I'm in favor of nanny cams!
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Yea!! They have camera's at day care, so I see nothing wrong with having them at home.
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I don't have one, but I would be okay with it. I would, however, tell my nanny that we had one.
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as long as employees are made aware of the possibility of being filmed prior, i think it's fine
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I am in favour of them in principle but I think the nanny needs to be informed about them. I mean he/she might take a phone call while the child is napping and say something really rude about you, like you had a fat arse or something..... then what would you do? Or they might scratch their bum or let off a huge fart when they thought they were alone in the room. I'd be mortified if someone secretly filmed me!!
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I've used them before, so obvs. I am in favor.
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We have one and our nanny is aware of it.
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I'm fine with it.
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I would use one, but tell the nanny that they are in every room except the bathroom and master bedrom (with the understanding that there's no need for nanny and LO to be in the master).
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I wouldn't hesitate in the least. I figure it's my right to know my child is safe.
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I don't think disclosure is necessary. Outside of the bathroom or a spare bedroom, the nanny has no expectation of privacy . . . Just like I don't at work.
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I am a nanny and I am totally fine with them -- as long as I know about them. I just prefer to know I am not being watched (ie make sure I go to the bathroom) when I adjust my underwear or something equally not suitable for public viewing
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@MsLipGloss: My only argument there is that I have taken care of young babies, been thrown up on or had the baby have a majorly explosive diaper and taken my shirt off while cleaning them up first since it's covered (I always have a change of clothes). In ten years it has happened twice but it was awfully nice to know they weren't live streaming it at work...
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@Cole: That makes sense. You have me reconsidering my disclosure stance!
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I am for them. I would disclose that I am using one.
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Definitely!
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As a nanny, I'm fine with them as long as there is disclosure. Being filmed unknowingly is a huge breach of privacy, in my opinion.
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@Cole: I think that's why I would only do it after telling a nanny. If I were the nanny, there might be times where the baby spit up on my shorts or that I wanted to pick a wedgie. If I knew my empoyers could be watching, I would take care of those things in the bathroom...but if I *knew* they didn't have cameras, I would totally take care of all that while watching the baby.
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No. I have been a nanny and honestly I wouldn't work for a family that taped me. And no disclosure?! Absolutely not. How would you feel if your workplace had unknowingly been taping you I wonder?
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I can see both sides, I think the downside of disclosing it is that if they know they're being watched in certain rooms, a person with bad intentions is going to do those things out of range, like outside the house.
I do agree on the physical privacy, though, but when I am at work and I have to make a clothing adjustment, I do it in the ladies room, not in my office with the glass wall! Granted, I have never been pooped or puked on while in the office, so I give a waiver for that!
I think the real message to nannys though, is that even if your employer isn't watching, other moms and caregivers may be. Technology is all over the place, so no where is really private.
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@Anagram: That's really my logic too, I just want to know if someone caught that on tape.
I have heard some people who think that one plus of telling the nanny is that if a nanny is about to snap she might think twice about it being recorded. Obviously you still don't want that person caring for your child but I assume at that point there are other red flags and it would have kept your child from being hit or shaken etc.
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@PermaStudent: It's not a breach of privacy in the sense that the footage is being used for the purposes of monitoring a child's well-being. And as an employee, with a few exceptions, there is no expectation of privacy with your employer.
I do, however, see how it could be a breach of trust, and that's certainly not how I would ever want my nanny to feel. I would want him/her to feel trusted and valued, and for that reason alone, I would consider disclosing the cameras.
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@Greentea: I don't expect any part of what I do at work (with the exception of confidential client communications) to be private. I am an open book, both in day-to-day work stuffs and electronically.
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@looch: I 100% agree on the fact that the community is a valuable asset. Obviously, the parents always know the places we visit and I have built relationships with the members of the community. I know that people have reported back to the parents about me on many, many occasions, they have always been good reports but I also know that no one would hesitate to tell them if I was out of line. I would encourage all parents to ask around at places the nanny takes the children, it's just another way to make sure you are getting exactly the care you expect.
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Yes! I see both sides also to disclosure.
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I don't have one, and I have not considered getting one. That said, if I did I would disclose. My nanny is my employee, and when I am making decisions about her I take a step back and think about how I want to be treated as an employee. To me, that means full disclosure of all means and methods of monitoring and assessing her.
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@MsLipGloss: right. I think my bottom line is I would only want to be hired by someone that trusted me. Trust is huge in that position. It is more the point of it - I have nothing to hide - so I don't need to be taped - and I would hope the family that hired me felt the same way - otherwise don't hire me! I think trust is huge in this particular field (as I said).
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Yes!
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@MsLipGloss: that's totally fine that you don't expect any privacy at work. I'm just saying that from my point of view, if I were being filmed and watched without my knowledge, I would feel like my privacy had been breached. That's why I added the, "in my opinion".
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I'm for it, but agree with many PPs that I would tell the nanny about it. I wouldn't necessarily say what rooms or the locations of the cameras - but yeah, that way she'd know to head to the bathroom if there's a situation where LO has gone down for a nap and she needs to change a puked on shirt, or make a clothing adjustment, or have a private cell phone conversation...anything like that. No, I don't do that stuff at work, but I also work in a place where I can leave the home during my breaks, which is not something a nanny is able to do.
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I agree with everything @greentea said. That said, I don't do anything I wouldn't do in front of my bosses. In our home or outside of our home.
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@PermaStudent: I really appreciate you sharing that because when I was originally thinking about this topic, the only point of view I had was as a parent who wanted to protect her child. Your point of view really helps to bring other issues into consideration, and helps to round out/broaden my perspective.
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@wonderstruck: yeah, I do all kiiinds of private things at work like, pumping in my back room and changing into workout clothes at the end of the day in my closed office. Also, at the end of every day, I close my door and change my bra (I put a pumping bra on to pump on my way home from work).
I wouldn't mind a nanny pumping in front of my kid and I would totally hire someone that had a baby of their own and needed to pump. However, I wouldn't expect her to be okay with me videotaping it.
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I'm in favor! I would probably let the nanny know that we did have a few security cameras set up, but I wouldn't say where I don't think..maybe just kind of a "hey we have security cameras set up throughout the house!" kind of thing.
I would not be too excited about being secretly taped.
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Well, my thinking on this has obviously changed due to my current situation. I'm all for nanny cams. I would disclose.
Of course then I'd be worried that the nanny would then do bad things in the bathroom where there weren't any cameras.
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We don't use one - I've Personally never felt the need. My thinking is that if I'm going to leave my children with this woman, at some point I have to trust her...and if I have any doubts that she's trustworthy, she will be out the door.
That said, I understand why some families want to, and think they are within their rights to do so as long as they disclose, and the cameras are in common areas only (not bathrooms or the nanny's room, in the case of a live-in). I also think in some instances, a camera could protect a nanny who did the right thing in a tragic situation (by proving that an accident really was an accident, that they were checking regularly on a napoing baby, that they did CPR and called 911, etc.) - so it's a win win.
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@PinkElephant: I like your reasoning here.
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@MsLipGloss: you're right, and I don't have the point of view of being a parent yet. I can appreciate your thoughts as well! It's a good topic.
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@Cole: I'm with you on this one! There have been explosive poo occasions where I've taken my shirt off so as not to get poop everywhere & wrapped myself in a blanket to run & grab a shirt from my bag in another room. I've also had occasions where kids are using the bathrooms to rinse off after swimming & I've changed out of my suit in one of their bedrooms because I don't go in master bedrooms & their doors had a lock, so I assumed I had privacy.
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@mrsjazz: I thought about that too, but I would be suspicious in general if I watched the cam and saw nanny taking my LO into the bathroom often. LO hands can be washed at the kitchen sink, and potty breaks can be done while LO is contained in the living room.
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