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I can't remember where/when I first heard this but I think it was pre-HB. I agree, NTNP is more meaning "just let it happen" - not doing anything actively to get KU except DTD. "Trying" seems to mean OPK's, charting, etc like you said. IRL it bugs me when someone says that though and then gets surprised when they end up KU. "Your period is late!? Have you been trying" "No, but we haven't been preventing either." (:::Um then maybe you shouldn't be so surprised.:::)

I've heard it outside of HB. I heard it on WB. I heard it from my sister who is not on WB or HB (at least, not that I know of). My sister is/was on the Bump or The Nest forums.

I think it's a fairly common TTC abbreviation.

What I don't get is there's different variations to it. I can never remember them all. I understand NTNP but there's others that take me a few minutes to decipher.

I've heard it on other boards too. But I thought NTNP was just randomly DTD not caring about timing, just not using BC of any kind?

I heard about it outside of HB

For DH and I, we haven't used protection since we were married, but the first 18 months were NTNP.

I did chart because we follow NFP (well, i sort of half assed it, but there are charts), but we didn't time BDing or use opks or do anything that would "encourage" getting pregnant. If we wanted to have sex, great, if not, whatever. If we got pregnant, great, but we weren't actively trying it.

For us, TTC = having sex for the purpose of having a baby.

@spaniellove: That's what I've always figured it was too.

@QBbride: I feel the same way as you; if I'm not preventing, I know I'm likely to end up pregnant, so I consider that "trying". I do think there are various "levels" of trying, if that makes sense, but IMO, it all falls into the "trying" bucket since pregnancy is the known outcome of unprotected sex.

I only heard about it from HB, but it's also the only parenting/TTC site I use.

NTNP for me was mostly laziness. After LO #1 I didn't want to get back on BCP, and no other birth control option sounded great to DH or me. So, we were NTNP - we didn't actually *want* to get pregnant 5 months PP, but if it happened, so be it. Around 8 months PP I decided I *did* want to get pregnant again, so our mindset changed and we started trying to time things to purposefully have a baby.

I think it is a term common to people in a lot of online fertility/pregnancy/parenting forums to separate people who are "passively trying" (i.e. not preventing) vs. "actively trying" (charting/opks/etc)

@QBbride: I feel the same way, you are either preventing or trying.

For us, we weren't trying but we weren't preventing either. It wasn't our goal to have a baby but we also understood how babies were made and were aware that it could happen. And, if it did great! If it didn't, that would be great too. We didn't end up getting pregnant until we actively decided to turn our fun time into a more productive fun. We paid attention to ovulation at thay point where we hadn't been when we were NTNP.

@Mrs Hedgehog: That's pretty much exactly what DH and I were doing.

We did get KU while NTNP. The main difference between then and now, is that I wasn't poring over my charts daily, so I didn't even POAS until 20+ DPO.

Now come day 9 or 10, I'm itching to pee on something.

I wish I could go back to NTNP...but I think once you "try" it's nearly impossible to really go back!

But even still, now I feel like I'm more in the TTC limbo. I know I'm not "trying" as hard as some (I haven't forced or planned BDing on specific days) but I am charting more intensely and using OPKs to verify if my cycles are returning to normal)

@wonderstruck: the only time we have ntnp is when we wanted to have another but weren't set on doing that right away, so we sort of left it to chance. Seems like that's the only time I hear of others ntnp too. But I guess in that scenario we were ttc? Idk.

What about people who don't believe in using bc?

Ntnp is a weird thing!

@googly-eyes: I guess I just see having sex without using protection as trying to get pregnant. Like I said, if you aren't using protection and you don't want to get pregnant, I don't understand that. But then again, I've never been in a position like you describe where I wanted to have another but didn't care how soon it happened - DH and I never stop using protection until we're fully ready and want to get pregnant.

For people who don't want to get pregnant but don't believe in birth control, I'd still consider charting to prevent pregnancy to be preventing. If they're not even doing that...well, go back to what I said before.

I guess I just really can't wrap my mind around NTNP because I'm such a planner, I hate leaving things to chance!

I think NTNP should really be called tempting fate. I think if you aren't protecting, then you are kind of trying.

@Radish: Hah! I agree that is a more accurate phrase.

@Adira: this is pretty much how I see it.

We aren't using BC so if we end up pregnant that's great but I also won't be disappointed if I get AF. TTC would be to pay attention to cycles and time BD accordingly.

I guess NTNP is the most laid back approach to a possible pregnancy.

@wonderstruck: I get that too! If I had gotten pregnant I still would have called that child "planned" rather than a "surprise" or an "oopsy baby" because we were open to another child. I guess ntnp has been more "not trying very hard."

@rattles: I think this is the perfect way to describe it.

We pulled the goalie earlier than planned b/c I was to lazy to fill my bcp one month. I figured I would just track when my period was via the MyDays app and sort of go from there. We were definitely open to pregnancy but we weren't actively trying to have a baby. Of course, I forgot to check on my timing one month and 9 months later. . .

@rattles: Yep. This.