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i had NO idea
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http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/uggs-uggly-reputation-214515845.html
i had NO idea
bananas / 9899 posts
I already knew they were made of sheepskin...? I kinda thought everyone knew that? They are always referred to as "Sheepskin boots".
coconut / 8234 posts
I've always thought Uggs were ugly, but I had no idea they were made out of sheepskin. But I think, and I could be wrong, that they just don't kill sheep to make the boots, that these are sheep that were already going to be slaughtered for food and their skin is then used. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
An Ugg ad came up for me in this post
GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts
I have never owned a pair, but OMG. WTH is wrong with humanity?!?!
bananas / 9899 posts
We eat lamb, we wear leather... am I missing something? I guess if you are already against those things than sure, boycott this. But I'm not getting how Uggs being made of sheepskin is somehow so shocking.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
@pui: i knew they were sheepskin, i didn't know the way they practiced retrieving it.
grapefruit / 4291 posts
I actually spent seven years working for a lamb export processing plant and whilst I can't speak for every facility, our process was as humane as you can get.
Hides / sheepskin are usually a by-product and sheep / lambs are primarily slaughtered for their meat.
I have no qualms wearing sheepskin or leather or eating lamb.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
@Kemma: is the article inaccurate? if it is a byproduct of other animal products, it's one thing, but the way they depicted the story, it made Uggs looks like the big corporate company killing sheep inhumanely for their fur for a fad boot. i guess that was what was unsettling for me.
persimmon / 1361 posts
That is sad. I have no problem with the slaughter of animals and use of animal products, but prefer they be treated humanely in the process (although some believe this statement is an oxymoron). I'm no vegetarian, but why must the animals be tortured and treated so horrendously.
bananas / 9899 posts
@mrsjyw: I take things PETA puts out there with a grain of salt. They're not exactly the most honest, ethical bunch themselves.
Also, did the video mention Uggs specifically? It seemed to me they were talking about Australia generally.
bananas / 9118 posts
Having been raised on a farm where we produced animals for food and leather and an Animal Science major, I have to shake my head at the article to a degree. PETA is notorious for being inflammatory and one-sided, they are quoted and cited several times in this article.
Yes- I have to agree that it is very important to know where your products come from, both in clothing and food. That leather purse that gets carried around every day wasn't shaved off of a sheep or cow either- it's treated skin. Frankly, shaving the wool off a sheep and artificially attaching it to a backing won't result in a very high quality product. The term "vegan leather" often cracks me up in places like Zulily- it's a cloth, rubber, and oil based fake leather.
The wool industry is huge in Australia and New Zealand (not necessarily related to the companies listed in the article, researching each company is important), as is using the rest of the sheep- the meats and other products. Many of the farms my university had exchanges with did a great job in treating their livestock well. No, I don't like factory farming, I prefer locally produced and humanely raised meats and grass fed beef. The US has come a long way in making the less pretty side of production farming more humane (Temple Grandin for example, an AMAZING woman). I'm not a McDonald's food fan, but their slaughter houses are actually pretty well handled.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
@pui: yea i'm not a huge fan of peta in general and don't believe 100% of what they put out there-- it was def the title/video that got me, so i should research more?
grapefruit / 4817 posts
Actually, I think the Ugg brand is made in China with mainly Chinese materials. There's nothing "Australian" about them besides the style. And I don't think the Chinese have much in the way of animal rights, so I'm guessing the sheep are treated horribly regardless. But unless you're avoiding everything from China, which is famous for treating workers and animals terribly, you can't be too surprised.
grapefruit / 4671 posts
@mrsjyw: I didn't see any evidence in the article that UGG was deriving sheepskin for their boots as a primary product as opposed to a by-product. The article was quoting Wikipedia and PETA videos, not credible enough for me.
grapefruit / 4291 posts
@mrsjyw: my guess would be that the video accurately depicts a SMALL portion of the industry. From what I know, the practice of "mulesing" (cutting the skin from live sheep) is being phased out in Australia and is pretty much non-existent in NZ due to our animal welfare standards.
With regards to the slaughtering, the methods shown weren't Halal which was interesting as I always thought the Middle East and North Africa were predominantly Muslim countries.
My other thought was that a stressed animal does not yield a high quality product so a lot of processing facilities do everything possible to keep the animals calm and happy prior to slaughter.
grapefruit / 4291 posts
@lemondrop: Tempel Grandin helped design part of the yarding at one of our Plants!
pomegranate / 3231 posts
People are surprised that sheepskin boots are made of... sheepskin? Really? Hello? Bueller?
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
@ElbieKay: we were shocked at the inhumane practices that the article mentioned of retrieving the fur for boots. although it's looking like not to be a credible source.
bananas / 9118 posts
@Kemma: She was by far the most challenging professor I've ever had, but I feel so fortunate to have been able to work with her. The way her brain processes things is beyond amazing. That is so cool that you've done work at a facility she's worked with!!
So true that a highly stressed animal = lower quality product- very well said!
papaya / 10570 posts
Why would you skin an animal alive? Surely you would kill it first to stop it thrashing about and harming you?
Im not really sure about this article, y'know.....! Seems a little sensationalist to me....
honeydew / 7916 posts
@lemondrop: You've had Temple as a professor? That is so awesome! I'm more familiar with her from her autism work but love that she puts her knowledge to use for animals.
GOLD / pomelo / 5737 posts
I'm with those who aren't surprised and also a bit critical of the article..
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