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  1. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: @LibbyLou: @SweetiePie: @NorthStar:
    Thanks everyone! I won't be getting another update until Monday. Since we're doing PGS, the lab standard protocol is not to disturb them on day 3 just to check and to leave them be.

  2. Amorini

    persimmon / 1132 posts

    @PurplePumps: delurking to say congrats on 9 and best wishes for more good news to come!

  3. Amorini

    persimmon / 1132 posts

    @Honeydew: I saw your introduction and I'm sorry it's taken so long to have your LO#2. At 39/40, I was definitely the oldest of the bunch when I was IVF cycling about 14-15 months ago and so I just wanted to acknowledge the extra dose of bravery it takes to go there when the stats are sucky. My situation was different and I wasn't diagnosed with DOR, but there were 1-2 girls using HGH. If you search somewhere in IVF Thread #3, you will find something. Sorry I can't be more help. My story ended well and we have a healthy 3.5 month boy out of our whole ordeal. I still lie awake at night at times and remember this group and want to check in. After all of the hardship, I thought I would be fine with just one LO, but now that it's time to give away/sell the newborn stuff, I just wonder about what it would take for a #2...at 41/42.

    Sprinkling the baby dust in here for all!

  4. fingerscrossed

    apple seed / 2 posts

    Hi everyone! I'm new here and have been reading about everyone's journeys. Everyone here has been through so much. Reading makes me feel a little less lonely.

    This is our first IVF cycle, been TTC for a little over 2 years now. I was diagnosed with endometriosis; we went straight to IVF after finding out.

    I just had my egg retrieval a couple of weeks ago--they retrieved 11 eggs. 11 were mature and fertilized, and 7 made it to freeze on day 6. I have an appointment with my doctor to discuss next steps and was wondering if anyone here went on lupron depot or got a laparoscopy before a FET? We're still trying to decide what to do.

    Glad that this community exists; sending you all baby dust!

  5. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @fingerscrossed: Hello and welcome! Great numbers for your first cycle! I have not been diagnosed with endometriosis (no symptoms, but I'm unexplained and was grasping at anything that might help figure out what was wrong), but when the topic of a lap came up, my RE did not think it was necessary. His train of thought is that if they did see anything (which he thought was unlikely since I have no indication of having it), they could try to clear out what they saw which may or may not help cause even clearing it doesn't help on a cellular level. And if they didn't see anything there could still be something on the cellular level that was not right. So his recommendation was to avoid the lap surgery and do the Yale EFT. There's also ERA and e-tegrity test... and I'm still trying to figure out the difference between them all.
    Anyways, I would ask them what difference the treatment path would be based on the outcome of the lap and if a lap will help. If it doesn't change the path forward, I'd just do the Lupron Depot if that is the treatment plan either way and avoid the surgery.

  6. yellowbeach

    nectarine / 2648 posts

    @fingerscrossed: Welcome to the not-so-desirable club! Glad you seem to have some answers though as to the cause of your IF. Many of us on here remain unexplained IF. There's a wide breadth of experiences on this board, so you are in good company

  7. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    And then there was 1. 1 single lonely little blasts today.

    I dunno what to fucking do anymore

  8. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @PurplePumps: crud. I'm so sorry. It's so hard when you get your hopes up only to be disappointed.

  9. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @purplepumps #(&*$Q) girl. hugs to you. Not sure what else to say but I think all of us can sympathize with the disappointment and WTF feeling of IVF. That one is a champ survivor though and it only takes one! Focus your energy on that....and some wine. We're rooting for you.

  10. fingerscrossed

    apple seed / 2 posts

    @purplepumps: Thank you for the warm welcome and advice. My RE and DH also don't want me to get the surgery, and DH doesn't even want me to do the Lupron, but it's what the RE recommends. I'm looking forward to my appointment with the RE just to talk things through and figure out next steps.
    I'm sorry about your results today. I'm sending you hugs and hope that one blast ends up a beautiful baby. I've been reading your blog and hope for the best for you!!!

    @yellowbeach: Thank you for the welcome! This is true, I am lucky in that my RE was able to diagnose me and come up with a protocol based on my endo. I have a large endometrioma on my left ovary that the nurse calls "my old friend". I want to break up with that friend and get preggers already!

  11. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    Question.

    I have the oncoming signs of an UTI (fun...). I'm going to start Cycle #3 on Sunday. Is there an antibiotic that won't interfere with egg quality?

  12. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @Purplepumps: what did you end up deciding for your blast?

  13. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @Honeydew: yikes. sorry, I have no idea. Hope you get some info on that soon.

    @Mrs. Pajamas: We're still waiting on the PGS results. Probably another week or so until that comes in. I actually had a consult with another RE/surgical OB... and he suggested *ovarian drilling*. I'm like wtf is that!!!! its exactly what it sounds like... they go in there during a lap, and punch holes in the ovary. His theory is that it should reduce the androgens which are typically high for those with pcos, since too much androgens can be bad for egg quality. My RE is not convinced, but on board if I want to try and suggest doing it for just one ovary. And I have no idea what I want to do !

  14. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @purplepumps woah the drilling thing sounds kind of crazy but if it might work why not? Ugh it's so so hard. Will be thinking good thoughts for your pgs results!

  15. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @PurplePumps: I missed your update last week. I'm sorry. I mean, f**k - how much can one person take?
    The drilling sounds intense. When you say your doc isn't convinced, is it that he's not sure it will be successful? Or is it that he thinks it could actually be hurtful?

  16. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @SweetiePie: I think a little of both. He doesnt think it will help, and he is worried that it could end up damaging egg supply which is why he suggested just the one. If it works, then we should get some good eggs from that ovary... if it causes harm, at least we still have the other untouched ovary. I'm tentatively scheduled for 3/23 right now for the surgery. Making a looooong list of question for the preop appointment....

  17. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    The lone embryo that could came back PGS normal!
    Now what to do next...... I have 2 pgs normal frozen.
    - do the lap, check for endo (long shot)
    - do the lap, check for endo and do the drilling (oye)
    - forget the lap, do a month of suppression for maybe endo and do one more retreival
    - just move forward with the EFT and using the embies I have(not really what I want to do right now)

  18. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @PurplePumps: I literally have no idea what I would do in your position.
    BUT CONGRATS ON YOUR PGS NORMAL!!!! That's a silver lining if I've ever heard one!

  19. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @purple pumps I totally agree with Sweetie Pie: not an easy choice at all. I would still explore pros/cons of the lap and other procedures because you have 2 golden embryos so you want to make sure your body is totally ready to house them, ya know? You worked SO hard to get those two embies! I don't see the need for another retrieval but maybe I'm missing why you'd want to do that?

  20. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: Just planning ahead. Assuming 50% chance of success, 2 embryos may get me 1 child? I'm doubtful that in a year or 2 if/when we go for another, my then 40ish year old eggs will fair any better so why not bank them now. Plus it just gives me more peace of mind if we get a bfn from a transfer.

  21. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @PurplePumps: You are seriously so level headed about this. You continue to impress me!
    When the time comes, will you transfer two at one time or one at a time?

  22. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @PurplePumps: I am so happy to hear the embryo was a PGS normal!!! Sounds like you have a lot to consider--sending good thoughts your way while you work through the process to decide on next steps!

  23. yellowbeach

    nectarine / 2648 posts

    Hey ladies just checking in to ask a question to the group. I had my first IVF baby on Feb 12 at 32w3d after we were emergently induced for HELLP Syndrome.

    Does anyone have experience with repeat pregnancy, particularly IVF after something like HELLP or preeclampsia?

    I'm much better now and likely returning to work on Saturday, but little Evie will be in the NICU for a while. I'm just wondering what this may mean (if anything) down the road for future IVF rounds.

  24. LBee

    pomegranate / 3895 posts

    @yellowbeach: Lurking, but my sister did fertility treatments (IUI) and had HELLP / pre-eclampsia. She just had her second child and made it to 38 weeks (had my nephew at 32 weeks). Feel free to wall me with any questions.

  25. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @yellowbeach: hi! Hope you're feeling well. That's amazing that you're going back to work already! Is it easier to go and keep yourself busy? Sorry if it's too much to ask.
    How is Evie?

    As for the HELLP question, my friend had it. She was emergency c section at 34 weeks and holy crap it's such a serious condition. Her son spent about 2 weeks in the nicu then he got to go home. He's a sturdy 3 year old now

    She had her 2nd baby 10 months ago and no recurrence of HELLP. They monitored her extra closely but she was fine and went to term
    She did not do IVF, but hopefully the fact that her 2nd pregnancy was uneventful is of comfort to you.

  26. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @PurplePumps: Have you made any decisions on what to do next? Thinking of you!

  27. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @yellowbeach huge congrats on your dd ! Sorry you had to go through an unexpected experience to deliver her but so exciting she is here! I remember when you got your bfp. Wow time has flown!

  28. yellowbeach

    nectarine / 2648 posts

    @Mrs. Pajamas: I know - I remember when I first joined this board on the recommendation of a good friend. I'm lucky to have found it. You ladies helped me survive the emotional rollercoaster of IVF, and now my birth month group is helping me wade through this unexpected delivery.

  29. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @yellowbeach: Congratulations!! much love to you and little Evie!!

  30. Honeydew

    kiwi / 568 posts

    Had my second ER on Saturday. Crossing my fingers.
    1st ER: Femara primed, 150 menopur 300 folistim, Cetrotide:
    8 retrieved
    5 mature
    3 fertilized
    0 made it past day 5

    2nd with HGH, MD lupron, 150 Menopur, 450 Follistim
    8 retrieved
    7 mature
    5 fertilized
    Waiting on report on Friday.

    I'm crawling out of my skin with anxiousness. Please sprinkle baby dust .

  31. Mrs. Pajamas

    kiwi / 702 posts

    @honeydew ack the wait is so so hard! All the ladies on this board can sympathize for sure. Wishing you the best! Keep us updated...and definitely try to distract yourself with some fun projects or treats like a pedicure, exercise/dinner and drinks with friends, baking project or whatever sounds like fun and will get your mind off the waiting. Good luck!

  32. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @Honeydew: sending good distracting thoughts your way while you wait!!

  33. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @Honeydew: Good luck! Very curious how the HGH works out for you!

  34. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    beta #2 is tomorrow and given all my previous losses, all i can feel is panic for whichever way it goes! Anyone else in this phase of the process?

  35. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @endymion4: I'm not in any kind of wait but have been before so I can empathize with you. Hang in there and we'll all be here no matter the outcome.

  36. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: thank you! i'm just so over getting my hopes up and seeing dh get his hopes up and have them come crashing down each time!

  37. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    Hi ladies. So, I've been trying to just stay mum about everything because I felt kind of embarrassed to say we're doing another round after saying multiple times that I'm done. Lo and behold, here I am - meds ordered and waiting for a new round.
    Basically since my odds are 1/8 for a good embryo and we've only tested 6, DH really feels like we should do one more to try and test a full 8 (so at least 2 more embryos). And I do think that is logical and I couldn't feel completely OK wth being done. So here we are.

    I've been trying to start a new cycle since January though. Keep hitting road bumps. Had a really wonky cycle where I bled 3 times in like 30 days so I could never tell what was day 3 or not. Then finally got a clear period about a month ago and went in for day 3 and they saw a premature follicle. Had me use my ovidrel to trigger that out of my system and then waited for my period again. Got that about 10 days ago and same - first my progesterone was elevated so they had me come back and it was fine but then my estrogen was elevated. So I went in today for blood and ultrasound and they saw another premature follicle. I go back Saturday morning for another blood and ultrasound and most likely I'll trigger it out again and THEN they are changing my protocol from microflare to estrogen primed antagonist. So estrogen patch, ganirelix, yadda yadda. So I need to order different meds anyway.
    Sounding to me based on what they've said and my googling that I might be Premature Ovarian Failure...anyone else?

    Soooooo this is all just really annoying and frustrating because I also feel like I can't plan anything since every time I think I know approx when I'll start stims and be tethered to my city, this happens. We've had like 4 false starts in the last 2 months and I keep having to cancel and postpone travel. And I just felt like bitching to people who would actually get it.

    But - third times a charm? At least DH and I agree that this really is the last one. Previously I always said "last one" and he said "well yeah but..." but this time he truly agrees that if it doesn't work it doesn't work and we'll move on and be ok. I should probably just shut up about that though.

    Who else is active right now? Thread was on fire a few months back and now it's so quiet!

  38. PurplePumps

    pomegranate / 3809 posts

    @SweetiePie: Oh I hear ya. We just never know what the future has in store and what we're willing to do. When I first started I told myself, sure, 3 cycles and that's it. I though if it doesn't work by then, what else would there be to do and try. And now I'm staring now the barrel of #8....

  39. SweetiePie

    honeydew / 7463 posts

    @PurplePumps: ugh I just cannot fathom 8 cycles. You're a rockstar. This is #3 but it feels like it's been so much more.

  40. endymion4

    apricot / 365 posts

    @SweetiePie: So hoping all the road bumps are over and you can get moving with this next cycle!! i understand that feeling of 'just one more time,' but it is so OKAY to change your mind even if you say that. we're a different person at each stage of this craziness regardless, and things change in our body, how we feel, what we want.

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