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@looch: When you said you would like to have a parent of an unvaxed child weigh in. I am completely supportive of parents that don't vaccinate their children for medical or religious reasons. My concern is all of the parents who aren't vaccinating their children when nothing is wrong with them, and they should in fact be vaccinated.
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@MrsBrewer: @looch: I think we've been pretty clear (maybe not) that when we speak of people who are anti-vaccinations, we're talking about those that COULD vaccinate their children (no medical or religious reasons not to) but CHOOSE not to. I'd definitely be interested in hearing what they have to say too. Presumably they've done their research and have their reasons for making the decisions they make, but hopefully they understand why parents of vaccinated children (or parents of children who cannot be vaccinated) don't want their kids to hang out together.
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@Adira: eek, I understand that you do what you feel is best for your child, but I can't help feeling sorry for the poor kids that can't get vaccinated (as opposed to the ones that could and won't). Imagine little Billy is on chemo for a childhood cancer and therefore can't be vaccinated yet. He's going through something terrible and on top of all that being shunned by all his former little friends because he can't be vaccinated. Same for the kid that's on immunosuppresents for rhumatological diseases or a transplant. Sick and friendless. That makes me sad.
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@Grace: I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. If someone CAN'T get vaccinated, then that is one thing. I certainly wouldn't ostracize a child that was unvaccinated due to a medical reason. It's the children that CAN be vaccinated and their parents CHOOSE not to get them vaccinated that I wouldn't let my kids hang out with. Hope that makes more sense.
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@Adira: 100% agree with this. This is exactly what I think I will be doing.
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@Adira: Oh, nice. Now I can stop picturing these sad sad kids.
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@MrsBrewer: UGH! I am 34 weeks pregnant right now, and the situation really stresses me out. I actually asked DH last night if he thinks we can get away with dodging his sister and her kids for the first 2 months of our LO's life ... He says he is going to ask his parents about our nieces immunizations, and that he is going to deal with it, because he is with me about keeping unvaxed people away from our LO before it has its immunizations. His sister can be really explosive and self-righteous about things like that sometimes, so I know that there will be a big issue made of it.
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@MsMini: Yikes, that's rough....As long as you and DH are on the same page that's great! I'm sure the decision will be easy for you both too because you are going to be looking out for your own child's health. You might hurt you SIL's feelings, but your child's health and well being should be your 1st priority!!
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@MsMini: Your lucky that your husband is on your side all the way on this! I haven't had this conversation with my husband, but I know he wouldn't really back me up. My husband doesn't worry about stuff like that (or anything really) so he would think I'm just nutty about wanting to keep unvaxed kids away from our vaxed kids. I'm REALLY hoping his sister's children are vaccinated so I won't have to deal with this situation.
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@Grace: @Adira: I agree with you guys. A parent who cannot vax their child due to medical reasons or religious reasons (which I hadnt heard of until coming on here) is probably much less likely to KNOWINGLY have their child around unvaxed kids. Especially if the child has a supressed immune system to begin with.
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@Adira: I reread your posts to see if you made the distinction between medically or religiously exempted children and didn't see it( I am on my phone). Regardless, though, of the reason, the risk stays the same and you( general) have to do what is right for your kid. For me, it doesn't mean automatic exclusion.
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@looch: You're right, I didn't originally mention the medical or religious reasons for not getting vaccinated. I think the thread has been fairly consistent about making the point of the CHOICE involved though. Parents that CHOOSE not to get their kids vaccinated is different that someone who CANNOT get vaccinated, if that makes sense.
Although I wouldn't want my children spending time with unvaccinated kids, I would make an exception for those that cannot get vaccinated, especially due to medical reasons. I feel it would be unfair to exclude these children, as there wasn't a CHOICE in the matter.
What I really want is for ALL parents who CAN to vaccinate their children to strengthen the herd immunity, especially for those children that cannot get vaccinated.
Hopefully that makes sense! Sorry if I was confusing earlier!
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@LivsMama: Good point! I didn't even think of that, but you're right. The parent of a child that cannot get vaccinated due to medical or religious (I actually don't know of any religious reasons either, but if there are some, okay) reasons probably are even more cautious about who their children hang out with since they are at an increased risk to begin with.
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All of the children I ever worked with that weren't able to get vaccinated for health reasons had parents that were very diligent about keeping them safe and disease free. Liam does have a little friend that is undergoing chemotherapy and while they do play together his friend always has a medical mask on and gloves. The number of children that cannot get vaccinated is really quite small.
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@Adira: I am lucky, in that my DH backs up my medical opinions on how to care for our baby, in general, we are really in sync on out theoretical parenting choices (we'll see what happens when LO is born). He is also big on following recommendations, so we will be asking grandparents to get the pertussis vaccine, since the current recommendation is that anyone who spends more than 1 hour around your baby should have it done.
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