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  1. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: Welcome back! How was the trip? Hopefully a nice break from everything

    Let me know how things go for you with getting tests! I had to get a referral from the obgyn and the fertility clinic contacted me within a few hours of the referral (I was impressed!). DH will be getting SA soon and I will be doing day 3 later this month along with hsg and ultrasound.

  2. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: I had a great time in Ireland! It was so nice and beautiful, I definitely want to go back some day.

    I actually heard back from my OB faster than I expected. She told me since I am close to the 1 year mark ( only 3 months away) she told me to call the fertility clinic, which I guess is self referred. I had them order my DH a SA so that we can have that information before the initial consult appointment, it was only 15$ and if it comes back normal I'm going to wait a couple more months before getting that initial consult appointment scheduled ( which is going to be probably $200-$400 out the door). My poor DH though, I think he is really scared =[, but he was very cooperative. I was luckily able to catch him on the phone before they called him to explain the SA to him. I kind of feel like a weight has been lifted though. Now that I have a plan, I can relax a little bit.

  3. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: glad to hear your trip was great! DH and I hope to go someday as well.

    I had no idea the fertility clinic was self referred. Good idea on getting the SA that's a good place to start. I can see how it can be scary for some men as they may feel like it is judgement of their "manhood" which is why I was so surprised DH was totally fine with doing his SA. We live close to the Kaiser so he was able to pick up his cup and bring it home lol... we shall see how it goes!

    It's a great sense of relief to know you have a plan in place isn't it? I'm feeling more prepared for AF this month because I know that if she shows up I already have all the pieces in place to get seen at the clinic.

  4. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: You should definitely go to Ireland!

    They are mailing us a cup so that he can do it at home, and then I think the Kaiser hospital that we have to drop it off at is about 20 minutes away so hopefully we can get it there in time, I guess they told him it has to be there within an hour of the "deposit". It does feel good to have a plan. When is your appointment scheduled for? Did you have to schedule it for CD 3?

  5. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: That's nice that they mailed the cup to your home. I think most people imagine things being the way we have seen in the movies but it's actually seeming to be not as bad as we think!

    I have a lab order for day 3 bloodwork, and I'm supposed to call the fertility clinic the first day of my next cycle to schedule between days 7-12 for ultrasound and hsg. The ob insisted I watch the movie on infertility... did yours tell you to watch it too?

  6. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: Just had to vent. Got the SA results back. Morphology and Count and actually really good....but his motility is low. Which brings me back to me being pissed at my husband for baking his balls in hot yoga. Did I mention he went to hot yoga last night? It's like...well of course your motility is going to be low, because you're killing you're god damn sperm!!! NOW I HAVE PROOF!

  7. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @Tionn3: I can't believe he went back after the last time! SOrry.

  8. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @knittylady: I know =[ I seriously can't tell if the motility is low because of the hot yoga the night before or because of something else. It was 36% and it needs to be 50%...He only had 28% progressive ( completely moving sperm) and it needs to be more than 32%. It's like they are almost low normal...It has to be the heat right? I mean his count was so high. It was 236 million for the whole specimen and 143 million / ml. He has 80 million motile sperm per specimen which I guess is actually ok? I don't know...I need to talk to a medical professional about this to get an idea of if I am freaking out over nothing or not...

  9. Boopers

    pear / 1548 posts

    @Tionn3: I don't remember every number, but my husband had low motility as well. His progressive motility was 16%, but we have been able to conceive twice. The first time took 17 cycles and I just got a BFP after 8 cycles. There is still hope!

  10. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Boopers: That is super encouraging! I guess there is still a more in depth morphology lab that we won't know about until next Friday. I freaked out an scheduled a consult for next Friday so I think maybe I will cancel it and then make a decision after we get that last result back.

  11. knittylady

    pomegranate / 3212 posts

    @Tionn3: I think talking to the docs is absolutely the way to go, BUT I also think it is totally within the realm of normal to say no more hot yoga until the doctors clear it as not affecting the motility.

  12. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @knittylady: I know! I'm gonna try to talk to him about it tonight, we shall see what he says. I at least want him to try. My obgyn friend was saying that it probably doesn't get hot enough in hot yoga to cause any problems. She was surprised they are not having him do the SA again because the motility numbers are just below the cut off, they might be normal on another SA...or they might not be.

  13. Boopers

    pear / 1548 posts

    @Tionn3: also, what I think helped us was BD EOD and we made sure to hit o-2 and o on both cycles we conceived. I wanted to make sure that his progressively motile sperm had a chance to build back up between BD sessions. I think I've read that if there are motility concerns, the closer to O the better. I also used preseed in hopes of getting the sperm that were actually moving a better chance to get where they needed to be. I can't be sure of what actually helped, but those were the common denominators in both successful cycles.

  14. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: I don't know all the details of the SA parameters yet but my friend did tell me that her husband's SA came back "not the greatest" and some sperm were even swimming in the wrong direction. She then went on to have a little boy and girl with no problem! Even though your friend doesn't think the yoga will harm much I'm with you on trying to refrain from any activities that could interfere after having had tried for so many cycles. DH was recently looking at a cycling class and I had to nix that and told him to go running instead! Can I ask if your Kaiser coverage paid for all of the SA? Also, did you schedule a consult for you or for him for Friday?

    DH is going to turn in his SA this week so I'll let you know how that goes. My AF is due the 21st so if she shows up I'll schedule my labs and hsg etc...

    Hang in there... I know this is a tough road but we will get through this and eventually we'll be staring at our own soon enough sending you lots of hugs!

  15. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: I have 50% infertility coverage so the semen analysis was 15$ After our coverage, and we got the results for one of the labs the same day, maybe an hour after it was dropped off. I scheduled a consult for me on Friday, but now I'm thinking about cancelling it...my husband seems convinced that because the total motile count was 80 million that the slightly below values for the motility weren't a big deal. He told me this is what the nurse told him.

  16. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: that's really great coverage! We are 50% so I'm not sure what it will be for us but I'm still grateful for whatever coverage we have. Surprised at how fast the results came back! I know how it can be hard to decide when to get the consult for yourself. It's like you don't want to jump the gun but you also don't want to waste time. You'll know when the time is right for you both

  17. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: how are you holding up? Are you still going in for a consult on Friday?

  18. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: I'm trying to keep it together the best that I can. Upon more research it looks like the really important number was the total motile sperm count which was at 80 million, which is like 4 times above the cut off of what is considered fertile. However, now I'm obsessing over his morphology, which was only 6%. The cut off for the morphology on the SA was anything >= 4%, so he is above the cut off. I was under the assumption that this was the kruger strict criteria but I don't think it is(so confusing because both WHO and kruger use a 4% cut off even though the kruger is more strict than WHO in what they define as a normal shaped sperm). I think the kruger strict criteria is the lab result we are still waiting for and we won't get that back until this Friday...I'm really terrified that the kruger morphology is going to be under 4% ( I don't see how it could be the same or higher than the WHO 6% if it is a more strict criteria), and if it is...it means - well I don't really know what it means, but I don't think it is good for us...I rescheduled my consult for Jan 30th so that both me and my husband could go together. I'm hoping the doctor will be able to go over all the details of the SA with us, and I have a feeling he will probably order a second one for DH to do.

    Did you get your DH's SA in? How did that go? Did you get the results back yet? I feel like our Kaiser was really fast because they made us drop it off at the hospital where they do the majority of their lab processing. I think it is all computerized except for the kruger strict criteria which is why it takes a week to get back.

  19. Mrs. K

    apricot / 308 posts

    @Tionn3: I'm sorry you have to go through this stress. It sounds like all you can do at this point is wait and see what the results from the Kruger criteria come out to be on Friday and hopefully the doctor can go over everything with you guys and answer any questions. I'm glad you have a consult scheduled so they can go over everything with you guys.

    DH was going to turn in his sample today but the lab is closed so he will probably turn it in later this week. I want to get the results before I have my consult which will be early next month. I'm interested to see how his analysis will come back because he was taking propecia for many years before we ttc and stopped 5 or so months ago.... I guess we will see once we get the results..

  20. Tionn3

    kiwi / 680 posts

    @Mrs. K: I think your SA results were great!

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