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@SweetCaroline: all I can say is that I have had a pos at 8dpo for 5/7 pregnancies. One of those I am not sure bc wasnβt planned and the other one was this one π€·ββοΈ
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@SweetCaroline: Ask me tomorrow morning
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@fuzzypeaches: Just echoing yellowbeach, donβt worry about taking over, weβre all on here because weβre a little neurotic. This whole process is so stressful when you havenβt always had the fairytale ending.
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Everyone considering POAS tomorrow morning should, at least to distract me from symptom spotting at 3-4 dpo... Because you know, so many legit pregnancy symptoms this early
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Ahh not good news
beta was 15!
Now I am just going to hope for a speedy finish.Thanks everyone for all the support, this is such a great community!
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@fuzzypeaches: ugh that sucks. Sorry lady.
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@fuzzypeaches: Oh, Iβm so sorry. Hopefully with levels that low itβll go fast.
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@fuzzypeaches: I'm so sorry. I've been checking in today hoping for good news for you.
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@fuzzypeaches: damnit. Iβm sorry you are going through this again.
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@fuzzypeaches: damnit. I'm sorry lady
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@fuzzypeaches: I'm so sorry!
I just popped in for a really quick update as I won't be online until tomorrow. My temp was lower today and it seems I have started the slow decline to af. 11dpo today.
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@fuzzypeaches:
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@fuzzypeaches: Ugh!
@Yellowbeach: Why not test at 8 dpo? You know, just to "try out your tests ... for science?"
@paranundrum: NO! Your temps can't be falling!
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Ugh look at this temp drop
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@yellowbeach: At 8 dpo, such a dramatic drop could be 4 things:
1) Since it is an open circle, it may have been higher ... Early waking (or an unrestful sleep) and mouth breathing (combined) would cause a dramatic downward shift.
2) A corpus luteum dip- an empty follicle is left behind after ovulation. The follicle collapses and becomes the corpus luteum which is a temporary glandular structure that secretes both E2 and P4 in preparation for the possibility of conception and implantation. The instability between E2 and P4 during the shift causes a dip in temps. It occurs (most often) between 5 and 9 dpo.
3) An implantation dip - between 6 and 12 dpo ... so a dip at 8 dpo would make sense!
4.) The one I'm hoping the least - low temps starting the depressing downward spiral to AF. (* But, we are going to stay hopeful and positive that it is too early for this!
I can't wait to see if your BBT rebounds tomorrow! π€
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@Kaohinani: I canβt help but assume itβs bad news, but to respond, yes, I did wake up earlier today as Iβm working 7a-5p. I suppose both 2 and 3 are still possible given that Iβm only 8DPO. My LP is typically shorter than FF has planned for (I think itβs reading from the last two medicated cycles and adjusting out).
I didnβt test this morning after I saw that because if I saw a squinter, this would be more reason not to believe itβs real, and I just didnβt want to go down the false positive route again. If it was negative, itβs still to early to declare myself out. So I made coffee and am headed to work for a good 10 hour distraction.
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@yellowbeach: I'll stay hopeful for #s 2 and 3. π€
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7 dpo - My BBT fell a tiny bit from yesterday, but, if I get one more high temp, my chart goes triphasic. Triphasic charts mean very little to me as, in the last year, I have gotten a handful of them ... Years ago, I only got them during successful cycles. π€π€·ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Chart candy:
@Sams Mom: How is your chart looking this morning?
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@Kaohinani: How do you find the lower part of the chart you posted with the percentages?
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@yellowbeach: Go to "charts like mine." From there, hit the "STATS" button and it should display your stats in comparison to women with similar BBT and patterns. You may also "Filter" your criteria first (to include unmedicated or injectable cycles, the same amount of BD-ING, neg before positive HPTs, etc) and then check your stats using those variables. My chart (in my last post) is just based on my post-ovulatory temps and BBT pattern so it is only biased as far as the amount of shared charts in the pool are. Keep in mind, it does not completely take into consideration your age, how long you've been TTC, infertility, or if you have undergone ART unless you enter that within the filter setting.
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@yellowbeach: Iβm sorry to see your drop today, but as Kaohinani said, it really could be any number of things at this point. Hopefully youβll have an easy day at work to distract but not stress you out.
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@Kaohinani: Youβre still really high though l, so fingers crossed itβs just a blip and you go triphasic tomorrow!
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@fuzzypeaches: Ugh--I'm so sorry.
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@karenbme: Thank you! I am hoping you are correct.
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@fuzzypeaches: oh no, Iβm so sorry
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@Kaohinani: not a lot going on here. It adjusted yesterday's down some, but still on the rise.
I know it very well could be because of my full bladder, but my left ovary hurts soooo bad this morning.
ETA: I don't know why they moved my coverline down like that. π€·ββοΈ Not that it matters
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@fuzzypeaches: eff. Sorry to hear.
I POAS (9 dpo) and itβs bfn. Feeling out even though itβs so early. Weirdly at peace with it π€·ββοΈ
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@paranundrum: booooo, but at least you see a doctor this cycle!
@yellowbeach: I vote 2 or 3 also; but by chance do you know a roundabout guess of what your LP is outside of retrieval and transfer cycles?
@Kaohinani: that chart looks amazing. I know I know triphasic doesn't always mean pregnancy for anyone, and statistically you... BUT, I think there are babies!
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@bees_knees: you've got time yet, but it sucks getting that single line test for sure.
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@bees_knees: I know how you are feeling as I have felt the same before: Slightly crestfallen yet at peace. In any case, most implantations occur AT 9 dpo so you still have PLENTY of time for a possible BFP!
@Sams Mom: Thanks!
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@Kaohinani: @Sams Mom: Thanks! 2/3 of my pregnancies Iβve gotten BFPS by now which isnβt helping
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2/18: MrsKansas
2/19: Yellowbeach
2/20: Paranundrum
2/22: Kaohinani
2/23: Sam's Mom
2/24: SweetCaroline
No POAS date: MsHangry
TBD:
Drop-In BFP: Good luck, ladies!
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@Sams Mom: usually 10-12 days.
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@yellowbeach: so hopefully too soon for the bobsled run to AF. I vote corpus luteum or implantation
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A page for anyone who charts BBT or for those interested in it (and do not use FF):
https://parentingpatch.com/basal-body-temperature-chart-patterns/
Unfortunately, while it devotes a section to fallback rise and implantation dip, it does not expand upon the hormonal exchange between E2 and P4 which produces the corpus luteum dip (which occurs after fallback, yet before and around implantation).
Non-symptom update:
At the moment, I am bloated, crampy, and starving ... and my left breast is sore. The TWW is cruel! -
@Sams Mom: I just changed my chart to FAM (fertility awareness) after I had changed it to Manual a day ago because Advanced didn't align with my other 2 Fertility app's charts. (I also tested out the Research monitor ... for "research" and all, of course! π€). The FAM and Research settings put me as a CD16 OV and dropped my crosshair temps about .40Β° lower than "Advanced" which had me as a CD17 OV.
My thought - Perhaps try one (or both) of those options to see what happens with your chart?... You know, since FF already changed your coverline on it's own and all. π€·ββοΈ I find it funny that FAM and Research were identical (and only .10Β° lower to my Manual entry); however, were SOOOOOO different (by a day and .40Β°) to my Advanced crosshairs! I would be curious to know what happens with you.Also, I kind of like the FAM mode.
I'm sure you know all the distinctions and what each monitor covers (but just in case:
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Fertility-Friend-Interpretation-Methods.html. ).My "new and improved" chart:
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I am eating chocolate (which I am not supposed to on my keto diet for seizure management) and, normally, I am a salty-savory lover (* NOT sweets! Uck!). If I don't end up pregnant with my cravings, I will be p#ssed!
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@Kaohinani:
As for me, Iβm normally not a napper, but dozed off on the couch this afternoon, so now Iβm suspicious, too.
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@karenbme: π€
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@Kaohinani: thanks.
(October mama)
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