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I'm sorry you had such a traumatic experience, I hope you are able to move forward soon.
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What an awful ordeal you had to endure, but I love that you are able to put a positive spin on it. He is a beauty! Congrats on your sweet baby.
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So sorry to hear
hope you're recovering well. He is adorable! I love his little legs stretched out on the scale!
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I'm sorry to hear about your traumatic birth experience and no one being on your side. Take the time that you need to heal and enjoy that absolutely beautiful baby boy.
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@Nskillet: I do not think that c-sections are evil. I have clients who have scheduled sections. I would however advocate for a woman who didn't want one and didn't need one. That is my role as a doula. My birth experiences have never influenced my treatment of a client.
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Congrats on your gorgeous and amazing boy. I'm so sorry about your horrible experience. I hope you are recovering well from the cs and tooth. So great that he's such a good sleeper
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@HTownMom: I'm actually having a meeting with all the doctors involved. I am just hopeful that this can be a learning experience for them.
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@junebugmama: using words and descriptions like "my son was ripped from my body" and other inflammatory language to describe your experience speaks to the contrary in my opinion.
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@Nskillet: That was my experience. You can't discount the way that I felt during MY birth. You don't get to do that.
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@junebugmama: all I have said is your descriptions feed into negative stigma and perceptions with csections. It is unfortunate.
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@Nskillet: My birth was negative because of the way I was treated. I feel the way I do about my c-section because it was forced for no reason, because I was abandoned by my care provider, because my birth was put to vote by a panel of doctors, because I had no say, because I became a statistic. Not because I had a c-section.
Here's a good read:
"A good birth doesn't have to be a hippy dippy 'natural' birth, all candles, knitting midwives and placenta smoothies. Many women who have hospital births that don't go the way they planned and end in interventions such as caesareans, report feeling positive about what happened. This is because how a woman is spoken to and treated as she has her baby is much much more important than the actual mode of delivery."
http://www.bestdaily.co.uk/your-life/news/a573059/a-healthy-baby-is-not-all-that-matters.html
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@junebugmama: you are so brave and fought the c/s more than I would have. This was your experience you are allowed to tell it as it happened to you, ignore the haters.
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@junebugmama: "My birth was negative because of the way I was treated. I feel the way I do about my c-section because it was forced for no reason, because I was abandoned by my care provider, because my birth was put to vote by a panel of doctors, because I had no say, because I became a statistic. Not because I had a c-section."
Thank you for adding this, I think it's a valuable clarification of your feelings on your birth.
And while it's not a consolation to a traumatic birth, your son is beautiful.
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That isn't a good read. It is one narrow view-point based on a society of women now morally opposed to medical intervention due to their at times unrealistic expectations for labor and delivery. You don't always get what you "want". Most women want a healthy baby at all costs.
I would gather any woman who has lost a baby during birth would say that article is just to further enable people to feel guilty about NOT becoming one of the statistics from complications from cesarean birth. No one ever discusses success just the mental anguish after the fact.
I do not wish to further this debate you have quite the reputation on these boards and I know we will not agree.
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@Nskillet: This is a fresh, traumatic, and difficult experience. You do not get to question her feelings towards her own birth. I'm sorry for being rude, but I can't just watch a person who is suffering through trauma be "corrected" right now. It is neither the time or the place. You are out of line.
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What a beautiful baby. Congratulations.
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@Nskillet: A poster's birth story is not the place for judgment, especially a traumatic birth story. I'm shocked that you'd bring that here.
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I really feel that when describing ones own experience it's not disrespectful to be honest about how it made you feel even if its dramatic. I have read many birth stories and even my own talked about the amazing relief and paradise that was an epidural. Some people might find that unfortunate if they feel epidurals are overused but that was my experience and its my right to share it just as I think OP has the right to be honest about how she felt. I think surgeons are amazing and it's wonderful that they save so many babies with c sections but clearly this did not feel like an emergency situation to her but a violation. If the thread were about c sections in general I would agree but sharing a birth story means being true to ones own feelings.
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@Nskillet: We certainly don't have to agree on my birth story or my feelings surrounding it. My "reputation" has nothing to do with that.
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Congrats! He's beautiful.
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@oliviaoblivia: that's what I was coming here to say.
@Nskillet: there is definitely a place to talk about c sections, but a birth story thread is not the place. You could certainly start another thread to discuss it.
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You have such a handsome son! I'm so sorry that your birth experience turned out this way.
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@junebugmama: I was wondering about your birth experience. I'm so sorry that you feel the way you do. I hope looking back gets easier. He is gorgeous and perfect and I'm so jealous of how calm and sleepy he is
@Nskillet: seriously? I believe your need to start an argument in her birth story thread is a bit tacky.
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@Arden: @oliviaoblivia: @MrsMccarthy: @Leialou: @Mrsjets: thanks
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@junebugmama: what a bittersweet story. Your hospital experience sounds awful, but the pictures of your baby are so sweet. Love all his hair! I'm glad you can already see a silver lining to all of this.
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@Nskillet: your comments are totally unnecessary in this thread. Shame on you.
@junebugmama: thanks for sharing your story. I hope you find healing about the birth experience. And congrats on your gorgeous boy!
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I agree with the many posters above that this isn't a good time or place to discuss the merits of c-sections.
@junebugmama: Congratulations on your beautiful baby!!
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@junebugmama: I'm so sorry that things ended up like this. I hope you have a swift recovery and admire the fact that you are using your experience to help your doctors grow and learn. Go Mama! Jace is also adorable
As an aside, very well said, @MrsMccarthy:
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He's so gorgeous!! I'm glad things are going well now but my heart aches for you. No one should have to go through that.
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@Nskillet: She's been through a lot and is hurting and still dealing with the trauma she went through. You can have your opinions but this isn't the place to put them.
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@Nskillet: I had a c-section and could not disagree with you more. How awful to use someone's difficult birth story as an opportunity to lecture them.
@junebugmama: I am so sorry you had such a horrible experience with little support and just not feeling heard. No mother deserves that. I'm glad you've been blessed with an easygoing little guy, he is simply adorable.
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congratulations on your healthy baby.
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Congrats on your beautiful son.
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@junebugmama: congrats on your beautiful new son. I think his name is awesome! I hope you recover in all the ways you need to so you can focus on your new family!
Everyone else, I think there are enough nskillet scoldings, personally.
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@junebugmama: First, congratulations on your beautiful boy. That is one head of hair to be envied!!
I can't believe they pushed back so hard on you. It doesn't sound like they took one moment to step away from the situation and think. Excuse me, but I hope they feel like sh*t in the aftermath. I am so wary of ultimatums, because everyone has had that patient who proves us wrong. We put way too much trust in technology. At least tell me that the OBs do the ultrasounds themselves and not just techs...
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Wow. @Nskillet's comments started off as a caution to the OP's experience and how it might project into her job...I don't believe she was trying to open a discussion on the merits of c-sections in any way. The multiple scoldings and shaming are completely unnecessary considering she chose to end the discussion.
@junebugmama: I'm really sorry you had such a negative experience and your health care providers let you down. I hope you are able to come to a resolution. Your boys are seriously beautiful!
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@Sammyfab: And when OP tried to explain to her not to worry and that she supports her C-section clients, she continued to shame her and tear apart the wording of her freaking birth story. If it had been one post I would agree with @googly-eyes that enough has been said about it - but it was not one post, they continued to get worse, and it was incredibly inappropriate for her to demean the OP in the comments on her birth story, personally I'm glad people commented on it to help the OP feel supported instead of ignoring it.
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@wonderstruck: ok...the first 2 posts I don't think were 'shameful' and I personally would have stopped there. I still stand by the multiple scoldings being unnecessary - at least with some of the language that was used. A simple 'this is not the time nor place' would have been sufficient.
I will say that @junebugmama responded in a very level-headed manner so kudos to her for that.
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@junebugmama: Before I read your story, I jumped down to the photos and thought, "why is this lady so upset? Her baby is BEAUTIFUL and he's all that matters." But then, I read your story. I am horrified for you and your experience with the c-section anesthesia. I like your quote: "I told her to fuck off. Because a healthy baby isn't all that matters. The mother matters. The feelings, her experience, and the way she is treated matters." <<I believe this. And I'm sorry I initially misjudged
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@CupQuakeWalk: I loved that quote too. L&d is a happy place, but it's also scary!
hope you're recovering well. He is adorable! I love his little legs stretched out on the scale!
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