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@bluestriped bee: I'm in Canada so I'm not sure if I can be part of it, but I joined anyway. Such a cool idea!
@lazypanda: I don't want to sound really negative and make you feel worse but I get EWCM before my period
But, I really, really hope that's not the case for you and you have good luck!! *baby dust*
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@alohaorchid: ughhh hope you didn't get all dressed up
Hope you have a good weeekend!!
@lazypanda: Could it be really late implantation?!??! Say you Od 2 days after trigger and it implanted 10-12 days after?!?!? Never know!!!!!!!!
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@FaithFertility: I sure did get all dressed up! We're talking the whole 9 yards... you can't even imagine the mood I was in yesterday!
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@alohaorchid: that has happened to me a time or two
ughhhh boys!!!!!
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Hi girls! I'm on my 12th cycle TTC and just made an appointment for an infertility consult with my normal obgyn for mid-May. I'll check in on this thread from now on, I suppose!
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@MrsMcD: good luck:) Those consults are bitter-sweet. On one hand, it is SO depressing to think it has gotten that bad, but on the other hand it is refreshing to know you're finally getting the help you need
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@CupQuakeWalk: Thanks, friend. That's basically how I feel about it all. I'm not too bummed out about anything at this point. Every day that goes by, I always wonder "how the heck would I have fit a baby into that day?!?" But I'm certainly just getting a little pissed about not getting what I want after 12 times of trying!
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@MrsMcD: The time passed and waiting is the hardest part of it all, well there are harder things, but those shall not be mentioned
Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!!
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@babycanuck: i'm sorry
i'm out for right now too, we lost our ins coverage, but hopefully life will get back on track soon.
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@lazypanda: Sorry for the limbo. I hope you get some answers tomorrow.
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@mrs. bird:
thinking of you!
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@alohaorchid: Thank you!! Ohhhh in-laws! Hopefully there will be wine to get you through!
@MrsMcD: Good to see you here, even though it's a bummer as to why we're all here!
@mrs. bird: Ugh I hope you get coverage soon! Will you guys try naturally in the mean time? (Sorry, I don't know your story!)
Went this morning for 5 tubes of blood! I find myself hoping more and more there's something that will be found. Also scheduled my HSG for Friday afternoon! Am I the only one who thinks it's "funny" they make you go for a pregnancy test before? I had half a mind to tell her, Trust me I'm not
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@mrs. bird: wow, I'm so sorry. I hope you get coverage soon.
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@mrs. bird: I'm so sorry about your insurance coverage, also.
I don't know your story, either, so I'm also curious if you will continue to try just for fun or whatever.@Kelli_Deluxe: Thanks for the welcome, lady!
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Girls whose husbands have had a SA done: do you recall what specific lab work was requested by your doctor for the SA?
My DH's general physician ordered a "semen analysis, complete" with code #6668. I've seen online that there is also a semen analysis with code #3854F. Which test is right?
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@MrsMcD: Welcome. I'm glad you have a consult set up. Not sure about the coding for the SA since ours was done at the fertility clinic. Since he wrote "complete" I would assume they will look at count, motility and morphology at a minimum.
@mrs. bird: I'm so sorry, hope you get things sorted out soon.
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@Kelli_Deluxe: they said I would have to take one, but didn't make me do it--hope it's the same for you! Five bloods is mucho to me.
@Shutterbug: miss "seeing" you. Hope you're doing well.
@MrsMcD: we're happy to have you--you always seem to have a good spirit! But you don't have to if it makes you sad--this is my favorite corner of the HB though, and I hope you'll enjoy it, too! I don't remember the SA code, but the "complete" sounds good to me. Will he be able to collect at home?
@FaithFertility: how are you feeling?
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@Happygal: hi friend! I've been trying to ignore TTC and IF as much as I can (although clearly I'm still stalking this thread, haha!) It's been a nice mental break, and I'm focusing on my vacation to Mexico in a few weeks. Hope everything is well with you! Are you all healed up from your lap now?
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@Shutterbug: Hello there!
Enjoy your vacation, nice to see you around
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@Shutterbug: thanks, love! there were a lot of tears this wk end (omg, it got worse! seriously, when it rains, it pours!), but we'll get where we need to be. i tell myself that someday when i meet my baby, i won't be able to imagine any baby i'd want more than that baby and had my path been a more direct one, i'd never meet them, so i will be grateful for this journey.
@CupQuakeWalk: thank you!
@Kelli_Deluxe: & @MrsMcD: thanks guys! i'm 4DPO, so there's not much more to do for this cycle
we'll see where things are at next cycle. as for our story, i have hashimoto's (autoimmune disease that attacks thyroid & messes with my hormones), a blocked tube, and uterine abnormalities. we stopped preventing almost 3 years ago.
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@MrsMcD: you want the 'complete', i think the other i just a count & doesn't include morphology. our RE was very specific that when the urologist ordered that they wanted a complete SA, not just a SA
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@mrs. bird: ack. Just saw your update. I hope the downpour lets up for you soon and it's nothing but sunshine. Pop in and say hi if you want!
@shutterbug: totally understand, and never any pressure to respond.
I'm all healed from the surgery, but want to blame it for the extra five pounds on my frame. I googled this and the internet doesn't back me up. Damnit! No more bowls of ice cream for me.
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@Happygal: The imaging center sent over a lab order for a urine test Thursday morning. Boo, hiss.
@MrsMcD: I echo everyone else! I got a "prescription" for my husband to get a "SA - Complete" at the fertility center across the street from the RE. I never knew about the specific coding but it provided us with the essential (volume, count, motility & morphology)
@mrs. bird: Thanks for sharing! I love your idea of this journey leading to a baby and being the "perfect" journey
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@mrs. bird: I'm sorry it was a rough weekend. It is so true that when it rains, it pours! Hang in there sweety!
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@alohaorchid: @FaithFertility: @mrswin: Thank you ladies! I'm going to try and not test until Thursday unless RE directs me to test tomorrow. I'll have DH hide the tests for me so I don't try to test on a whim.
@MrsMcD: DH had the complete SA ordered by RE. After our initial consult with the RE, he also ordered additional tests (Treponema pallidum Igg+IgM basically to test if there's any STD) so that we could potentially move towards IUI quickly if needed.
@mrs. bird: I'm sorry about the insurance. Your hope and attitude towards this journey is inspiring! I hope the break from medications will help you get your BFP as it did for a friend's old roommate.
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@Happygal: Hello
I'm feeling good, no crazy symptoms, orher then my face breaking out bad over rhe weeekens, but that is going away....... strange how when you go through this you wake up every day wanting morning sickness, to be dizzy , sore boobs....lol I said to DH Saturday is far away, I sure wish I would throw up....lol so I get confirmation again.....lol but so far so good, I guess the biggest good sign is no spotting!!!! :)))
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@mrs. bird: I am sorry to hear, things will find a way!!!!
@Shutterbug: Nice to see you
Enjoy Mexico!!!!!!!
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@lazypanda: Hahahah, my DH is almost as bad as I am wirh POAS......
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@lazypanda: looking forward to your update! My husband was surprisingly stern with me when we did our IUI about testing. I wanted to test at 12 or 13 dpo, but he insisted we wait until 14! It's good to have a partner to help with self control.
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@Kelli_Deluxe: there will be lots of wine, thankfully! It's not my MIL or FIL that are the issue (they're great!), it's my SIL and her kids. The kids are nuts! They used to be so well behaved when they were younger but now they're just wild! My SIL is in a whole other category by herself... Ugh. It's 6:30am and I already want wine just thinking about it!
@mrs. bird: sorry to hear that you're out for a bit
I hope you get your insurance fixed soon@MrsMcD: my doctor gave me a lab req for my husband and it just said "complete semen analysis"
@Kelli_Deluxe: 5 tubes of blood!!
and that would be why I'm having such a hard time with this stuff! Good luck with your HSG! Not much of an update from me. I'm now 99.9% sure that I ovulated this cycle, which is now making me start to question my doctor. I'm getting even more frustrated with my husband and his lack of communication regarding this stuff, the best I can get out of him is "you're happy without kids too right?"
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Quickly checking in, then I'll catch up later:
3 positives (man, these were hard to think of. Life has been trying lately):
1. I passed both sections of an exam for a professional certification in my field!
2. Next month I'll be paying off a large student loan.
3. Easter candy is amazing and since it's still cold/snowy here, I don't feel the need to start getting in shape for summer quite yet (hello, Cadbury eggs! I feel no guilt!)No updates here.
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@doxielove: Those are all awesome positives! I'm sorry you've been having a hard go of things lately, I hope things start looking up for you soon
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@alohaorchid: I'm glad that you think you ovulated, are you temping? Would you DH be willing to see a ND (naturopath) who specializes in fertility if he is not interested in going the RE route? We see one and she has been really good, there have been marked improvements in my SO's numbers as a result. Wall me if you want more info, I am in Canada too.
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@mrswin: I just started temping this cycle! Up until now I have been using OPK's and charting, but could never seem to remember to temp. Then my doctor mentioned that OPK's can be positive even if you don't O, so temping is the best way to track it. It makes me feel even more confused because how could I have PCOS, ovulate on the same CD every cycle, and be so regular? I think something else is going on, and I think to do really find out what it is, I need to do more tests. The question is - do I do them without my husband or not!?
I honestly don't know if he would. He seems so hesitant to anything. When we had our MC he was drinking some Chinese tea like crazy (for energy) and later on he read that it could have a positive effect on sperm quality. A few months ago when he was on a "baby fever" kick, I told him to start drinking the tea again and he wouldn't do it. He just said "I want to stay relaxed, we have to be relaxed, no stress, if it happens, it happens". That's pretty much ALL I can get out of him and it's frustrating!
I actually told him last week that I think we need to go to counselling because we need to communicate about this stuff. It kind of upsets me because everywhere else we're a great couple and we have no issues communicating about anything other than TTC.
The super frustrating thing about all of this is that it's him that really wants a baby.
As far as seeing a naturopath - what did they recommend?
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@alohaorchid: To be frank.... if he wants a baby that badly then he needs to get his s**t sorted out! I can sympathise that the last time he went through this he had a pretty sour experience but you are a different person which us presumably why he married you
You could go the ND by yourself to see if you can determine what/if you have any issues and go from there. As far as "treatment" it was largely dietary for me as well as a specific tea and vitamins to help to "fix my cycle. I was temping an ovulating on CD13 or 14 typically but then my LP was all over the place 13-16 days with low temps (not below the cover line) from 10DPO onwards. She made some recommendation for my DH based on his test results from the RE, mostly just vitamins that are good for sperm quality
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@mrswin: I agree 110% He needs to stop being so immature and burying his head in the sand over this. I think he thinks all of that stuff is in the past but unfortunately, it's just something that he brings with him into any relationship.
I think I will make an apppointment to see the ND. I went to one years ago for other issues and it helped immensely, so hopefully it will help this time too. Did you find it made your LP better?
I'm dreading seeing my SIL this weekend! She's a textbook sanctimommy and all she ever wants to talk about is her kids, or how empty your life is without kids, or what we're doing to TTC. Then she will change the subject to how TTC ruined his marriage last time and so I need to "tread carefully", but at the same time my life will be pointless without kids, and we have to have two (I only want one, I can't imagine more than that). I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about it! Can I start drinking now?!
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@alohaorchid: It made my LP better and AF more "normal". See if you can find an ND who specializes in fertility as they should be well versed in interpreting charts and understand what testing should be/could be done and how to have the most impact.
What was your DH's view on the fertility stuff before you got married? I agree he may want to believe that it has "gone away" but that is not likely.
Your SIL sounds like a prize, you should absolutely start drinking now!
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@mrswin: Before we got married we had a surprise pregnancy (that ended in MC) so I think he thought that everything did just go away. From what I've heard, he wasn't happy in his first marriage even before they started TTC and so he thinks that things didn't work out with her because it wasn't meant to be. He thinks things are meant to be with us so "it'll happen when it happens".
Before we got married he would talk about kids all the time, how he couldn't wait to have a baby, how cute our baby will be, picking out which room the baby's room would be, deciding on what car to get, etc. After we got married - nothing. Well, I shouldn't say that, everything changed after I started getting tests done.
His MFI is mild, apparently. He has told me which part of MFI it is but that's it. I actually found out that it's mild because his friend called him a few months ago because they found out they also have MFI. I asked him what their issue is and he said "same as me but mine's mild and his severe". That's all I've managed to get out of him. Oh, and how awkward and uncomfortable it is to have to jerk off in a cup all the time... if there was a rolling eyes smiley I would enter it here!
It doesn't help that his sister keeps telling him all of these stories about how people can't concieve because they're with the wrong person and then they magically concieve once they are with someone else.
I will definitely find a ND who specializes in fertility.
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@mrswin: @Happygal: @mrs. bird: @Kelli_Deluxe: @lazypanda: @alohaorchid: Hey girls! Thank you for the warm welcome and the great info on the SA. I'm feeling good about it and hopefully DH will get it done on Friday. I'm really looking forward to getting to know each of your better.
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@alohaorchid: I second the idea of couples counseling. I'm new here and didn't want to go out on a limb and saw...but when you talk about how conflicted your husband's thoughts and emotions are and how he's avoiding any deeper discussion with you...maybe it would really help to define your goals and get a plan underway.
@mrswin: agree!!!
Not meaning to outstep any bounds...I just really think you're onto something.
But, I really, really hope that's not the case for you and you have good luck!! *baby dust*
and that would be why I'm having such a hard time with this stuff! Good luck with your HSG! 
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