grapefruit / 4311 posts
@bluestriped bee: I was just going to chime in and say also when I was participating in 6mo+ threads, a lot of us were dealing with miscarriages, chemical pregnancies, recovery, etc that was extending our TTC, but not necessarily at RE level.
bananas / 9229 posts
@doxielove: @MrsMcD: @Crystal: I cautiously joined the IF threads despite not receiving treatment, Because, honestly, after 1 year of trying, that qualifies as infertility, whether I want to believe it or not. And some people choose not to take active steps to be diagnosed or treated, whether that's voluntary or due to financial reasons to what. I wasn't sure how others would take my posting - would they "accept" me. But they've been so welcoming, just like anywhere else on HB! And a lot of them have been through being diagnosed, medications, etc. which is helpful when you're sitting in limbo land still. It's ultimately a person preference to post there though!
grapefruit / 4028 posts
@LindsayInNY: Thank you for sharing! This really is an overwhelmingly welcoming community.
apricot / 390 posts
I feel the same as many of the others. It's only been 9 cycles for us, we now know that we're also facing endometriosis. But, many women get pregnant in spite of that, so I'm just not sure that I belong there yet and don't want to step on their toes or make them feel like I know what they are going through.
I spent most of the day relatively miserable because af is just around the corner and I have killer cramps and back pain from the endo. I went to the chiropractors today and there was a mom with 3 sweet little boys, 1 month to 5 years old. Everyone gushed over them the whole time, the receptionist, the dr, etc. He even kept carrying on about how cute they are and about his new grandson through the whole adjustment...I wanted to tell him to just stfu. It was obviously more than I could handle today.
apricot / 390 posts
@LindsayInNY: I'm sorry that today was a rough one for you! Hopefully by now you're off and doing something special for yourself!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@runnerd: @LindsayInNY: I'm on my phone so I don't have the chance to reply to everyone but I think our IF group is very welcoming. Please join, if you feel like it. You don't have to have certain boxes to check off to be IF. I'm all about IF awareness and I don't think there is a specific criteria. Well, other than RESoLVE's definition.
"Infertility is defined as the inability to conceive or carry a pregnancy to term after 12 months of trying to conceive. If you are over the age of 35, the time of trying to conceive is reduced to 6 months. "
(ETA- I don't even fit this category. Haha. I felt like I had IF at cycle 8 when my second IUI failed.)
I know there are people like me with primary IF and others with secondary IF. IF is hard no matter how many children you have or don't have. I do think that personal experiences may make it seem like you have it harder than others but I think it's just normal to think that.
Then there's others who have had chemical pregnancies and miscarriages.
Then there's others who have IF and don't feel like that want any type of intervention.
You all know that I'm fairly open with my IF struggle. I have a tattoo on my wrist and I'm not ashamed to admit I have IF. I know this can be a private battle and others are more open or quiet about it.
The reason I asked this question because I was curious about if people feel ashamed to post in IF. I hope none of you fell unwelcome by our group. It might be a personal battle where maybe you haven't fully accepted being... gasp! The horrible word... Infertile.
I can easily use the word Infertility and proudly say it but the word Infertile is so harsh to me. I hardly ever use that word. Haha. Weird. I know.
Any way, please don't feel like you need to check off a certain box to post on IF boards. I actually think actively posting on the IF boards can promote IF awareness. Probably the reason I post on those threads. I'm sick of being hidden away. IF can make me feel so alone sometimes. Oh, don't even get me started when I found out users were purposely hiding the IF boards. Made me a tiny bit angry. Ok, that was lie. I was really pissed, but that the IF talking.
Anyway, I'm still on my phone so I'll get off my soapbox.
ETA: I do have to admit that my IF opinions have evolved over time. Sorry if I scared anyone. LOL! From when I had my first IUI to where I am now (starting IVF), it's so different.
honeydew / 7916 posts
I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes by commenting here...but when we originally started the IF boards/threads there was certainly no expectation about seeing an RE, getting treatment, etc. It's just a place to get support when you feel this thing has gone on too long and you want to be in the company of others who know what it's like to be a bit jaded or fatigued. Everyone gets there at a different point, and that's okay - we all have our reasons.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@spaniellove: Thanks for popping in! Yup, I remember when the IF boards were created. I was so excited to have our own board. So happy to see you have graduated from IF and your LO will be here so very soon. Your journey gives me hope!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@doxielove: @MrsMcD: The IF threads that I participate in, I fully understand and respect users who don't seek treatments. Treatments can be very personal. Then there's the money aspect of it. Some people want IUI or IVF. Some people don't want to use meds. Some people prefer accupunture. Some prefer adoption over medical interventions. I'm open to it everything but surrogacy, at this point, and it because of the personal aspect of it. I think my sisters would offer to be a surrogate but I don't want to deal with the possible drama that might come out of it.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I don't identify people with IF by the treatments they are taking. It's mainly their experiences and also time. I've noticed that someone who has been TTC for 5 months can differ a lot compared to someone who has been TTC for 8 month or 13 months.
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
@spaniellove: @bluestriped bee: thank you both! I appreciate your insight. I have definitely enjoyed participating on the IF boards and thought everyone was very welcoming.
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
How is everyone feeling today? I'm feeling meh about this cycle. Because of the HSG, we are only really getting 2 - 3 BD attempts in during my fertile week. Monday I was really hopeful because the HSG went well but I think yesterday I started thinking about how much I hate BFN and how sad they make me. I'm trying to have an f it attidue this cycle.
kiwi / 693 posts
@littlek: Hopefully you'll find you have good luck after an HSG! Everyone has a story about how someone they know got KU right after an HSG. But I do think an eff it attitude is sometimes good...or at least freeing. There's only so long you can sustain thinking 24/7 about TTC, and sometimes it's good to just let things go a bit (and only think about it like 12/7, ha!).
grapefruit / 4028 posts
@littlek: I hope the eff it attitude gets you the BFP you want! At least, that seems to be the case for many. Do you POAS early and often?
@Sprite: LOL @ 12/7. I wish- I even dream about it most nights. How are you doing?
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@littlek: I really think the F It attitude is sort of the way to go. You can just do your best and nothing more.
I'm still pretty much F It about the whole thing. But I did make an appointment with my general doctor for March 7 in the am. I want to see what she says about me TTC. I can't get an appointment with my OBGYN until May. F that. Haha.
kiwi / 693 posts
@Crystal: I don't dream about it, but my mind definitely has trouble going back to sleep after I wake up to temp every morning.
I'm doing OK, just hoping for good news at my monitoring appointment tomorrow, crossing my fingers we'll get the green light to trigger tomorrow night, for IUI Sunday. I've had a headache for 10 days straight now, and am eager to get off the meds I"m on! How are you doing?
@MrsMcD: Oh wow, May 7th to see your gyno?? That is nuts. Hopefully your appointment in March brings some good ideas for next steps. Is there anything in particular you want to get out of the appointment, or are you hoping for a referral to an RE or anything?
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
@MrsMcD: wow.. May.. that's crazy. Hopefully you won't need that appt!
apricot / 390 posts
@littlek: I really hate BFN's too...so I thought I would just stop testing, but lo and behold, my period pisses me off just as much
Every time that I start not to think about it 24/7 something else comes up to make me think about it. I have had a few opportunities to take on some leadership positions lately at work, and I don't know what to do. I REALLY want to say yes, but I know that I'm not feeling that great most of the time and I'm not even doing my best at work right now, so taking on more doesn't really make a lot of sense, especially knowing that I will most likely be needing to take a week off for surgery as it is. When you combine that with my own inability to focus 100% on anything but TTC and it makes it even harder to commit to things.
I dunno, maybe I just need to commit and give myself something else to worry about to distract myself.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Sprite: Wow! I didn't know you were gearing up for an IUI in less than a week! That is awesome!!! My fingers are crossed for you!
As for my obgyn... I am going in May for an annual well-woman exam. I plan to wait until that appointment to discuss how to proceed with TTC since I will have been actively trying for 12 cycles by that point in time. My insurance only covers one well-woman exam a year and also requires me to wait until TTC for 12 months before coming in for that kind of an appointment. Damn HMO. I'm sticking with it though, over a PPO, as long as I can keep my good doctors and hospitals.
As for my appointment next week with my normal doctor, I'm not expecting her to do much. I just want to let her known I've been struggling to conceive and would appreciate any comments or suggestions or super strong magical medicine she may be able to offer me.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@littlek: Thanks! I hope that none of us need any upcoming appointments!
apricot / 390 posts
@MrsMcD: If you get any super strong magical medicine, will you share it with the rest of us
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@owlteach: I totally hear about you about needing something to distract yourself. But don't have that distraction be more work! My husband did a sort of long term rent of a horse for me as a christmas present. That helps distract me. I also try to plan out the meals I will be cooking at home. That oddly takes up so much of my thought process and can lead to hours of internet "research". Also, looking at real estate sites like Redfin and dreaming about our next home purchase (years away, but still...). Focus on things you enjoy!!
coconut / 8475 posts
@littlek: what day did they give you hsg?
For this cycle, we decided to do the HSG (cd 10) and up the Clomid (to 100mg) w/ monitoring. So, waiting on AF any minute now.
Also, we're calling a RE tomorrow, but I don't know how long until he gets us in.
RE girls: how long from the first call to the first appointment with your RE? I heard they're insanely busy.
@MrsMcD: do you think it's anovulation?
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@CupQuakeWalk: Do I think what is anovulation? Sorry, I'm lame and not following.
pear / 1548 posts
Today, and really this whole week, I've felt just so drained. Work is slowly killing me. I really need a new job and cannot wait for hiring season to start. I honestly think that the stress from my job is a big factor in our ability to conceive. I'm set to O any day no and just have 0 energy to do anything about it, but if we want to have any chance this month then I need to just buck up and get it done!
It also doesn't help that I have been stress eating this week. At the end of the day today I sat at my desk and shoved Oreos in my mouth, one after another. *sigh*
nectarine / 2192 posts
I'm having a rough day. Lots of work issues. I got a medical bill (we shouldn't since we still have money in our HSA). I found out that for my breast biopsy I had a month ago, the hospital billed me $3500 IN ADDITION to the doctor who did the biopsy and the doctor who read the pathology report. This is extra frustrating because I would have done it in December when my deductible was met, but they told me I didn't need it in December, then I got a call 2 weeks later saying I really did need it. Plus, we have to change insurances in April when DH changes jobs, so none of this cost will go toward the new deductible. So I have to call them tomorrow and complain, which really stresses me out.
My doctor thinks that stress and bad luck is why I'm not pregnant yet, and I keep trying to lower my stress, but these darn work issues and stupid medical bills make that really hard. I'm so angry with these issues and TTC and just need a break.
pear / 1548 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: *hugs* sounds like we have similar problems today!!! Sorry about the medicial bill frustration- $3500 is a lot to be saddled with unexpectedly!
nectarine / 2192 posts
@Boopers: YES! Super similar. I am looking for a new job. I had a great interview 3 months ago, and was told I should be getting a second interview in a month. Still no word, though I have heard from everyone they are super slow. I keep looking for other openings, but no luck. Stupid stress!
GOLD / coconut / 8266 posts
@CupQuakeWalk: just jumping in to say that I got in the day I called my RE and he's the best on Long Island. He happened to have a cancellation so fingers crossed you'll get in quickly!
coconut / 8475 posts
@MrsMcD: oops sorry---I meant, what do you have a hunch the issue moor the last 12m may be?
coconut / 8475 posts
@littlek: ok gotch ya. My OB told me to call on cd1 to make an appointment for cd 10 and no unprotected sex before the test.
cantaloupe / 6687 posts
@Boopers: sorry it's been so stressful. I can relate to stress eating...I can't stop eating everything around me even when my stomach is clearly full. At least it's Friday tomorrow....hopefully you have a fun and/or relaxing weekend planned
@AmeliaBedilia: dealing with medical bills is so annoying and stressful. Hope your Friday is better and you can treat yourself this weekend
@CupQuakeWalk: so happy to hear you have a plan for moving forward. Can't wait for an update from you soon.
@littlek: I'm totally "meh" too...can't even fake excitement...i even forgot to do my OPK yesterday bc I'm just kind of checked out this cycle
apricot / 390 posts
@Boopers: I'm sorry that work is so rough right now, when it rains, it pours :(.
@sandy: @Boopers: Ohhhh....the stress eating, I really need to get my self control and work-out motivation back, but I just can't!
@MrsMcD: Yeah, I really love my job and this new responsibility is something I would normally be thrilled about, but I'm not really sure that I can give it the time and effort that it deserves right now.
nectarine / 2192 posts
@sandy: Thanks!
@Boopers: I know this is not PC, but I have always avoided or dreaded baby showers even before TTC. I think if I went to one, I might end up in jail.
cherry / 173 posts
I'm a little late to the party but wanted to touch on something previously mentioned by ameliabedelia regarding MTHFR. I actually have this condition. It is a genetic condition, so in order to have it you would have had to inherit it from your parents whether it be one or both of them. In my case both of my genes are affected meaning I am homozygous. I also have another genetic clotting disorder called a prothrombin gene mutation, but for that one only one gene is mutated meaning heterozygous. These two mutations put me at an incredibly high risk of miscarraige and other complications. I have already been advised that when I do become pregnant I will need to be on daily lovenox injections which is a blood thinner similar to heparin. Hopefully this info helps you guys in some way. Here is a link with a lot of info on MTHFR. https://sites.google.com/site/drjoneskids/mthfr
cherry / 173 posts
Oh I guess I should introduce myself as well:
I'm 31, currently in the middle of O week of ttc cycle 7.
No kids yet just fur 2 babies a Bouvier named Hemi, and a Husky named Lily.
I have not undergone any testing yet but have been given a referral to a RE and have an appointment on 4/10.
I also love to bake and go extra crazy during the holidays, my family loves it though cause everyone ends up getting sent home with goodies!
GOLD / squash / 13576 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: Ugh that's the worst. High medical bills are the worst, you have to pay for the service but its not a "fun" way to spend your money.
I broke down to DH about the "cost" of getting pregnant. I think I was worried he would not want to spend the money (insurance doesn't cover treatment except IVF) and he pretty much told me that "money wasn't an object." That's nice but I feel bad because he was wanting to switch to a lower paying job which is more the direction he wants his career to go. He's currently on the corporate side and he wants to go back to consulting. He has greater growth potential in consulting but he will need to take a small backtrack relating to salary to make this switch...
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