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Naps have gone down hill guys! P will only nap in my arms or the carrier. And we are lucky to get 45 min from her! I know you can't nap train until 4 months. I sure hope this is a phase!

@buttermilk: we are between wonder weeks, at 13.5 weeks now, just turned 3 months on Sunday. Night sleep is still good. But naps are nightmarish. Must be in my arms, while I'm bouncing vigorously on the ball. I only got. 2 swing naps out of her last week. I keep trying to put her down in the swing, the PnP, etc, but she screams! Since she is too young to CIO, I have no choice. I try to transfer once she's out, but she wakes up the second my butt leaves the ball! Can't wait for this to pass!

Anyone else having new sleep issues?

@abmamma: @Mrs. Microscope: Ugh, sorry for the crappy naps!! C is (knock on wood) a pretty good napper, but his older brother took awful, short naps for a looong time (like 30-45 min for EVERY single nap). But as I type this, he's been sleeping for over 2.5 hours and he'll be 2 next week. There's hope that it won't last forever!

@lilteacherbee: what a cutie!

Currently, P is napping in the PnP, still strapped in her carseat... She fell asleep on the way home, and I didn't dare to wake her, so I just plopped the whole thing into the PnP, and turned on the monitor. It's been 15 min so far. Fingers crossed!

Also, I feel like this is a mom fail, but I am desperate. I wouldn't ever do this on purpose, but driving around the neighborhood doesn't appeal to me. So after-drive nap in the PnP it is.

P slept 2 hours and 10 min! Woo! But I don't want to repeat this carseat in the PnP thing again, I guess I will stick with a transfer from arms. Today I had errands, hence the carseat and drive.

@Torchwood: no, P is a heavy wetter at night. And she usually pees during naps. Pooping is usually an awake activity though!

@lilteacherbee: So cute!!

@Mrs. Microscope: doesn't sound like a mom fail to me....we have left N in the car seat when he's fallen asleep there (although rarely stays asleep for long if it is not moving). 2+ hour nap is great though- maybe it will help "reset" things. N also took a better nap in the afternoon. Woke up after the usual 30 mins but was able to pop the paci in and crank up the white noise and he went back to sleep. Ended up with close to 2 hours too!

@Torchwood: I've never had that with either kid but I think one of our friends' kids would have dry diapers at night as an infant...it didn't last though as I recall. But who knows! So glad you had a good appointment but sorry about the pink eye- that is no fun!

@OhCaptain: idk what it was related to but R was doing that all last week. She has been so grunty and restless in her sleep and kicking out of her miracle blanket every night. So 2 nights ago I decided to double swaddle her and she has slept like a ROCK since then. No peeps! And last night she didn't even wake up to feed! 9 hr sleep again!

What do you guys think about "sleep begets sleep"? I moved her bedtime up from 10pm to like 8:30 a couple weeks ago and so far all it's gotten me is an earlier MOTN feeding and earlier wake up time. Last night we actually kept her out til 9pm at a bday party, and she didn't go to sleep too 10 and slept great!

@buttermilk: in my experience "sleep begets sleep" has more to do with overall sleep, not just bedtime. Overtired babies/kids don't generally sleep as well (at least mine don't!). I think kids are a little different when it comes to what bedtimes work best, especially at this age!

@abmamma: @Mrs. Microscope: okay that makes sense. I have a very good sleeper! She sleeps about 9-10 hours at night and then a big 2 hour nap in the morning and three 45-60 min naps during the rest of the day.

@buttermilk: P also loves sucking her hands! She is now batting at the hanging toys on her playmat, and holding her hands together in front of her. She has small giggles as well which melt my and DH's hearts. She also finally noticed one of our cats last night.

@Mrs. Microscope: yay!! So cute R has started batting at toys too and ditto on the hand holding, I didn't realize until you said it!

@Mrs. J: oh no that's rough! Sounds like it could be reflux.

@buttermilk: I firmly believe sleep begets sleep, but it totally doesn't matter what time you put them down, so long as they are getting enough total hours.

@buttermilk: @MrsStar: I'm envious of your awesome sleepers. Although I can't complain that much- N sleeps WAY better than his big sister did at his age ! He likes an early bedtime though so we do a dream feed before we go to bed.

N is smiling, cooing, and giggling up a storm. I love it. He also bats at and grabs the toys hanging from his activity mat. And he LOVES seeing himself in the mirror! He has pretty good head control these days too. I do need to work on more tummy time beyond when he's on my chest though.

@buttermilk: LO1 went to bed at 9pm for a long time (until he was almost a year and then we went to 8pm). I worried for way too long about his "late" bedtime until I realized that it worked for him (he woke up around 8am with one wake up around 5am until he STTN at 11 months).

This time, as a second time mom, I'm just like, eh he's fine hahaha.

all the holiday gift threads have me thinking about what to get N since he will only be 4 months at Christmas and has a ton of hand-me-down toys and gear from DD. Family members are already starting to ask for gift ideas and I don't know what to suggest aside from clothes. Moms with older LOs- what are you planning to get for your August baby??

Liliana is giggling in her sleep! I want to know what she's dreaming!

@buttermilk: L currently goes to bed around 10 (which is now- I need to get to bed!) and has one wake up around 6, and we go back to bed for a bit. Winds up total being like 11-12 hours, but since I pump while we're up a while during that wake up, so an argument could be made that the stretch after that is really her first nap of the day. I'm a night owl and HATE getting up early, and this schedule gives DH more time with her, so we're going with it. I also have always had high sleep needs, and it looks like she's the same.

@abmamma: I've got things like cute clothes, books, and gear on her Amazon wish list. The clothes are ones that are less practical, so I'll be less likely to buy them myself. Things like a water wrap will be useful if we go swimming this summer, and even though it's sort of more for me, she's too young to need all her gifts to be things she'd like.

@MrsStar: I know- DH was like "we dont have to him much, he won't know the difference" but I reminded him that DD would definitely notice. I will have to think about what additional stuff we will need for him in the spring- we just have so much from DD that can be reused!!

@Torchwood: those are good ideas! I should think about less practical clothes for the grandparents to get. Also, I love when N smiles in his sleep- sooo cute. I don't think he's giggled yet- even cuter!

@lilteacherbee: let me know if you come up with any great ideas!

R slept 10.5 hrs again yippee! But I'll def have to pump MOTN. I have a low supply and cannot afford to lose that feeding! She woke up in such a good mood too

Yes yes love this Xmas talk! We have no toys and I barely know what is age appropriate but I've been trying to figure it out. I am planning on a zany zoo, some stacking toys, teething toys, a snowsuit & wintery clothes (unless we have to buy it sooner bc of the weather) and some more books.

I came across these Lost My Name books while pregnant and have been waiting to buy one for her, so that's at the top of the list! https://www.lostmy.name/en-US/books/lostmyname?gclid=CjwKEAiAvPGxBRCH3YCgpdbCtmYSJABqHRVwkSfBUqq_TBmgK_LIy4UaIxjIF2-3DkIjOfPnQcB1ARoCNbrw_wcB

Anyone doing tummy sleep yet? I don't know much about different sleeping positions, but we were just having tummy time on her activity mat and she started putting herself to sleep sucking on her fingers. Maybe I should experiment with this! She always naps in the swing currently.