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TTC After Loss Part II

  1. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: Yeah, loss is so much like TTC in reverse. It took 6 weeks for a HPT to be negative - it was still clearly positive after my first period but thankfully disappeared soon after that. The irony - the universe laughing at me for those months where I wanted nothing more desperately than to see a second line.

  2. theotherstark

    pomegranate / 3045 posts

    @winniebee: you give me hope can't wait to "meet" your newest peanut!!

  3. theotherstark

    pomegranate / 3045 posts

    @bhbee: yep! It's funny how quickly you go from desperately wanting to see a line to desperately hoping the lines fades more quickly.

  4. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: yes #1 is definitely a different ball game. I can't wait for you to get that rainbow baby

  5. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee:

  6. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @bhbee: When's your next beta? I go in tomorrow am and am so hoping it bottomed out! I'm getting greedy!

  7. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @knittylady: I'm not having any follow up since my situation was pretty straightforward. So I'm on the "take cheapies and wait for ewcm" plan! I swear though I have so many poas photos and such saved (especially from my early losses) that I can practically predict hcg ballpark anyway

  8. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    So I already posted this on the other poas thread, but I got a today! I think I'm still in shock, given that it took us longer last time. It does make me kind of wonder if there's truth in a fertility boost after loss - I noticed more CM and a bigger temp shift then I'd seen in the past. I have decided to be excited from the beginning this time - even if it doesn't last long, I still want to savor it while it lasts.

  9. Raspberry

    kiwi / 598 posts

    @periwinklebee: Great attitude, congratulations and best of luck!!

  10. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: yay for being excited! I am trying to tell myself I will be calmer/happier if it happens again too. And I love hearing the post mc bump helped! I really hope this is it for you!

  11. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @periwinklebee: congrats! I hope this is a bring home baby.

  12. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @knittylady: When do you find out the results of your beta?

  13. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @ALV91711: should hear sometime today. They're also testing for blood clotting disorders because of the recurrent miscarriage issue. Not sure when I hear about that...

  14. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @knittylady: Hopefully you don't have to wait too long, I hate waiting for test results.

  15. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @Raspberry: @ALV91711: Thank you!

    @bhbee: It's weird, I know a lot of women find pregnancy more difficult after loss, but for right now at least I feel calmer than last time. I know our odds are no better or worse but I think I'm just now recovering from being completely drained emotionally from the last pregnancy and loss, and I just don't have a lot of energy to put into worrying - I'll deal with it when/if it happens and I don't think anything I can do now will make that scenario any easier. It also helps that this is not my first pregnancy this time, I feel all the early pregnancy symptoms that disappeared only a couple of weeks ago (hello sensitive smell) coming back, and I'm like "yup, been there..."

    How's your recovery going?

  16. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @knittylady: I hope you get your results soon. For me, hcg fell really fast at first and then very slowly subsequently (like 2 weeks to go from 50,000 to 150, then 4 weeks to go from 150 to 8, but during that time I had a period and ovulated). I've heard other bees have exactly the opposite - slow at first and then quick at the end. I hope you are able to feel like yourself soon.

  17. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: I love your peaceful mindset

    I'm doing ok. Bleeding has been pretty light. Yesterday I felt pretty ok about things all day, today I was crying in the kitchen listening to sad songs. So, normal I think my mistake today was taking an hpt. I so want all physical parts to be over and I know it's too soon and it was asking for disappointment. I need your zen!

  18. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    38. Have to go back next week but feel good about it. It was 315 last week...

  19. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: That was me exactly. I found taking hpts upsetting, because it just meant it was going to be that much longer before I was back to normal. And I cried like every single day for the first month, sometimes over real stuff and sometimes just because my hormones were so messed up. I hope you have some good distractions and the next couple of weeks fly by. I found that hormonally I felt much more re-balanced after my first post loss period.

    @knittylady: That's awesome! You're body is doing an amazing job at metabolizing the hcg, much better than mine did. Maybe that's the whole 30 working! I bet you will ovulate soon. I think my hcg was around 10 when I ovulated, it doesn't even have to be zero.

  20. Academicsocialite

    olive / 54 posts

    Sorry I'v e been a bit quiet in posting - I have been reading everyone's updates and feeling alternately sad (thinking of you @bhbee) and thrilled (gentle congratulations to @periwinklebee) for everyone's updates. My update... a bit of an aside to TTC... I found a lump in my breast on Tuesday and have now been referred for a mammogram and u/s. I'm trying not to freak out, but my EDD is tomorrow and I really, really didn't need this layer of anxiety on top of everything else. My appt is tomorrow.

    For the record, 2017 is no friend to me.

  21. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @Academicsocialite: I am so sorry for everything that has been thrown your way lately. I hope the lump is nothing; please keep us updated
    I will be thinking of you tomorrow

  22. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @Academicsocialite: so many hugs I'm so sorry you have to deal with this on top of everything. Please check in tomorrow and vent to us if it is helpful!!

  23. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: I seriously can't wait for a real af! But mostly I need to stop putting a timeline on everything. Let this month be whatever it will be.
    @knittylady: yay for a good drop!

  24. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @Academicsocialite: I'm so sorry. I know sometimes hormone swings can cause lumps that are nothing (I had this happen once when I switched birth control pills). I'm so sorry this is happening now and really hope everything turns out ok.

  25. Academicsocialite

    olive / 54 posts

    @periwinklebee: thank you so much for that reassurance. I'm hoping the same - that it's hormonal or maybe even a milk duct that somehow got clogged when I was wearing too-tight bras, trying to stop my milk from coming in. And at least I'm getting seen tomorrow so I shouldn't have to wait too long for at least a little more information. The bright side is that the nurse practitioner said that otherwise there is no reason, medically speaking, not to start TTC again. So now we just have to work through the emotional side of things... and get over whatever hurdle this boob issue throws at us*

    *trying to keep a sense of humor - not sure it's working.

  26. Academicsocialite

    olive / 54 posts

    @bhbee @mrskansas: thank you both so much for the kind words. It means a lot as I try to stay calm before my appointment tomorrow.

  27. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @Academicsocialite: Thinking of you, and sending prayers and good thoughts going in to tomorrow.

  28. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @Academicsocialite: thinking of you and sending all my best wishes.

  29. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    I told my husband about the last night (I was traveling when I tested) and it was so typical pregnant after loss. His first response was "are you sure, isn't it just left over from last time." And then when I explained that my hcg seemed to be going up: "aren't you testing to zero because it could go up due to abnormal growths?" (we may have had a partial molar pregnancy). And then finally, with considerable skepticism "well, I hope it works." Poor guy, I felt bad. He just got his relatively happy wife back after several months of a complicated pregnancy and then me being a basket case after the loss, and he's probably thinking "here we go again." Since it took us awhile last time, he was expecting more of a break. I promised him that if we have another loss, I will try really hard to have a better grip on my emotions and not be so depressed this time (of course, he's sweet about it and said I was great, but I know I wasn't a fun person to be around.) but yeah, who am I kidding, the hormone drop was no joke... Still really happy, and regardless of what happens glad we're here again!

  30. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @Academicsocialite: thinking of you on your EDD today. My heart breaks for you mama and I'm so sorry you have the appt too. I hope some comfort and peace finds its way to you, if not today then soon. You are a brave warrior!

  31. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: definitely been there. I always feel distance from dh about it honestly but I know that time will help. I think this is also why my dh is not so excited to jump back on the bandwagon. But when you get to an easier stage everyone will be happy!

    Glad you can enjoy every moment with that little bean

  32. Academicsocialite

    olive / 54 posts

    Phew! The lump was just a cyst, albeit a particularly large one, so nothing to worry about. And the tech who did the ultrasound was particularly sweet to me, which helped so much, and told me not to worry at all and that everything would be ok. Thank you so much for all the support from this board. It helped a lot as I was trying to stay calm. Now I just need to get through the rest of this day...

  33. mrskansas

    nectarine / 2813 posts

    @Academicsocialite: so glad to hear that it was just a cyst. What a relief. I hope the rest of the day goes quickly for you

  34. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @Academicsocialite: So glad to hear this! I hope the rest of the day goes quickly

  35. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    How is everyone doing on here? I know we all have a big virtual hug for @periwinklebee: - I hope everyone else is hanging in there!

  36. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @periwinklebee: gets all the hugs and ♥️.

    I had a nice interaction at preschool pickup. They know about the ectopic and helped with getting DS home from school directly post-op and then even did a meal train. One of the moms who actually works with DH, stopped me to ask about dietary stuff for a meal she was making for us and then told me she and her husband have been having a bumpy go of getting to number three as well. It was so nice to talk to her because it's so rare to meet people in this particular situation. We made tentative plns to get together and chat more.

  37. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: @knittylady: Thank you all Your support really means a lot.

    I wrote this on the poas thread, but anyways what we need now is for hcg to fall by Wed and then go to zero. It's so annoying, it was 4 two weeks ago but didn't go below three - which is what my practice considers negative (some have a higher threshold) - so now we have to worry about it being retained tissue and not a CP. If it doesn't fall by Wed we'll have to do an ultrasound and consider treatments for retained tissue. And even if it falls, we have to use contraceptives until they are happy that it has zeroed out. It's fallen by 3 since last Friday, but no sign of bleeding... (AF is now 4 days late)

    @knittylady: It's so great that they've been supportive. I really wish I had more people IRL to talk to about the TTC journey, but when I've tried it hasn't gone that well (no, I don't think the problem is our frequency of sex, I know people mean well but ugh).

  38. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @knittylady: that's great, it's so rare to know irl people to talk to.

  39. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6086 posts

    @periwinklebee: I hope it clears out soon so you don't have to worry. My cp experience was that I usually wouldn't bleed until I was close to 0 (obviously some do). I only knew what was happening because of betas and test lines. I also had my hcg just kind of sit there for a while (like two betas the exact same # 4 days apart) and then fell off quickly at some point. So even if it doesn't fall it may still be normal. But the waiting and wondering is awful. Hoping it doesn't take long

  40. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4466 posts

    @bhbee: Thanks, this is really helpful.. last night I was reading old threads about hpts not getting darker, and I know for some people on those it took a couple of weeks to bleed after a chemical.

    I just worry that my practice is very conservative and tends to advocate invasive treatment. I feel 100% sure this was a CP, I got a BFP at exactly the same time as last time, felt cramping and pinching at exactly the same time, and my hcg was 4 the last draw we did. For this reason, I really don't want invasive tests/treatments for retained tissue, or even to use contraception while we wait for it to go to zero again, as I feel like the elevated hormones may have actually helped us to conceive this time, even though it didn't stick...

    But, as we all know, hcg has a mind of its own, and there's really nothing to do but to get through this, however annoying the followup might be... I'm a bit hesitant to ditch the RE for a less interventionist practice, like midwives, because I worry with our track record that we may ultimately need them to get pregnant.

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