What'd you think!?! Discuss!
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Okay, who do you think really dies?
I've been wondering because I read this article:
http://www.buzzsugar.com/Ryan-Eggold-Interview-Blacklist-34627217
(possible spoilers!)ETA: And maybe this isn't a shocker...I was falling asleep during this hour, so I probably missed something that would have given this away.
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I'm kind of mad at the finale, actually. Don't hate me for saying that? I thought it was a little boring, because when you get right down to it, not all that much happens. Plus, we barely got any more info! I feel like it was more of the same...and now we have to wait until the fall!!!!
Disclaimer: I am currently sick as a dog with allergies and so it's entirely possible I missed some stuff in my hazy state last night. If I did, and the finale was actually totally awesome--PLEASE SHARE!
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@mfa_lady: I liked it, but I def feel like not much was answered! Berlin is still a big fat mystery. And I am all the more confused about Red/Liz/Sam and all the entanglement. I keep thinking Red is her father? Berlin is her father? What?! So confused!
I was so mad at first thinking Tom died too so I'm glad he didn't. But then how the heck does he survive multiple shots to his guts?!
Oh and then Meera dying
I knew they won't kill Ressler, and Aram unlikely since he never leaves the building haha.
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@snowjewelz: Right?! I feel like the whole season has gone in circles, to give us one tiny breadcrumb at a time. I guess they're just making sure they have a whole season 2's worth of material for next year!
I really hope Ressler and Liz get some hanky panky time next season. I don't love her, but I am really starting to like him. At this point, I think it's more realistic to hope for that than to hope for real answers anytime soon!
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@mfa_lady: They prob will start something but then Tom's gonna come back into the pic and maybe profess his love for her and she'd get all confused... I just want to know who the heck her father is!!!
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@snowjewelz: ME TOO. And what the hell does Red have to do with it all? Hahahahaha. Dangit, Blacklist.
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@mfa_lady: I felt the same way, not the much was really told.
@snowjewelz: We think Red is her father.
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@snowjewelz: I think Red is her father...the comment about "my father is alive/your father is dead" made sense when I realized she could be referring to Red and he could be referring to Sam?
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@jetsa: @spaniellove: I think the show def succeeded in messing with my head! I def see the evidence for both. I was on Reddit and people are saying that Red was with Berlin's daughter and Liz is their daughter & Berlin's grand daughter lol.
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@spaniellove: He said specifically to her though that her father died in that fire, so I don't think he was referring to Sam. I'm wondering if he is doing some wordplay business like "the man I used to be died that night" or something. Ugh!
@mrbee brought up a while ago that Red swears that he never lies to Liz, and he has said he's not her father. BUT....knowing Red, I feel like there is something that will get him out of that.
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@snowjewelz: I saw something on tvguide about what Red did to Berlin's daughter to piss him off. Did I really miss that much of last night's episode? I'm so confused.
@mfa_lady: It would not be beyond Red to engage in wordplay!
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@spaniellove: True that! There's always something with that guy, isn't there? Gah. How will we wait until Fall??
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@mfa_lady: I hope they show all the reruns in order! I need to go back and look for all the details!
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@spaniellove: I know! Me too. I feel like I missed a LOT....
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@spaniellove: I think Berlin somehow thinks it was Red that sent the body parts to him but obviously Red didn't so that's why he had no idea why Berlin is after him. Maybe the group that Red has a "thing" with is behind all of it, pitting those 2 against each other. Ahh, who knows!
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@mfa_lady: @spaniellove: yes me too! We watched the first 10+ episodes in 3 days so I feel like we may have missed something's there.
@spaniellove: I don't know what red did to berlin's daughter, so I missed it too. I just don't see red as a chop into pieces and mail to you kind of guy but maybe....
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I thought it was pretty cool that the picture Red took from the Stewmaker was the same picture as in the pocketwatch!
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@mrbee: holy crap I didn't catch that until you just said that. So observant! Redd totally has to be her father. What was up with the burn marks on his back in the final scene? Confused because he did say he never lied to her...maybe up to that point? I thought tom did die and they moved the body! Who knows!?
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@matador84: Red is definitely connected to Liz's fire! I think he saved her from the fire and gave her to Sam to raise. I don't think he's her father though.
I think Tom's fate is a bit up in the air. He's not going to be a central part of the show in Season 2 (from what the showrunner has been saying), but I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up at some point!
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I'm confused as to why so many people are confused! I thought it was a great finale...it had to leave us wondering, otherwise we wouldn't tune in next season! Lol.
After watching the episode, I was 100% sure Red was the father bc of the burn marks on his back. But after hearing @mrbee's theory, I'm now questioning if maybe Red just saved her from the fire and brought her to Sam to raise as his own but isn't the actual father. I would also believe the theory that Red "the father figure" died that night, and he is her father. We still don't know anything about the fire, what caused it, etc.
Tom is definitely still alive... Red had to know Liz wouldn't be able to shoot him in the head to make sure he was going to die. I do think Liz believes he is dead, though. I just don't buy it...especially since the body was missing at the end.
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What did Tom whisper to Liz?? Somehow I missed that.
@snowjewelz: Good theory on the Red and Berlin connection!
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@MrsMcD: Liz told Red that Tom said, "Your father's alive."
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@mrbee: Got it. That Tom..... I wish he would just say what he knows. I was hoping he would profess his love for Liz.
I had so much fun watching those Russian plane passengers being interrogated. That was funny. But do you think they have any involvement?
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@MrsMcD: I was still shipping a bit for Tom/Liz until he told that story about how she drew hearts in the dust of his shoes! That was pretty messed up.
I also enjoyed the passenger interviews! I don't think the passengers had much involvement though...
There's a fun recap here. The best part is the comments:
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/05/12/the-blacklist-season-finale-berlin-conclusion-recap/ -
@mrbee: good find!
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@mrbee: "Red is definitely connected to Liz's fire! I think he saved her from the fire and gave her to Sam to raise. I don't think he's her father though." This. He said an old friend brought Liz to Sam the night of the fire...Red was definitely that friend after seeing the burns on him IMO.
I'm curious why Red went into the fire to save her though (if you believe he's not her father). What connection does he have to her that would make him risk his life?
I'm also wondering about the locket/Stewmaker photo and how that will play into next season.
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@debbiei8: @mrbee: I think this makes a lot of sense. But like you, I'm dying to know what their connection truly is!
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Is Tom good or bad? *haven't caught up yet but I need to know!! *heart spoilers**
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@Raindrop: He's beyond bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@MrsMcD: We didn't hear what he said to her, but Liz says that he told her that her father is still alive.
@mrbee: Yes!! The heart on the shoes story was just heartbreaking!! So mean-spirited. He clearly told her that to hurt her.
@debbiei8: I think I missed the locket/Stewmaker thing. What are you referring to? Something about the picture in the locket?
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@bunnylovesbear: He may have actually told her that to make it easier for her to let go of him? Although it wasn't so smart to say that while he was tied up in a chair!
@bunnylovesbear: The picture in Berlin's pocketwatch is the same as the picture that Red took from the Stewmaker's book of victims!
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@mrbee: Why don't I remember the book of victims? I might need to rewatch the final episode....or even the whole season!!
And good point, maybe he did say it to help her get over him. I knew from the beginning I didn't trust him, but I so badly wanted to be wrong about him.
I knew they won't kill Ressler, and Aram unlikely since he never leaves the building haha.
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