Did you get one? If so, when? Did it work? If you didn't get one did your baby turn on their own?
37 weeks on Thursday and little miss is still frank breech, and unless she flips really really soon I have to make a decision.
Did you get one? If so, when? Did it work? If you didn't get one did your baby turn on their own?
37 weeks on Thursday and little miss is still frank breech, and unless she flips really really soon I have to make a decision.
24 votes
cantaloupe / 6059 posts
Have you been to a chiropractor that specializes in the Webster technique? I have known a few who have had success with that but of course ymmv!
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
I voted flipped on her own, 36 ish weeks I think. I didn't even feel it - and she was also Frank breech (C). I was shocked when my 37 week appt they said head down! She was just barely 6 lbs when she was born at 38+2, though, so she was tiny. Which is why I suppose I didn't feel it
pomelo / 5509 posts
Have you been doing any exercises to encourage her to flip? I had a client whose frank breech baby flipped at 38 weeks after doing exercises each day and getting acupuncture.
GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts
@sorrycharlie: I'm really hoping when I go in on Friday they'll tell me she flipped, but I can feel she's still breech right now
@IRunForFun: Some...pelvic tilts and lots of crawling (having a toddler helps!) and frozen peas and music. I can't do most of the stuff that puts my butt up in the air, though, because I get immediate head rush headaches.
I'm also anxious about the version because I have a placenta that's very high up, wraps from front to back and is bi-lobal and kind of scraggly. And the last 5-6 ultrasounds I've had she's been nestled up using it as a pillow.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@lovehoneybee: if you end up having a c section, will you have plenty of help with the toddler and everything for a couple of weeks after?
apricot / 288 posts
Tried it but it didn't work. Happy I tried and it didn't hurt but there usually is a reason they are in a certain position so I would not have tried any of the so called techniques that people try on themselves.
GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts
@Foodnerd81: Yeah, D will have a few weeks off, and my mom lives with us.
pomelo / 5509 posts
@lovehoneybee: Bummer on not being able to do the forward-leaning inversions. There's a lot of information on Spinning Babies about sitting positions that can create more room for baby to move, as well as stretches that can loosen muscles that might be too tight and prohibiting proper positioning. When you do the frozen peas are you simultaneously doing a warm pack? (So frozen peas up where her head is and warm pack where you want her head to be.)
I'd personally be wary of an external version because it can be painful, no guarantee of success, and there can be complications. What does your doctor say about the ECV and position of your placenta?
Maybe you could find a chiropractor who specializes in the Webster technique and/or try acupuncture/moxibustion first?
This link discusses moxibustion BUT suggests having your partner do it - I'd stick to finding a professional: http://www.pregnancy.com.au/birth-choices/breech-birth/moxibustion-for-breech-presentation.shtml
apricot / 343 posts
I had the option but declined at the last second because I felt to nervous about it. I personally think that if they flip it's for a reason, so I didn't feel comfortable attempting a version. Good luck, it's a lousy position (no pun intended) to be in. (For what it's worth, mine would have ended up in a csection anyways)
pear / 1614 posts
Tried but it didn't work. I wouldn't do it again - not because it was painful, but because I'm emotionally uncomfortable with the pushing on the fetus.
pear / 1739 posts
My son was breech up until my 37 week appointment. At the 36 week he was still breech but flipped the following week and I went into labor that Thursday. Thank heavens he flipped!
nectarine / 2932 posts
I was not comfortable with the idea of the ECV. My LO was breech my entire pregnancy and I was paranoid there was a reason he hadn't moved. I did a bunch of the less intrusive techniques but ultimately ended up with a c-section.
GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts
@shortcake: @jlm22: @Littlebit: I keep coming back to this....she's not really moved around much in months (or happens to be in the same position for my monthly ultrasounds). MFM thinks it'll be okay to try, but also told me last month that babies tend to put themselves in the optimal position in the uterus, and I'm just not sure I'm comfortable trying to force it (anymore than I'm trying to coax her on my own at home). I'm not really comfortable with a csection, either, but my pregnancy has been slightly higher risk and I'm a little anxious I'd be tempting fate a bit? I'm just trying to decide if I'm being overly anxious...
GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts
@IRunForFun: He doesn't think it'll be an issue, since I'd be monitored closely and they'd be prepared to do a csection of things go south. But he also acknowledged that there's only a 50% chance it'll work.
I usually do a heating pad when I do the peas, and/or music or D talking to her from down low.
pineapple / 12053 posts
I don't have experience with an ECV, but when DD2 was breech in late 2nd trimester, I read up on ECVs and found this evidence based article on them. I never had to make the decision, but it might help you with feeling more comfortable about your MFM's comfort level since he seems to be okay with it! http://evidencebasedbirth.com/what-is-the-evidence-for-using-an-external-cephalic-version-to-turn-a-breech-baby/
apricot / 399 posts
I had one, and it worked (this was after weeks of spinning babies and acupuncture). It was a little traumatic for me. They tried a couple times without success, and I found it very painful. But then I got an epidural, and it worked the third time. If you had asked me right after the version whether I would do it again, I would have said hell no. But I think it taught us a lot about what we wanted out of the birth, how to advocate for ourselves on the context of our hospital, and that I really didn't want an epidural at the birth. But my birth was amazing, so it feels worth it. I am pregnant again and have a lot of anxiety about the baby's position. If I decide to do another version, I will get the epidural right away. I needed that to relax enough for it to work.
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
I wasn't comfortable trying a version, and she never flipped so I had a c-section. My acupuncturist did give me some moxi sticks to try but they made my whole apartment smell like a drug den so we only used them once .
grapefruit / 4291 posts
I had a successful ECV with Miss A but she had been head-down until 34 weeks and I could feel her trying to get transverse in the weeks leading up to the ECV.
I was comfortable with the 50% success rate because it at least gave me a chance to have a vaginal birth versus my only other option being a c-section. The risk of the ECV resulting in a c-section was 1 in 200 and I was comfortable with that level of risk.
apricot / 329 posts
My baby was still breech at 37 weeks so we did an ECV then. I had tried weeks of pretty much everything out there (inversions, moxa, frozen peas, flashlight to the lower belly, positions on spinningbabies, etc) and LO never budged. The version was very uncomfortable but not excruciating, and it was successful! Baby flipped to head down after only about 45 seconds or so of manipulation. BUT we were one of those statistics--my water broke and placenta abrupted during the ECV, so we had to have an emergency C despite baby being head down. I was crushed since my primary goal in doing the version was to allow my baby to go full term and to avoid a C section. In the end she came three weeks early (37+0) and via a C section after all. But she was absolutely fine and I was too, as scary as it was to be bleeding heavily BEFORE the baby comes out! My only regret is that I wish I had schedule the version for 38 weeks (instead of 37) to allow her another week to grow, since I feel like I accidentally chose her birthday (by the date I scheduled the ECV appt) based on my work schedule. Good luck!
apricot / 287 posts
I had one at 36 weeks I think. Little dude was stubborn and wouldn't budge. I ended up having a c section. The version was painful and uncomfortable but looking back on that experience, it was less painful than c section recovery, I wish he had flipped and the version had worked. I was nervous about it, but they had a heart rate monitor on him at all times.
apricot / 343 posts
@lovehoneybee: I was uncomfortable about a csection as well, but honestly, it was easy and I had a great experience. After I told the doctor I didn't want to attempt the version (through tears, ha) the L&D nurse (Angels, all of the nurses are angels) whispered in my ear that the baby flipped for a reason and she wouldn't have tried to flip her either. The cord was around her neck a couple of times so if we tried a version it would have been unsuccessful. If I am in this position again I wouldn't waste my time worrying and I would go right for the section. My recovery was also fairly easy.
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