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If you could redshirt, would you?

  1. skipra

    pomegranate / 3350 posts

    Cut off here is Sept 1 and DS1 has a Sept bday so he will already be one of the oldest. So definitely not for him. DS2 is a May baby so I think that should be fine too. I would really only consider it for a late summer birthday or if one of them needed extra time and it was suggested by their doctor or preschool teacher, etc.

  2. BoogieBea

    pomegranate / 3503 posts

    We could have redshirted him this year. We defaulted the decision to his teacher at the time. She told us he was ready. She had recommended a good friend of his from last year to repeat so she definitely is not opposed to the idea. So far I think he's been enjoying kindergarten and has been adjusting well. And he has matured quite a bit since last year so we hope we made the right decision.

  3. Mama Bird

    pomegranate / 3127 posts

    I'm considering it. I started school a year early and it was great and I still felt the benefits in college, when I decided to take a year off and still graduated with other kids my age. But... DS is almost two and barely talking. I'm not sure when he'll catch up, so maybe an extra year is what he needs.

  4. Mrs. High Heels

    blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts

    I think it's a case by case basis depending on each child, but I would rather have my children be the youngest and challenged than the other way around. If they were within the range of normal (physically, mentally, emotionally) for their age... I wouldn't.

  5. Mrs. Sketchbook

    GOLD / nectarine / 2884 posts

    My brother (born in June) was held back in the second grade and he barely understood it at the time, but it played havoc on him in middle school and high school when he started developing (lower voice, taller, facial hair) earlier than other kids, etc. I do believe it had a real effect on his self esteem. I don't know how far behind he was when he was held back (I was 17 as had my own issues), so I don't question my parents' choice, but seeing his experience does make me wonder how I would approach this issue myself. I'm not sure it is something I would do voluntarily.

  6. mrswin

    nectarine / 2433 posts

    @oliviaoblivia: Check with the schools you would be considering because I know my mom was able to do this with my younger sister and a cousin of mine did it with her daughter as well. Their birthdays were so close to the cut off but they were allowed to start "early".

  7. LuLu Mom

    GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts

    when LO was born our states cut off was Oct 15th her birthday is the 1st, and we were very much considering redshirting her so she wasn't the youngest. But they recently switched the cutoff to July 15th, so it's a non-issue, she will be held back now based on the new cutoff dates.

  8. autumnlove

    hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts

    Only if it was recommended by her Dr or other experts.

  9. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @Mrs. Bee: Yep-although the cut-off is earlier in my state (Sept/Oct rather than 12/31). I did my Master's Thesis research on age of entry at kindergarten, and was fortunate to interview a lot of experts in the field. The consensus seems to be that they should be 5 by the time they have their first day of kinder. For boys (who tend to be more immature than girls socially/emotionally), I'd definitely not start them until 5-about to turn 6. My boy will be born in November, and he will be one of the oldest upon entering kindergarten. I just had my birthday this week and I was one of the youngest in my grade. My mom and I definitely think I would have done so much better socially/emotionally had I had an extra year at home. It definitely depends on the kid, though!

  10. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    I was just talking to a parent today about this. Apparently it's a big thing in the school district that we just moved to. It sounds like here no one wants their child to be the youngest so it's just this peer pressure that keeps older and older kids held back just so they're not the youngest. I understand it, everyone wants their kid to be a leader and not lost to those kids that have had an extra year. But from the kids on the preschool playground I saw there's no reason other than no one wants their kid to be on the younger end - and for our kids that's not a good enough reason. If they were struggling than of course we'd consider it. My husband moved back to the states in elementary school and they put him with his age group rather than in next grade up, which he'd been in before the move. He just turned into a trouble maker because he was so bored. I guess I'm also happy it wasn't popular when I was younger. I didn't speak until I was 2 and I feel like here that would mean most parents would have already decided just to start them late to preschool since they were behind.

  11. sarac

    pomelo / 5093 posts

    My daughter is 12 days past the cutoff, but I won't let her be held back a year just because of it. Red shirting would be a terrible choice for her. I totally support it when developmentally appropriate, though.

  12. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: So boys that can read at 4/young 5 should still wait to start kindergarten? I kinda feel like maybe the classroom should change if it's a matter of boys being too immature for school, boys aren't behind intellectually. I just remember being super bored in kindergarten with the reading materials, I can't imagine if my parents had waited an extra year.

  13. loveisstrange

    pineapple / 12526 posts

    No. C is so much physically bigger than many kids her age that Id never want her to be held back.

  14. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @Maysprout: I didn't say anything about reading/academic ability. I found as a kindergarten teacher and as a research student that the bigger concerns were social/emotional maturity. As an aside, i had a female student with an August 31st birthday who was incredibly socially immature, and also had potty accidents multiple times a week-her parents said they wish they'd held her. Like i said, it totally depends on the kid! I agree that a lot needs to change in the public school system . However, any good teacher should be differentiating for academic needs, and that would help with the boredom.

  15. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: I guess I'm a little confused. Are you saying you found social/ emotional maturity is a bigger concern than reading/ academic ability because they're more likely to be held back or what factors make it the bigger concern? I guess id just question if I heard someone say girls should start school later and think it seemed a bit sexist since I don't think either sex has an inherent intellectual advantage over the other.

  16. Dandelion

    watermelon / 14206 posts

    Depends on the kid. With D (with a bday in August), I won't. He's the youngest in his class, but when they did MAPS testing this month, he was way ahead of where he is supposed to be. He's always been smart. If he was struggling, redshirting would have been considered.

    M is a March baby, so it's moot.

  17. Mrs. Juice

    blogger / apricot / 367 posts

    This is alway such an emotional topic! I know every parent wants the best for their child... I'm still not completely over the fact that our school did not let us hold HJ back, so I am definitely on the side of letting the parents choose...

  18. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @Maysprout: Mrs. Bee asked if any of us would "red shirt," or hold a student back. My reply was that from what I've heard from experts in the field is that a student should be 5 by the time s/he enters kinder. I then mentioned that I personally found for many boys as well as some girls that social/emotional maturity tends to be more of an issue than academic maturity/readiness (which should be differentiated for by a good teacher regardless of age) in a younger student than an older student. You're welcome to wall me if you want to continue the convo , as I feel like you are somehow offended when I was merely joining in the conversation as someone who's had some experience with this.

  19. lovehoneybee

    GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts

    I don't know. E has an early August birthday, and I think the cutoff is Sept 1st here. We're just going to wait and see what he's like closer to that time.

    D and a BIL are both also August babies. BIL was not held back a year, D was. My ILs felt that D just wasn't quite emotionally ready for kindergarten., whereas BIL was. She said she never regretted the decision.

  20. Mrs. Jacks

    blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts

    While kids who red shirt do better in the short run by outperforming their peers, in the long run there is no good evidence to say that it confers advantage. Therefore, I would err on the side of not red shirting unless there was a strong cognitive or social reason to do so.

  21. Mrs.KMM

    grapefruit / 4355 posts

    I wouldn't. I have an April 27th birthday and DH has a May 12th birthday (and we both grew up with a June 1 school cutoff) so we were both always one of the youngest in our classes. Despite this, we both excelled academically (to the point of being bored during various times in our education). I don't think being among the youngest is really a hindrance at all.

  22. sunny

    coconut / 8430 posts

    LO has an end of August birthday and the cutoff is Aug 31. I would not hold her back unless she was below what is considered "normal" developmentally for kids of her age. Where I come from (tiger parents abound), everyone is trying to get their kids up to the next higher grade.

  23. immabeetoo

    honeydew / 7687 posts

    I am concerned the opposite way- LO shares a late bday with me. I started early, graduated early, and didn't turn 18 until halfway through freshman year of college. I would've been bored out of my mind another year behind and already was awkwardly attempted to move up for reading (major failure).

    I would never consider it unless there were glaring motivators, but as it is I'm worried about him being bored out of his mind if we follow the public schedule

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