DD just transitioned into a new preschool and we love it so far. The only thing I am questioning or that has me stumped is the napping.
It's a room of 4-5 yr olds, basically kids who will all go to Kindergarten next fall. I am aware that DD is on the older side of that bc of where her bday falls so some of the kids are newly 4 when DD is almost 5.. (and that is a big difference if you ask me)... anyway DD does not nap at home at all aside from maybe an odd car ride nap once in a great while.
I am glad they offer nap bc some days I do think DD needs it. My concern is that it is set up for TWO hours. From 1250-250. That seems so long!! ESPECIALLY if the kid doesn't actually sleep! How can they expect a 4 yo to lay there for 2 hours and not get bored or antsy??
Am I wrong? Is 2 hours the norm?
I've already emailed the owner and director asking if the 2 hr nap is the norm and asked if they'd consider a 1 hr cot time and then for those not sleeping let them get up and do quiet time in the "library" section or do puzzles or something.
I mean I can't even imagine being made to lay there for 2 hours if I wasn't napping and I'm an adult!
What do you guys think? is 2 hours too long?
blogger / nectarine / 2043 posts
I do think it's too long. I had the exact same issue with our pre-K (we just graduated). They had a required 1-3 PM block of naptime and my kiddo really had a hard time because she'd either fall asleep and then wouldn't go to bed until 11 or later, or she'd be not tired enough but required to lay there and stay quiet for 2 hours. Unfortunately there may not be much you can do about it because in some places it's a mandatory state issue for staff time - those 2 hours are considered required "lunch" for teachers, so one teacher stays for an hour with the kids for naps, the other stays the other hour. That was the case with our preK (we're in VA).
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
I think 2 hours is normal? Our Pre-K class at daycare did that. Some kids didn't really nap and I think were allowed to look at books quietly or something, but my kid, who doesn't nap at home, often napped there!
pomegranate / 3355 posts
@Mrs. Carrot: I'm thinking its not a requirement here although we aren't far (in MD).... but at her prior school they only did 1 hr naps which was also in MD.
@Adira: I bet DD will nap some days and I am happy they still do naps bc I do believe tired kids are just a bad idea all around
pear / 1728 posts
Two hours seems to be standard here (and I think it may be required in TX). Even my 2.5 year old doesn't nap for that long, though, so usually she just has quiet play time while other kids are still nappig.
pomelo / 5628 posts
I think it’s perfectly fine for kids who need it. Don’t they just get up when they are done? I think Lo’s preschool allowis d up to 3 hours. And non-nappers had a 20 min rest time in another room.
pomegranate / 3272 posts
I had the same concern last year. The policy at our school is that they needed to lay on their cot for the first hour and if they don't fall asleep, they can have a quiet activity (coloring, reading at book, etc.). Thankfully they started fazing this out in the second half of the year to get ready for kindergarten so that there was no nap. Instead they would have centers they would go to at that time.
It was tough in the beginning b/c if DS actually took a nap, he was a nightmare to get to bed that night.
pomelo / 5563 posts
It seems too long to me, but I also find it surprising that a 4-5 room would have naps at all - at our daycare you move into the kindergarten room when you turn 4 and there are no naps, in preparation for actual kindergarten. I definitely think expecting them to lie quietly for two hours is asking too much of little people.
pomegranate / 3355 posts
@skinnycow: towards the end of it they apparently give them puzzles to do on their cot but they are still stuck on their cot.
@Mrs Green Grass: I agree 100% with all you say.. the difference is that they all have to stay on their cots for the full 2 hours and I think that's a lot to expect from a 4-5 yo. I emailed the owner and director and suggested a one hour cot time and then if not sleeping maybe get up and do library time or puzzles in the far end of the room... they said they are looking into it
@Mommy Finger: did they still have to stay on their cot when the got the quiet activity or were they able to get up? I think making them stay on the cot for a full 2 hours if not sleeping is my issue.. if they can get up and go to a different area after an hour that would be better in my mind. I messaged one of the other moms that I just met to see what she thought and she said exactly what you said in the last line... her DD is napping the full 2 hours and then is not going to bed until 10 pm and then is exhausted in the am and making mornings really hard. She said she wishes they'd wake her daughter up after one hour.... I'm kind of hoping she might mention something too
@erinbaderin: I think* our Kindergartners still have a nap but I'm not 100% sure..... I had nap when I went to K but that was many (many many) moons ago I am actually happy they still do nap bc I feel like if a kid needs it then its 100% best to let them have it and I do believe some days DD might fall asleep but on the days she doesn't I don't like thinking of her laying there for 2 hours.....
The owner emailed me back stating they would look into it and talk to the director and the "school" and get back to me.
persimmon / 1390 posts
That is so weird to me. I think the 2 year old room at our daycare gets 2 hours. Very few of the 4-5 year olds nap. At our school the kids in the 4 year old room (it’s a mix of 4-5, and sometimes a few older 3s) make their own decision during nap time about if they want to be a napper or a non-napper. Non-nappers go to another room and do something quiet like draw or read. The kids are surprisingly good at knowing when they need a nap—DD randomly took a nap there like 2 weeks ago after not napping for months. So they separate them at the start of nap time. If there are 3 year olds who don’t nap they can go to the other room too. I think the parents have to make the decision for the 3 year olds though. It was the same thing when I was in daycare. If we didn’t want to nap, we colored. But naptime was like 1 or 1.5 hours by the time we were 4.
pomegranate / 3355 posts
@Becky: right... 2 hours is longggggg especially for this age!
apricot / 399 posts
This sounds standard to me, but they should have options for the kids who do not nap after the first hour. My 5 year old napped until she moved to K earlier this week, as did many of the kids in her class, and I am thrilled that was an option for them. The few kids who did not nap did quiet activities after the first hour.
olive / 74 posts
2 hours is pretty standard where we live... but our preschool has an "awake room" so if someone doesn't usually nap, or isn't sleeping after 30-40 mins, they can get up and go to the awake room and play.
squash / 13199 posts
Sounds standard to me. I don't think its mandatory for the older ones to lie down for the whole two hours though. I think thats only in the younger classes that they have to lie down
pear / 1737 posts
It’s standard here for 1 hour mandatory rest time on a cot and then whoever is awake gets to go participate in a quiet activity in the dark.
cherry / 220 posts
At my daycare there are two Pre-K classrooms. Pre-K A takes naps from 1-3 and Pre-K B does not nap. They recognize that kids often transition to no nap around ages 4-5 so they try to accommodate them.
My oldest stopped napping at age 3 and we definitely had problems with nap time at daycare. He was expected to lay there quietly and look at books, and that is a lot to expect from a 3 year old.
pomegranate / 3355 posts
Thank you all for weighing in!!
I got a great update. I have to say I'm so very happy with this new school and their communication!!
They basically emailed back saying they'd do exactly as I had suggested starting next week....since this week is the first week for a lot of the kids they are using it to gauge who naps and who doesn't and next week they'll implement a one hour rest period and then those that don't tend to nap will be allowed to get up and do quiet activities.
I'm very happy with this update.
DD is loving it!
pomegranate / 3272 posts
@Ajsmommy: They had to stay on their cot for the 2 hours. I questioned the whole thing too but was told it was a DCFS rule. They did offer what they called enrichment classes that would meet during the first hour but they cost $8 a class per day. So it was crazy to me to have to pay even more than the mortgage payment I was already paying them. Thankfully, it was mostly a short lived situation but boy did that suck.
persimmon / 1095 posts
I'm in MD and checked my 3yo room today. They have a 1 hour nap period scheduled.
pineapple / 12566 posts
Last year at preschool (older 3 and 4 yos) there was a nap. I don't know exactly how long, but I think it was maximum 1.5 hours. This year is the last year of preschool (so older 4 and 5 yos) and there is no more official nap. But my DD says they have quiet time where they lay their heads on their desks for 15-20 minutes.
cherry / 108 posts
Our house old center had a mandatory 2 hr nap for the pre-k room (4-5 yr olds). We moved to a new center where there is no nap time at all, and I’m happy about that.
persimmon / 1281 posts
Glad it working out for you!
In Oregon there’s a state law that says if a child doesn’t fall asleep within 20 min, the teacher must give them a quiet activity to do while the other kids sleep. My sons current and last school both have two hour nap periods. I haaaaate it. Makes bedtime soooooo much harder.
grapefruit / 4770 posts
I’m in NOVA and the pre-k around here is 1hr. 2 hours sounds really long!