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  1. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @JoJoGirl: @Nutella: I am so inspired hearing your stories! I need to actually make an appointment to see a medium, I think it would help alleviate some of the anxiety I'm starting to feel about actively TTC in a few weeks.

    How did you both find the mediums you saw? My acupuncturist recommended someone who has a 6-month waiting list! I don't want to wait that long, but I don't want to go to someone who I'd have a hard time trusting...

  2. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @noelani: mine was pretty random. I just picked one that I liked the look of - we went to an expo and so I literally got t see all of them in the flesh! I've been to one with a waiting list & she was less accurate/specific (but still freakishly knowledgable!) so I guess it comes down to individual experience. I def recommend! I understand the need to find peace

  3. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @noelani: @Nutella: My BIL died a few years ago at the age of 18, and since then, my very skeptical FIL and his wife have been having calls with this woman. I'm not sure how they found her. I can wall you her name if you like??

  4. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    Uggggh. Cd 22 and no sign of ovulation. The crosshairs went away because my temp dipped again and I got TONS of EWCM. That went away yesterday, still no temp rise.
    I'm feeling really discouraged because I have zero idea when to expect my period. I'm not even sure I will ovulate this cycle, so who knows what will happen
    Also, I cried at story time today. Two sisters who looked about two years apart were just so sweet with each other and it really bummed me out it comes at random moments.

  5. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts


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  6. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts

    @Silva: I'm sorry! Seeing two kids close in age upsets me too. I hope you ovulate soon! I'm not even sure if i did ovulate post MC- I bled on and off until I got a super heavy period about 28 days after I took the miso.

  7. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Silva: I'm sorry you're going through the limbo of waiting! I had an extra long first cycle - 42 days compared to my normal 28/29 days so it was a looong wait. I ovulated the next one though when j started charting again. If that helps maybe?
    Sorry you were sad at stirytime - I've found myself avoiding it since the MC. Too many babies and bumps. but should go back! LO had taken to running away the last few times so I was sort of over it!
    I also get bit sad when I see close age gaps - I always want to ask the gap when I see two littlies being cute! But I'm comforted by the fact that our two will have a strong bond regardless of age gap!
    Had another pregnancy announcement this week - like you say, sadness comes out of nowhere! Despite my happiness for her, I'm still gutted over here feeling like it'll never happen!

  8. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @Nutella: @Mrs. Champagne: thanks guys. It's been helpful to read/hear about other people's experiences.

    I just got a positive opk. My body has been crying wolf on ovulation for the past week, but I've been getting consistently negative opks, so maybe this is finally it? Now of cour I have to talk myself off the ledge and follow my doctors instructions to wait until next cycle. My husband is no help, because we've both read the research that suggests no real reason to wait, but I feel weird about not doing what they told me to do. Plus, if something happened again I would not be able to let it go.

  9. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Silva: I hope this is really it this time for you. Limbo is a bitch.

    And I hear you on abstaining. DH has been dealing with a bulging disk since July, so we've had WAY less sex than usual. I was on pelvic rest for about a month in the spring, then he hurt his back... now dealing with my body recovering...it's been about a month.

    and I'm looking into learning Creighton charting to work with NaPro doctors and they strongly suggest couples (especially couples dealing with miscarriage and loss) abstain for the entire first month of charting so that they learn faster.

    I'm still waiting for DH to react to that news... I think avoiding pregnancy would be hard enough...but a month of no sex after the summer we've had?? ugh.

  10. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @Silva: sorry!
    I'm also pretty sure I didn't ovulate post dc until after my first cycle.

    Eta: just read your later post! Hopefully the opk is for real, and your body is getting back to normal.

  11. mrs bunchy

    kiwi / 533 posts

    @MaryM: hi! I was thinking about you ! Have you received any test results back? Also- has your cyst resolved itself? Or will you need a procedure to take care of it?

    Hope you are doing well.

  12. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @mrs bunchy: Thanks for thinking of me.

    I don't have any results back. The doctor said it usually takes about 6 weeks (it hasn't quite been 4). I was supposed to have a follow up from the D&C this week, but the doctor was booked up (well, she had one mid-day appointment, but I refused that one because they get backed up around midday and I don't want to be forced to wait in a room full of happy pregnant people). So my next follow up isn't until next week.

    I have another ultrasound then to follow up on the cyst. When I was in the hospital for the D&C though it appeared it was shrinking.

  13. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @MaryM: just read about the napro treatment stuff, I hadn't heard of it before. I do appreciate their perspective on miscarriage.
    Obviously genetic flukes occur and random things happen, but I have to admit that I know something wasn't right the cycle we conceived (I'd been sick from gluten, and I had zero EWCM which is weird for me). I am not "blaming" myself, but I know things were off that cycle, and I generally pay pretty close attention to my body/cycle.

    Are you pursuing any more celiac testing?

  14. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Silva: I'm not sure yet. I'm going to ask my OB for advice next week, and maybe my creighton practitioner. The easy answer seems to be to just give up gluten just in case...but I personally don't view that as 'easy' and would kind of like to know (which I know can't be tested for if I give it up)

  15. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @MaryM: yeah, it's a major life change that I would avoid if I could. Plus, I try hard not to eat too much processed stuff, but I can't imagine all the rice ppasta and rice bread and rice crackers are good for me, either.

  16. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Silva: right. I just imagine I'll stick to the change more seriously if I know for sure that I 'can't' have it...not just that maybe I shouldnt

  17. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    Plus, DH's favorite food is sandwiches. It would be a huge change for us and I think he'd need to know how serious it is to be able to support such a change

  18. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @MaryM: if you don't mind me asking, what did they say about your cyst? I was supposed to go get a followup ultrasound for mine. It took forever to get an appt and then I had to cancel it anyway. I haven't rescheduled bc I don't really want to go sit in the ultrasound waiting room but maybe it's more important to get it checked out than I think...?

  19. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Zbug: they follow them to make sure they shrink (or go away) and that they remain clear (non-cancerous)

    DH had a cyst in his kidney turn into cancer, so I take this sort of thing pretty seriously. I think it's important to make sure it hasn't changed it has gone away.

    I always ask for the first appointment of the day (or close to it) to avoid waiting

  20. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts

    Hi ladies.

    I had a positive OPK two weeks ago today. I took a dollar store test on Wednesday and saw a hint of a line so took an FRER and a line popped right up.

    I redid both tests today (assuming I'm like 14DPO? Anyone have insight to that? Maybe 13 DPO) and they are darker but the dollar store test isn't too dark. I'm praying everything is ok this time.

    First pic is the tests from Wednesday and second pic is from today.





  21. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @JoJoGirl: sorry just saw this! It's ok - I'm in Australia so won't be able to see your person (in person) but thank you anyway!

  22. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: woop! Will reply to this thread too - congrats again!

  23. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: WOW! Congrats!

  24. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Nutella: I did it over the phone!

  25. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: congratulations!

  26. catlady

    grapefruit / 4988 posts

    I just found this thread, and I'm hoping you guys don't mind if I join? I can't actually TTC until probably late Nov or early Dec, but am anxious to start again.

    Date of loss: Had an NT scan (12 weeks) on Monday but baby measured only 9 weeks and no heartbeat. D&C was Wednesday.

    How long are you waiting to TTC again: Probably first cycle once AF returns.

    Any kids: One LO, just turned 2.

    How are you feeling? Physically, not bad. Mentally, I am also surprisingly ok, especially since I had no idea there was anything wrong. This is my 2nd missed m/c though so I knew it could happen.

    @Mrs. Champagne: Congrats!!

  27. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts

    @catlady: I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you get pregnant again ASAP with a sticky baby!

  28. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @catlady: I'm so sorry for your loss. I probably won't be trying again until December or January, but still come here for support occasionally.

    Don't be surprised if/when the emotions catch up to you. I was just telling my husband earlier this week that I felt surprisingly ok...that all crashed around me last night when I realized we should have been celebrating the beginning of the third trimester.

    I think I sort of squashed and dismissed my feelings with our first MC in order to "move one" more quickly...but this loss has really highlighted how much I was burying inside of me. Make sure you know it's ok to feel your feelings

    ((HUGS))

  29. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @catlady: Oh dear, I am SO sorry.

  30. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @Silva: @Nutella: I feel the same way about close age gaps, and recently had a really emotional moment watching DS playing by himself in our backyard. But this thread got bumped a few days ago and it made me feel a lot better! - http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/4-year-gap#post-2325223

    @Mrs. Champagne: Congratulations!!!! This is such great news!

    @catlady: I'm so sorry for your loss. I joined this board a couple of months ago even though we weren't planning on TTCing until early November. It's been a good source of support during what has been a difficult waiting period.

    @MaryM: This really resonated with me. Initially I tried to forge ahead with going back to work and trying to get back to "normal," but I did not anticipate how overwhelmed I would be by missing my baby. I'm sorry you had a tough night last night, milestones are so difficult.

  31. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @noelani: I just read this article this morning.

    THIS really hit me... "What we know is this: People who don’t rush their grief, who have good social support and people who bear witness to their pain and suffering without trying to fix or change them have better outcomes — socially, emotionally, existentially, and spiritually. The healing comes from loving, and if we don’t talk about it and we don’t learn about it, then we’re too afraid. Because what we don’t understand, we avoid."

    And I did the same with my first MC. I think I took two days off work? No one knew about it but my bosses so I couldn't have "bad" days or I was afraid people would find out. I was in a major silent funk for probably longer than I needed to be.

  32. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: yay!!!!! Biggest smile when I saw the good news on this board. Congratulations!!! 😍🎉😍🎉

  33. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @MaryM: Have you read this article? http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/478/the_geography_of_sorrow

    Someone posted it a while back and it has been transformative for me, both in my own personal grief and professionally (I am a mental health/substance abuse counselor seeing a few clients who are specifically working on grief issues, and many more who are clearly burdened by it).

    @catlady: I'm so sorry.

  34. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @MaryM: Thank you for recommending that article - I'm going to share it with DH, because we've really struggled with the people in our lives expecting me to just "get over it." Grief has been so isolating, but at least when I'm alone I can experience my emotions without the pressure of knowing I'm being judged for them.

    Are you back at work now? Or were you able to take some time off? I mentioned on a different thread of yours that I only took 4 days off of work (that included the 2-day L&D process), and looking back I wish I had been gentler with myself and taken more time.

  35. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @Silva: Thank you for posting this again. I read this article a couple of weeks ago when it first popped up on the boards and found it really, really meaningful and helpful.

  36. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    I am feeling pretty annoyed today. On top of a terrible nights sleep my temp only went up .2 degrees this morning from yesterday. My temps have been pretty erratic so its hard to know what is the cover line, but in all my months charting my temp usually goes way up after ovulation. I also had more (MORE! this is day 8 of it!) EWCM. So- despite my positive OPK, I"m pretty resigned to this looking like an anovulatory cycle. So now I guess its just random when my period will (or won't) show up?
    Grrrrr.

  37. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @noelani: I did. I sort of had to. Initially I thought I'd take at least a week, maybe two. Then a week and a half after I delivered her, I had to go back for a D&C. My doctor said to take another week off, so I was off for nearly 3 weeks.

    But considering I worked SO MUCH the week before we found out she was gone (12-14 hour days), I still feel slightly cheated. But whatever. I need to let go of that...

  38. catlady

    grapefruit / 4988 posts

    @Mrs. Champagne: @MaryM: @JoJoGirl: @noelani: @Silva: Thanks all for the kind words. I hate that we are all here but I am also glad this group exists. I wasn't part of this site when I went through my first m/c and I felt very lonely back then.

    Thanks also to those who posted about grief. Definitely agree we need to let ourselves feel it in order to truly heal.

  39. AprilFool

    nectarine / 2591 posts

    We are about to start trying so thought I would jump in here...

    Date of loss: May. First scan at 8w showed a blighted ovum. I was almost 12 weeks by the time I got my D&C.

    How long are you waiting to TTC again: We booked a holiday soon after we found out for November so were going to wait until after that but am sick of waiting so we're starting a month early. My cycle has also being doing weird things so it won't actually be too much earlier.

    Any kids: DD turned 2 in April.

    How are you feeling? Scared, nervous and excited I guess. Ready to be pregnant and move forward. Terrified of not being pregnant by my due date (dec). A bit of a mixed bag.

  40. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @AprilFool: yay for bringing forward TTC date! 🎉 holiday sounds great. We had a quick trip up to QLD recently and some days on Broadbeach/Burleigh...was perfect for clearing the mind!

    @Silva: thank you for this article. So true in so many of its points. Especially grief as a solitary burden. I used to think, what did people do before Internet forums?! Um, actually have real life conversations maybe!
    I am sorry your cycle is still doing crazy things...would you think about taking a break from charting until AF arrives?

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