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  1. Anagram

    eggplant / 11716 posts

    @hilsy85: I am the person in my house who has high sleep needs, and issues with insomnia and a host of other sleep issues. However. I am a mom. And while yes, when my insomnia gets very very bad, my husband might take over a give me 1 (only 1) entire night to catch up, or sleep in....and the rest of the time, I function on very little sleep.

    I had a similar problem when LO2 was first born. My husband and I agreed that since I am BFing, and therefore doing the wakeups for LO2, that DH would wake up with LO 1 and entertain her until he goes to work each morning at 8am. Except my husband DOES also dress LO1 and make her breakfast. But he also started turning on the tv for her every morning so he could shower and get himself ready for work. And we butted heads on that beause when LO1 has TV first thing, she starts tantrumming for screen time the rest of the day and it was causing a big problem for me when he would leave every morning and I was left with a tantrumming toddler who wanted to watch tv for the rest of the day.

    We had a big heart to heart about our shared parenting goals and distributing parenting equally. And basically, DH thought that our toddler wouldn't allow him to get ready for work if he didn't use the TV--and I asked him to give it a trial week. I pointed out that I get ready every single day, with TWO girls at home, and I don't turn on the tv.

    So he agreed to try for a week---and he did it! Successfully....he just learned other methods for entertaining her. Now, he wakes up and puts her on the potty, then brings her to the living room and dumps out some blocks and then he goes and showers and she's totally fine.

  2. Autumnmama79

    pear / 1703 posts

    This would probably make me mad too. It's so hard when people don't do things the way you want them too - especially DH.

  3. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Raindrop: oh I know I'm not offended at all

    @Anagram: so my DH is very similar--on the weekends he asks me to take over parenting the LOs so he can have his breakfast. Ummm somehow I manage to eat my breakfast while also caring for LOs the rest of the week!! maybe we should have a talk about how we want to try to encourage LO1 to play independetly and he can practice that in the mornings.

  4. Raindrop

    grapefruit / 4731 posts

    @hilsy85:

  5. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    It would annoy me because that's often the only time he sees my son during the day. He gets up with him from about 6:30-7:30 as well and sometimes sees him a half hour after work, but not always. He was on the phone a lot during that hour in he morning and I did say something. Nicely and gently I said something along the lines of "you don't spend a lot of time with him and you're using it to be on your phone, when you're on your phone or computer all day. You should play with him more." My husband doesn't like criticism but took it surprisingly well and now spends a lot more time interacting.
    I would use that argument, not that it's lazy or that you can't use TV as much. He may be more defensive.
    If he still just puts on the TV and sleeps, then I might be more direct.

  6. Golden

    cherry / 175 posts

    I dunno. I think it's really nice of your husband to get up with him so you don't have to and what matters more? The extra hour of TV with daddy or your extra hour of sleep?

  7. Kemma

    grapefruit / 4291 posts

    @Anagram: I agree with your strategy, if your LO knows that TV isn't an option he will find something else to entertain himself with!

    @hilsy85: Could your DH maybe try an audio book or music for your wee guy? or maybe setting out a quiet activity the night before so your LO has a surprise every morning?

  8. Mrs.KMM

    grapefruit / 4355 posts

    Personally, I wouldn't be bothered by this. I'm the one in our relationship with high sleep needs and I would just be grateful for the extra hour of rest. That said, I also don't think screen time is the worst thing in the world. Obviously you shouldn't just let your kids watch from sun up to sun down but if a little TV makes everyone's morning better, that sounds like a win to me.

  9. Mamasig

    pomegranate / 3565 posts

    @Mrs. Sketchbook: I don't think you should "let it go" by doing the work and getting resentful about it. That's not what I meant. I guess it's more letting go of the idea DH will do thing just like me. We are different people and he'll parent differently than I do. Doesn't always mean it's wrong. I would spend more effort getting mad about it. On the big issues we are on the same page, which matters most to me.

  10. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Golden: see that idea that it's "nice" of him just bothers me. I view it as one of his parenting responsibilities. It's not "nice" that he goes to work--it's his job. It's not nice that I make dinner every night, that's part of my responsibility. It just rubs me the wrong way to view it as him doing me a favor--makes me feel like I should feel beholden to him for helping to parent equally, you know?

  11. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Kemma: that's a good idea! Maybe I can biuld a cool magnatile creation for him or something that can surprise him.

    @Mrs.KMM: no of course not the worst thing in the world. I just don't like it as the default.

  12. Mrs. Sketchbook

    GOLD / nectarine / 2884 posts

    @Mamasig: I agree with you here for sure. It is complicated...my feeling is, it takes a lot of personal work to figure out what is really a bottom line/dealbreaker and to enforce it, and then to let the other things go. We owe it to ourselves and our partners to do this in order to maintain calm in the relationship. But I also think that moms are overly encouraged in society to let their issues go, and in turn pick up the slack, while men are more encouraged (at least in the home) to set the terms of their involvement in the family. I think this is a recipe for resentment. I personally don't think it is healthy to repress resentment, but instead to remove its source. I personally don't believe it is possible to stuff resentment down...it just pops back up when you don't expect it! If the OP feels she needs to get up with LO so that he won't have screen time, then she needs to resolve this in a way that does not create new resentment or force her to stuff resentment. That may mean that her day looks differently from how her husband would prefer. Which is ok because currently his day looks different than what she would prefer! So it goes both ways, which I think is what you are saying. She just has to decide how much this matters to her, and match her behavior to her feelings on the issue.

    My husband is a distancer and he finds it easy to avoid conflict, but I am conflict prone so it is important for everyone in my household if I am upfront in dealing with issues before I get too overemotional

    I think I'm overdoing it in this thread, but I'm just personally fascinated by the issue of marital balance! I guess because my husband and I have done a ton of work in the past year in this area of life.

  13. sarac

    pomelo / 5093 posts

    No, but my husband and I specifically make this choice. We both absolutely hate having to wake up quickly and start being really interactive immediately afterwards, so pretty early on we instituted an hour of tv in the morning. She sometimes get a little more in the evenings, but that morning hour is the one that really works for our family. I feel absolutely rotten if I don't get a little time to wake up slowly, and this is perfect. My husband does what yours does and just naps on the couch with her. It's quite nice.

  14. Tanjowen

    nectarine / 2521 posts

    @hilsy85: I may have missed it in this thread, but does your DH help with breakfast and getting ready for the day when you get up, or does he head off to work? Because that's the part that would make me mad is if my DH just slept and did zero to help get the day going, even if it meant taking 15 minutes to get food in front of LO and get clothes out. I don't care what goes on the other 45 minutes if I get to stay in bed!

  15. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    I don't think an extra hour of screen time is going to make or break anything. Your DHs sleep is probably more necessary for his well being than the hour of TV will be a detriment to your kids well-being.

  16. raintreebee

    pear / 1531 posts

    Maybe it's because I have been watching LO all day in spite of my husband agreeing to split duties since we have no childcare (and I have a stomach bug on top of bronchitis and am 9 months pregnant) but this would bother me too! I do however have sympathy regarding his sleep issues since I've had them too. I would suggest that you encourage him to think about tackling those. CBT is great for insomnia, and it could help him get a better schedule. Until the sleep issues are fixed, I don't think things will change that easily. Sorry you are going through this!

  17. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    More so than anything else dh knows and agrees with how I feel about tv first thing in the am so this would def not be ok w me.

    He also realizes he has every luxury w getting ready for work wo rushing because I wah and/or my mom helps me with most mornings preschool drop off. He would def have to (and obliges) entertaining/playing w ds for an hour in the morning. We are night owls, but thankfully the kids sttn and we get 5-7 hours at night. So my dh has no excuse.

  18. Purpledaisy

    nectarine / 2974 posts

    I wouldn't be annoyed but I totally see your side. I think the difference with me is that I am not strict on screen time.

    I am not a morning person AT ALL. I frequently let dd play on the tablet for awhile in the morning and snooze a little extra. It seriously gets me through the day to not have to jump into action first thing in the morning.

    Could he maybe do screen time everyother morning as a compromise?

  19. sarac

    pomelo / 5093 posts

    A lot of interesting assumptions in this thread about sleep needs, spending time, whether or not it is 'nice' of this husband to get up early or if it's just his job as a father.

    I too have a husband who has a very nocturnal sleeping schedule - he would not voluntarily go to bed before 1 am, and getting up before 9 is really hard for him. And then it takes him quite a while to feel awake, especially if he's been awake with the baby during the night. Being awake and on and ready to entertain a child at 6:30 would not 'become second nature' to him if he just tried harder, it would continue to be something that made him miserable and resentful. It's very easy to write off people with different sleep needs as lazy people who should just try harder, but that's actually blatantly false.

    Another big issue here is the lack of agreement on screen time. Is it an hour a day or is it more? If I only allowed my daughter an hour in the day, I'd want to save it for the hard parts when I was home all day with her too.

  20. cam

    cherry / 157 posts

    This would bother me a lot. Not so much the screen time aspect, although if you jointly agreed on an hour per day then that part would bug me too. But more that he doesn't do breakfast or get him dressed. 6:30 isn't a crazy early time to have to get up, so I guess I would want to try to see if there's anything he could do to unwind/sleep earlier. Maybe this is something he's already looked into without much luck but I think even aside from this specific situation, healthy sleep patterns are good for everyone.

  21. NovBaby1112

    grapefruit / 4066 posts

    That's tough...on one hand I am jealous bc my DH doesn't offer to get up early so I can sleep in, but on the other hand I know that my control freak self would be pissed if DH did get up and turn the TV on instead of just playing with LO. My DH is also anight owl though and I am a morning person, so I generally do not mind getting up with DD but it sure would be nice if he offered!! There are just certain things that I have a hard time relinquishing control of, and TV in the mornings is one of them. I would just be honest with him and ask him nicely if he could just try not to use the TV and maybe just lay on the couch and have also read him books while he rests?

  22. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Tanjowen: no he doesn't--to be fair I've never asked him to, so that is definitely something I could bring up. That would make my live raiser. But I'm guessing that would kind of defeat the purpose for him of being able to go into the living room and fall back asleep on the couch. But maybe not
    @catomd00: oh I do t think it's bad for Lo long term--but it's more than id like, and I guess I don't see it as necessary--we usually save tv for when Lo is really tired or cranky or we need to get stuff done. But you are right, it's not a huge deal--which is why I even asked if I am totally off base in being annoyed at all lol.

    @raintreebee: oh he has had oodles of help for his sleep issues...I think they are much better now but still a sensitive subject. I hope you feel better.
    @mrsjyw: lol yes if our kids were unicorn kids like yours things would be easier

    @Purpledaisy: yeah I thinkni prob am over reacting a bit...occasional tv right away is ok it's just when it's every day it gets me. So every other day or on days when he's truly exhausted is be ok with.

    @sarac: he definitely has different sleep needs/schedule and that's hard for me to understand bc I am vey different. I try to sympathize but barring a medical reason (which he does have to some extent) I do think that it's important to get on a schedule that fits your family's needs. Our ds is an early riser and always has been--it's not realistic or fair to just continue having a night owl schedule when that then cuts into family time and makes things more difficult for me, IMO.

    @cam: I agree--he needs a new sleep schedule! Unfortunately I don't see that changing right away, and it's been long standing point of contention. It's tough to be a night owl in a family of early birds!

  23. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @NovBaby1112: ha I am also a control freak--is having control worth giving up an extra hour of sleep tho?? I don't know!

  24. Mrs. Tiger

    blogger / pomegranate / 3044 posts

    @hilsy85: have you considered asking him to stay up with the kids at night or take the first night waking or something so you can sleep and he is more in his nighttime element?

  25. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Mrs. Tiger: ds goes to bed at 7 (I don't think j could go to bed before yhat! ) and I ebf dd so I'd have to pump which is even more annoying for me...and her wake ups usually don't start tol 2. But if she starts having an 11/12/1 am wake up I think I would definitely ask dh to take over those!

  26. Mrs. Tiger

    blogger / pomegranate / 3044 posts

    @hilsy85: or have him do dishes or whatever nighttime chores? DH never ever offers to let me sleep in, so I finally just gave him some of my nighttime stuff so I could relax/sleep earlier.

  27. NovBaby1112

    grapefruit / 4066 posts

    @hilsy85: I guess the way I would try to look at it is- is it affecting DSs behavior? Or have you not noticed a change? If it is affecting his mood, he's tantruming more, etc than I would be more likely to say something, but if it isn't affecting his mood than I would think more sleep might be worth it, if that makes sense

  28. Rockies11

    persimmon / 1363 posts

    I agree with @sarac - having higher sleep needs/a night owl type schedule is a real thing. My husband absolutely cannot stay awake when he gets up early, whether it's him falling asleep with the kids with the TV or crashing as soon as I get up. A few days of him having relatively early mornings, and he has a terrible migraine and sleeps a whole day.

    I don't think co-parenting should require working against someone's sleep needs. It makes a lot more sense to me to shift responsibilities so he can do stuff at night or let it go that that's how he parents in the morning if he's working against his own clock to make sure you're getting extra shut-eye.

  29. Trailmix

    nectarine / 2152 posts

    It would totally bother me! But my husband doesn't have the sleep issues that yours does so for our family, it would just be a matter of DH being a lazy parent! We limit screen time significantly (I'd prefer them to have none at all but probably every other day they get 30 mins or so) and I have actually had this argument with my husband when he has done that exact thing, so he knows better now, haha.
    In your case, it sounds like there needs to be some shuffling of responsibilities. I totally agree that your DH is not 'doing you a favor' by getting up with your son but just doing his fair share of parenting! How old is your daughter? Maybe you could talk to him and put a finite time line on the tv in the morning, bc I know a new baby is hard on everyone so now might not be the best time to freak out about screen time but if you know there's an end to this in sight, it might make it more palatable.

  30. MrsLilybugg

    pear / 1650 posts

    It wouldn't bother me !!! I'm also not a "morning" person and can get him needing the extra sleep before work. You've gotten good advice tho!

  31. LovelyPlum

    eggplant / 11408 posts

    I thought about this some more, and here's my thought: if I were in his shoes, I think I would get mad that you "get" the screen time hour at your disposal, and I wouldn't. If I were in your shoes, I would be mad that he "wasted" the screen time hour without even getting LO dressed or feeding him breakfast. Are you totally opposed to more screen time? Could you compromise and ask if he could at least give LO breakfast and/or get him dressed during that time?

    I guess that in the grand scheme of things, if I needed to use the screen later, I would, even if he had it in the morning. But I don't think I'm as strict on this as many seem to be, even though we really don't use it that much.

  32. raintreebee

    pear / 1531 posts

    This probably wouldn't work, but would your son get up later if you moved his bedtime back? That worked for us since neither of us are morning people. LO sleeps until 8 now!

  33. Baby Boy Mom

    pomegranate / 3983 posts

    Yes this would bother me but I am in the camp that believes in limited screen time and I see adverse effects on LO's behavior pretty much immediately. Thankfully my DH agrees but that is after I suggested we research the matter and came to the conclusion together. I also like the suggestion of moving bedtime back, but when we did this it took several months for it to stick, so not an immediate solution.

  34. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Rockies11: definitely gives me something to think about, thanks

    @Trailmix: dd is 9 weeks so we are all still adjusting fur sure! I tip my hat to you// id love to limit tv to 30 min every other day!

    @raintreebee: well he dropped his nap so even 7 is pushing it some nights... I wish he'd sleep til 8! He's never done that in his life.

  35. Kemma

    grapefruit / 4291 posts

    @hilsy85: this is just my blunt opinion so feel free to disregard but anytime after 0600 is "morning" in our household and part of being a parent is sucking it up and dealing with it! To a certain extent, I think too much TV is lazy parenting, particularly if screen time is one of the things you care about, and yeah, I'd be annoyed if my husband did this every morning.

  36. Rainbow Sprinkles

    eggplant / 11287 posts

    My husband usually gets up with the kids too so I can sleep a bit in the a.m. and he puts the TV on for them as soon as they all get up. It does not bother me at all. It's their routine. They eat and watch cartoons while he drinks his coffee in peace. And we are all better off!

    I know I for one certainly don't feel like delving into a riveting game of go fish or hauling out a sensory bin when I've hardly wiped the sleep out of my eyes.

    I don't think the kids who get "30 minutes of screen time every other day" are more well set up for the future than the kids who get 1-2 hours a day. I don't obsess over it at all.

  37. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @hilsy85: I would talk about general screen time suggestions. Maybe not totally block tv but ask that it's limited to 30 minutes or at least an educational show.

  38. sera_87

    pomegranate / 3604 posts

    @hilsy85: yes it would kind of bother me but on the other hand ... Sleeeeeeeep.

  39. 2littlepumpkins

    grapefruit / 4455 posts

    So my dd tends to get out of bed the second her eyes open and she's usually not too happy first thing in the morning, so I usually stick the tv on, we're both happier for it. So for me it's a little hard to blame your husband. On the other hand I don't call this "extra" sleep, when you're getting up with the newborn I just call this "sleep." We take shifts too and nobody's sleep time is more important than the other (although my shift is longer but that's not important here.! So if it's his time he needs to prepare for it to maybe take some energy. I get that it might go against his natural tendencies but that is life and parenting while they are very little and especially with a newborn in the house. Regarding sleep needs and night owls... I don't mean for this to sound...braggy or preachy? but I have a husband who works a job where hours can change and he sometimes works 18 or so hours straight. He has to sleep during the day sometimes and the night sometimes and half/half sometimes. He's had to work overnight then attend an overtime thing during the day and go back to work overnight again. So in full honesty I have a hard time worrying about someone's one hour of sleep on the couch when they could choose to sleep earlier and try to get on a different schedule. The last thought I have is even if your husband is too tired to play with lo couldn't lo play independently near him?

  40. su9su9

    cherry / 204 posts

    I would be annoyed, but would probably just put up with it and just give less screen time during the hours you are in charge if you are really set on a X hours of screen time per day. My husband picks up our son (4 yo) from preschool at 3:45pm and gives him TV when they get home (he works from home so when he gets home, he goes back to work). He picks him up early to avoid traffic. The other option is for ME to pick up my son when I leave work at 4pm, but that will add 30 minutes to my day when I need to get home to cook dinner. So all that to say is that I don't say anything about the screen time because I need his help and he's making my life easier.

    Both my kids grew up with grandma-care, and they probably got more screen time than the norm here at HB. But what they watched were educational PBS shows. I guess what I am trying to say is that television isn't all bad. My kindergarten girl was assessed at school at the beginning of the year and the teacher told us that she's already at where they want kindergarteners to be at the end of the school year. I am not crediting all that to TV (we read a bunch at home), but I know it certainly helped, watching Super Why, Sesame Street, etc.

    To get back to your situation...can you at least ask your husband to get your LO dressed and fed without causing an argument?

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