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wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@Lindsay05: Not necessarily. I have a car loan at 0% and a fixed rate mortgage loan.
pomegranate / 3759 posts
@looch: thats awesome! What about 3 credit cards with insane rates?
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
As I said in another post, really wealthy people are not like you and me in terms of what we pay for a rate on credit cards. For a normal, regular person, they can do a balance transfer for a set period, like 6 months, to another lender.
I am not advocating people rack up debt, don't get me wrong, but it's not so black and white when rates do and will go up.
papaya / 10343 posts
I voted for family 1. They have 2 higher incomes which means they have more options. They can always sell their home or summer home for more cash on hand. It does sort of depend how MUCH they have on their credit cards (I might feel differently if they had like 150k in credit card debt vs. 10k). But in general I feel like more earning potential = better off, even if they aren't necessarily making the most of their situation.
But I might be biased because I personally place a premium on quality of life (and call me materialistic, but my 4 bedroom house, nice car, the fact that I can buy what I want within reason, and the fact that we go out to do stuff and go to eat pretty frequently make me happy because it is the life I want. I'd be unhappy if I had a bunch more in savings but felt like I was having no fun and living in a place I hated).
bananas / 9227 posts
Definitely family 2. But most people would assume they're dirt poor without knowing their financial situation - which is excellent.
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
I'd vote for family two due to savings, however number one has more to liquidate if they have a financial emergency (and can adjust habits if needed to save money)
papaya / 10570 posts
It's hard to say because there are lots of details missing - like how much family 1 owes on their credit cards.... but from the info we have I'm going to go for family 1 because they have assets in the house and the summer cabin. I commend Family 2 heartily for saving but two years worth of expenses is unlikely to be more than the equity family 1 has in both of their homes, even after their consumer debt. In fifteen years time, when Family 1 has paid off their mortgage they will own their home. Family 2 will have thrown huge amounts of dead money into renting their home during that time - what a waste.
That said, family 2 are rich in something I covet so much - time. If they survive on one income that one of them is able to stay home with the kids. How wonderful! We need both of our incomes to pay our mortgage - it's a trade off, I guess.
pomegranate / 3759 posts
@looch: yep agreed. Its hard to say just from the scenarios given thats for sure.
persimmon / 1081 posts
If I were in family 2's situation I'd be terrified. Wages have been stagnant for decades while rents keep going up. I think at some point down the line their situation would become unsustainable.
One fire and poof - there goes their food. And I don't even want to think about what their lives would be like in old age.
At least family 1 has the option to pare down...
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
I was on board with #2 until i saw the "1 income near poverty line". Eesh.
I think both situations kind of suck, lol.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
I didn't even see the food in home food storage. That sounds, um, appetizing.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
I don't know if could answer this question. Well off? Family 2 is doing very well with savings and living within their means but Family 1 has a home. Also, we don't know how much debt they have. Do they have $10k over 3 cards? $50K? or 5K?
Family 2 is definitely more responsible (?) with how they save and spend their money.
I think both families have different priorities. I would personally rather own a home than rent a home.
Also, income wise, how much does Family 1 make in a year?
Lots of factors here.
grapefruit / 4770 posts
I can't vote. Both have serious issues for me and DH comfort level. Income near the poverty level is not something we are comfortable with, even with the 2 years savings.
pineapple / 12234 posts
I don't think either are well off but family #1 has assets and materials they could sell.
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