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8 or 9 weeks we started bath, lotion, jammie, nursing routine. But she still didn't go to sleep till 9 or 10.

We started a pretty set schedule around 8 weeks. Bedtime gradually got earlier as she got older.

I think around 8 weeks it was starting to get more predictable-- like 9-10 or so, for bedtime. We didn't start any kind of predictable nap/awake times for a lot longer. I would try, but she just didn't get the memo that babies her age aren't supposed to be up for more than 90 minutes at a time. She was probably close to 4 months by the time naps got at all predictable-- now at 4.5 she goes 1-2 hours awake between naps, depending on time of day, if we are out running errands, and how long she napped before.

She was also super fussy at night for weeks and weeks, witching hour combined with upset stomach/gas/reflux. We did a LOT of cluster feeding and bouncing on the exercise ball. We watched the entire series of Breaking Bad (not season. series) while nursing her pretty much.

Bedtime started about halfway through my maternity leave at 6 weeks, around the time I put my foot down about getting him into the crib. He still wasn't awake that much during the day, but I was bent on getting him used to being in his room at night. DH fought me a little because I think he was so worried it wouldn't work, but we were pleasantly surprised that everyone slept a lot better with that arrangement. At around 10 weeks he clearly knew the difference between night and day and was awake most of the day and slept longer stretches at night. I really think getting him into the crib early helped us get to that point smoothly!

@Rainbow Sprinkles: I'm so sorry-- that sounds really familiar. It kind of ebbed and flowed-- just when I thought it was as bad as could be, she'd get better, then when I thought we had it under control she'd get worse. It peaked around 2.5-3.5 months though-- I think it was colic, but putting a name on it doesn't help when there is no solution. Could she have bad reflux, since it's happening right after she eats?

We tried gas drops for a while which seemed to help a little bit. She slept in the rock and play, which kept her a little bit on an angle. We bounced on the damn exercise ball until we both wanted to rip it to shreds, even though it was a life saver. Gripe water on the worst nights. Pumping her legs frequently, not just when she seemed gassy. Tummy massage. Holding her upright for 10 minutes after she ate was a big one-- helped keep the acid in her tummy down I guess. Laying her down on her tummy and thumping her back-- weird, but it seemed to help even though she hated being on her tummy-- we would lay her across our legs or flat on the floor on a blanket.

Honestly I have no idea which of these things helped or not-- we tried EVERYTHING. I think mostly she just grew out of it. Now I almost feel the way I did about labor, I remember it was really bad, but now that I'm past it, I have had a hard time remembering how bad it was. She's so cute and happy now, I never thought it would happen. I guess I thought she would be a total grump until she went to college??