound crazy, but just to share, I had a reading yesterday with a medium and connected to the lost baby. It changed my world (in a good way). So today i'm actually feeling much more at peace with what happened, and have a ton of faith we will be pregnant again really, really soon. As strange as it sounds. Last night I went home and said to my 2-year-old "Did you know your sister is with you?" and she said - I'm not kidding - "My sister and my brother. My brother is coming!". What logical sense does that make outside the context of my conversation yesterday? Anyway. I'm taking it as reassurance from whomever can give me reassurance. Just thought I'd share.

  30. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @everbee: yeah. I'm over listening to people complain about being pregnant or being up at night with a newborn. *hugs*

  31. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Silva: yay for crosshairs!

    @everbee: sorry to hear about your friend group exploding with babies. I'm totally avoiding my friend here due at thesane time as I would have been, (and I think she's avoiding me too!) so I completely get it.

    @JoJoGirl: OMG that gave me goosebumps! I've been wanting to go see someone like that too actually, think I might bite the bullet after hearing your story. Do you mind me asking how much questions they asked you beforehand? Did you feel better knowing bebe was a girl or boy?how totally bizarre that your LO said that too! Good on you for fixing following your intuition & doing that though, glad you're at peace!

  32. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    Thinking of you all and sending support your way.

    @JoJoGirl: that is so chilling and awesome at the same time! I hope she's right!

  33. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @JoJoGirl: wow! Not to sound like a complete nutter but I get that and think that's cool! I called a medium while we were trying and she correctly predicted that I was pregnant. It was like 2dpo! It made for the best tww ever.
    We can take hope wherever we get it. Fingers crossed baby brother shows up soon. 🙏🙏

  34. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    I'm still here too... we're in the final weeks leading up to when we'll start TTCing again (early Nov) and for us I think it was the right decision to wait so long (it will have been 6 months since our loss). I actually think I experienced PPD combined with grief? Things were really, really bad a few months ago but we finally made my mental health a priority and I got some help. Made a big difference.

    @Zbug: @LibbyLou: @Mrs. Champagne: @everbee: @Nutella: I feel the same way about pregnant friends - we had a family wedding this weekend where I saw a friend of DH's who is pregnant and has not been adequately sensitive about the situation (well, IMHO...) and I *literally* turned around and ran away from her. I just couldn't deal...

    @JoJoGirl: Your experience sounds AMAZING!!! My acupuncturist recommended a medium that she SWEARS by and I've considered making an appointment. I coped with our loss by holding onto the belief that we just didn't make the right body for our baby and that he (or she) will come back to us once we are ready. I know that sounds crazy but it's helped the loss feel less permanent. But a huge part of my grief these past months is that I asked the baby to wait for us while we got ready for him to return, and then I PANICKED that I'd asked a baby to wait...I don't know, somewhere???... and I wasn't able to take care of him during the wait. I wanted to go to a medium to try to reach him to make sure he was ok.... oh man, now that I type that all out I'm worried that I sound like a total nut-case.

    I've scheduled two treatments with my acupuncturist in the weeks leading up to ovulation, and she also has me taking a ton of supplements:

    -Vitex (Chaste tree) - 800-1000mg/day
    - CoQ10 - 200 mg/day
    - Maca Root - 500mg/day (only up to ovulation)
    - Evening primrose oil - 500-1000mg/day
    -Something called "Woman's Treasure" that has a ton of different plant extracts - 4-6 pills/day!
    - Red raspberry leaf tea throughout the day

    This is in addition to the prenatals and extra folic acid I'm taking - I've started taking a pill box w me to work so I can take half of them after lunch and the rest after dinner. So many pills! I hope it's not overkill...

  35. Crystal

    grapefruit / 4028 posts

    I'm glad this thread is still active. (Well, I hate that we are all here, but happy to have you all. I hope you know what I mean...). I'm still sitting in some random place in my first cycle post d&c. The dr doesn't want to prescribe me clomid until I get some testing back, but the forms they supposedly mailed over a week ago aren't here yet. I need to follow up with them.

    I'm looking forward to TTCing again... Kind of. I'm worried about going to crazy with it like I did last time I had a miscarriage.

    I also hate the innocence that is taken from us when we deal with this- I'll never be one of those people that can see two lines at 4 weeks and confidently tell everyone. And it really does seem like everyone is pregnant right now!

  36. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Crystal: hey dear nice to see you again! Hope the test results and docs go well. I'm sure you'll feel better once you have some answers & a path to go on to. Xx

    @noelani: good for you taking care of yourself! That reminds me I should get back on the EPO too. I've been trying a new iron liquid which is WAY better than the horrible iron pills! I heard somewhere to think about investing in your body pre-baby as if you were getting ready for a big life event...so it makes sense that you'd put in a decent effort into your health regime. Hope I'm making sense! Do you limit caffeine at the moment/while TTC?

  37. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @Nutella: That's exactly how we're trying to think of everything we're doing now pre-TTC, as an investment. I was really run down pre-TTC last time and as a result I got a ton of nasty viruses during the first trimester (on top of morning sickness, it was awful!!!). Doctors don't know what caused our baby's CPAM but a part of me thinks my body just wasn't able to support a healthy pregnancy.

    I am trying to limit caffeine right now- I switched to decaf this week with the goal of cutting out coffee altogether in a week or so. It's tough!!!

    I think the EPO and other supplements have really helped even out my cycle. This is TMI, but my periods had been really heavy and clotty post-loss, but the last cycle seemed a more "normal" amount of flow and the clots had disappeared. (I just started using a menstrual cup in the past few months, so I've gotten really up close and personal with each cycle ).

  38. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @noelani: that's great! I def think it will pay off for you. I might get back to my acupuncture - it was always so relaxing!

  39. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Nutella: Haha I'm glad you all don't think I'm crazy! She asked me nothing beforehand except my name and who I wanted to contact. She tuned into the baby and the entire reading came through her - it was NUTS. So accurate. Everything from career advice to my fear of flying (she pulled that out of nowhere). I asked when the next baby is going to be conceived and she said the number "3" came up, meaning in 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years. I'm Oing in 3 weeks so I'll go with that interpretation

    @catomd00: @LibbyLou: Cool right??

    @noelani: YES! Hahah. I feel a bit nuts, but it makes so much sense! And I was actually comforted it's *not* the same baby waiting to come through again - since she said the thing about this baby being with my current living daughter. She just said all the right things

    Thanks for the support, guys!!

  40. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @JoJoGirl: haha if you're crazy then so am I I went to see a medium on the weekend & im feeling so much better about it all. Even though it's not exactly an easy road ahead, I'm at peace with it too. So freaky what she could see and what she knew about me and my family. Skeptical parts of my brain tried to say it's all nonsense and made up, but I know that it's not...how else would she know these things! I only gave her my first name (nickname). And she knew things that only I knew.

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