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@erinbaderin: I'm thinking more in lines of after the fact if he got caught in there and throws that out as an excuse. Far-fetched yes.

I think thats where the fine line comes in for trans. One day they use the mens room, and the next day the womens. Do they have to publicly 'declare' themselves one way or the other to use the opposite room? Is it safe for a girl-declaring boy now to use the boy's restroom?
I just think high school is on a whole nother level.
@snowjewelz: Good point on the single lockable bathrooms.. we had one at my high school and it was always my preferred one to use for the extra privacy.

@snowjewelz: So many things to worry about in high school.. how will we survive our babies going there someday.

@josina: But this boy would have had to go through the trouble of dressing as a girl....not just walking into the bathroom as is.

@IRunForFun: yeahhhh this!!! Just because someone might be able to legally roll into the opposite sex bathroom eve n though they don't identify with that gender, doesn't mean they're legally able to be a creep, harass you and commit a crime in said bathroom. Sorry but these "slippery slope" worries are ridiculous and cannot be rooted in anything but irrational fears, hate and intolerance.

@josina: I think school locker rooms can be a problem and kids need to be taught it's ok to speak up and what to look out for. But this doesn't have anything to do with transgender people using the locker room. Our boys hs gym teacher was convicted about 12 years after I graduated of being a pedophile. All the students knew he was. His behavior was beyond innappropriate in the boys locker room and yet nothing happened. Our girls middle school teacher also was quite innappropriate. Luckily they took it seriously enough to threaten to fire her (she should have been) so she knocked some of it out. I guess I think these are just issues with some people in locker rooms. If someone's being innappropriate then say something and there should be more privacy options for peoe who feel uncomfortable for whatever reason.

I just wish politicians would stop making up imaginary problems and start solving some real ones...

@Jess1483: that would be too difficult and actually require them to work for their paycheck.

A lot of what I would say has already been said. But the thing people keep not understanding time and again is being a peeping tom or creeping on women (or men) in the bathroom is illegal. It will always be illegal. A man can claim he was in the women's bathroom because he's trans all day long, but if he's spying on people or doing something else unsavory, that's not getting him out of trouble. There are and will be no legitimate excuses for being a peeping tom/creeper. That argument is not rational and not valid, but it's probably a heck of a lot easier to say, "Think of the children!!!" than "I don't understand transgender people and I'm afraid/weirded out by them," which is what's really at the heart of this matter.

@josina: You're right, I hadn't really thought about it that way. But there are for sure differences in boys and girls during the teen years, and for the most part, as a teen, they want to accentuate them, not hide them.

I don't really see a boy, or a girl for that matter, doing this for kicks. There are easier ways for kids to see stuff than doing something with such a big risk of punishment. I mean, everything is on a phone these days.

From the other side of the Atlantic I see this whole thing as ridiculous. Here, so many bathrooms don't have gender assignemnts and it is NBD. Also, in Europe the stalls are very different from in the US. They are almost always completely private cubicles with floor to ceiling doors and no gaps underneath or at the top so you can't even attempt to see who is using the bathroom.

@snowjewelz: he he. It also prevents your kids from crawling out while you do your business.

I honestly think the problem here isn't people, it's US bathrooms! If the States renovated bathrooms to fully enclosed toilets with its own sink, no one would make a fuss. It doesn't matter who's next to you if you're in a closed room and not just a stall, there would be no gender issues.

@pwnstar: I should have explained. I think all bathrooms should be unisex. That's what I meant by gender not being an issue because everyone would be able to use the same bathroom.

It would eliminate so much drama.

@Truth Bombs: @pwnstar: You're right. It shouldn't be an issue at all. But I'm all for practical solutions

@snowjewelz: So, so practical! Dads can take their daughters, moms their sons. It's especially helpful for single parents and when mom or dad is out with 2 or more kids of the opposite gender and needing to pee at the same time. No more staring at people's shoes, smells, noises.