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A Year of New Beginnings and BFPS! - January 2015 POAS

  1. Berly

    cherry / 107 posts

    @mrs.gm: Congratulations!
    @NovBaby1112: Yay, great line! I hope this one sticks!

  2. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @hilsy85: HA! Easier in some ways probably. I'll tell you the story, hopefully it won't be too long, and you can see which you'd prefer. I'm weirdly happy though that someone thinks my way might be easier. At first I kept having all these really sad poor me thoughts about why is it so hard for us and so easy for so many others. I'm over that now, it is what it is and I wouldn't trade my life or especially my marriage for anything, but at the beginning it was hard.

    To everyone else, a disclaimer: This might be long and way TMI about my experience with at home AI, so feel free to skip it if you aren't interested!

    OK...So we started out thinking we were going to use a sperm bank and IUI at a doc's office or the same sperm bank. Um, yeah, at $2000/month for only 2 inseminations/month, we decided that we just couldn't do it that way. We would've run through our savings in no time and had nothing left for when baby actually came! No good. I started looking into other options, and came across a few websites: knowndonorregistry.com and prideangel.com. I did a lot of research, found that there are many others out there in our same situation, and got the feeling that while this was a very weird, awkward, and potentially dangerous thing to do (all things I'm completely uncomfortable with), it also seemed like these two sites were pretty legitimate, and that a lot of the donors seemed to be there for "the right reasons." We browsed quite a bit for a while, it can become quite a hobby, kind of like internet dating in a way. Eventually we were actually contacted by a donor who lives 5 hours from us, but we are in a super remote area and figured we'd have to travel. We exchanged emails a few times, he answered some awkward questions (WHY are you doing this?!?!) and I saw proof of various things (STD tests, family medical history, his PhD, etc). I decided to go for it, and so for three months (until this cycle I'm in now) I've been traveling the 5 hours each way once or twice per cycle to do two AIs each cycle.
    To do this, I charted a bit fanatically, spent too much money on lots of OPKs, and tried hard to be as accurate as possible with my timing. I would email him as soon as I got my first positive OPK and then head down there as soon as I could. Sometimes this meant leaving the next morning, as I work full time and couldn't always just call in sick or get coverage easily. I would quickly book a hotel room on hotwire, and then kiss my poor wife goodbye and head out the door. I met him in the hotel lobby, gave him the key and room number, and he went up to do his part. He would text me when he was done and I went up, got the key and he took off. It was a little scary the first time but he seemed like a really good guy and was very polite and respectful (he's done this before) so I didn't feel too weird about it.

    Basically the procedure went like this: He made his deposit in a sterile cup and left it on the counter. I went in, propped myself up with pillows under my butt, and sucked up everything I could from the cup into a syringe (I work in a medical office where there are plenty of sterile needle-less syringes to choose from) and then pointed the syringe as close to my cervix as possible and slowly depressed the plunger. They say to do it slowly rather than with pressure so you don't damage the sperm. Then I stayed like that for a few minutes, inserted a soft cup (they're meant as an alternative to a tampon but are also useful for this purpose) to keep the semen right up against the cervix, and went about my business. It was pretty easy once I got the hang of it. Once the cup was in nothing leaked out but if I didn't put the cup in I definitely had some leakage unless I was REALLY propped up. Down sides to this method were mostly stress related, I think. I was traveling, rushing, and missing work. Plus I was alone (it just didn't make sense for us both to miss so much work in addition to the costs of the travel and hotel rooms, plus finding someone to care for our little farm was too hard). I never felt comfortable in the hotel rooms, so I went out to dinner with friends from the area afterward each time, which was fun but made the whole experience seem surreal and like it couldn't possibly be working for baby-making. They suggest having an orgasm might help after the AI, as it is supposed to dip the cervix into the semen and encourage the swimmers to make their way up, but I never did this, it just wasn't going to happen in that situation. I did this or some variation of this for 3 cycles with no luck. I didn't even think it would work when I did it. I think my timing was late each time, because I wasn't even able to leave my house until after the positive LH surge, and at best it was at least another 6-8 hours before I even got the first insemination done, and often more like 18. I may have missed ovulation a number of those times.

    This last cycle was much better. We found a different donor who lives just under an hour away. He is super nice, very genuine and more open than the last donor. We aren't looking for someone to have a relationship with this baby, but it helps if you get the sense that they're really positive about doing this and are interested in the life the kid will lead. If the kid and donor meet at some point and we decide to become friends with the guy, that will be good too. Anyway, with this donor I felt comfortable going to his house and having him come to mine. My partner was able to be with me every time, as we were able to just do it after work. My timing was SO much better, because I wasn't waiting for the LH surge to even start the process. The donor was willing to do whatever we needed, and he followed my lead because he's never done it before. I said ideally we would start the day I got the first "high" reading on my clear blue fertility monitor and do an AI every other day until I got the positive OPK, and then every day until my temp shift confirmed O. So we met for the first time last Friday at his house. He went upstairs to do his thing, and gave us the guest bedroom downstairs. We just hung out, talked, laughed about how we never thought we'd ever do THIS in our lives, until he was done. He brought the cup down with the sample and I did the same process. This time, based on more research, I left the syringe in for about 10 minutes or as long as I could stand it. I also have been worried all along about whether I was inserting the cup correctly, and that if I wasn't maybe it was blocking the sperm from even getting up there (like a diaphragm). So I waited about 10 min before inserting it. Then we drove home, or ate dinner at our favorite restaurant. We also (TMI, but this whole post is TMI) were intimate every evening after the procedure. It was probably too long after to make a difference, but it made the whole thing feel like we were doing it together which makes me feel so much better about it all. We met again Sunday, but this time he came to our house. That was nice because I didn't have to use the cup at all, I just stayed in bed afterwards for the rest of the night. Monday I got a positive OPK, so he came to our house again that evening. Tuesday and Wednesday we went to his house, and then Thursday I got my temp shift so we called it quits for the month. Oh, and Wednesday I ran out of sterile cups, so he deposited right into the softcup, and I put it directly in, skipping the syringe all together (less wastage, less sperm damage, supposedly) It was tiring, but WAY less stressful than last time and a much more positive experience. And I feel really good about this month, so we will see!! I'm 2-3 DPO now (I had a long surge, so not sure exactly when I O'd) and trying to think good baby thoughts and not obsess over every feeling I have!

    Not sure if you've made it this far, and this is probably a post that belongs in an email or on its own page as its SO SO LONG but it actually felt good to write it all down, so I'm glad you asked. It's been interesting, certainly nothing I thought I'd ever do, but you do what you have to so I guess this is our life. I'm really hoping it works soon. I'm seeing a GP on Feb. 11, either to confirm pregnancy if this cycle works, or to get a general check and see if there's anything obvious wrong that would be keeping it from working. I'm also in touch with an acupuncturist who sounds wonderful, so I might start that next cycle if this one wasn't successful. Fingers crossed!!

  3. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @2farmmoms: wow! Thank you for sharing!! I so admire your willingness to check out alternative options--and how awesome that you found two great donors. This last cycle sounds amazing in terms of timing--fx this is it!! And I totally get what you mean about this time yiu and your wife feeling lkke you were in it together--makes a big difference in the whole "feel" of the baby making experience when you don't feel like you're doing it by yourself, whether in my shoes or yours. Thank you for being so open--really so interesting to find out about!

  4. mrs.gm

    grape / 84 posts

    @Berly: thank you!

    @2farmmoms: thank you for sharing that! It was really interesting to read your perspective. Hope you get your BFP this cycle!!

  5. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @hilsy85: I'm glad you find it interesting. I think it's so weird, but I'm getting more and more used to it. Sometimes I wonder what in the world I will tell a LO when that time comes, but I have a while to figure that one out. I do feel very lucky that we found two very good donors. There actually weren't any super weirdo ones that we came across, although I'm sure they're out there. The first question I asked each one was WHY? The ones who talked about how much they wanted kids of their own freaked me out, so I skipped those. These two both said how much they love kids and how they feel like if a couple wants kids and is responsible and adult they should be able to have them without spending a fortune just to get pregnant. I liked that answer better. The sperm banks and adoption agencies charge so much that those options aren't realistic for a lot of us, and I really wanted to keep our savings for when we HAVE a baby, not spend it all in just a couple attempts at getting pregnant.

    And yes, I didn't realize how important it was to me until this cycle, but feeling that we are in this together made a huge difference. We are both very practical not overly sentimental people, and it totally made more sense for her not to miss a ton of work, but I'm very happy we found a way to do it together.

    I hope you and your DH work things out and are successful soon. This is an exhausting, stressful journey. My mom and grandma both told me they thought I'd get pregnant on the first try since they both did each time (3 times each). Well...even though it was said with the best of intentions, I couldn't help but feel like a bit of a failure when it didn't happen. Ho hum. Maybe this is our month!!

  6. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @mrs.gm: Thanks! I feel like the post probably belongs somewhere else, but I don't have a blog so here it is! Occasionally I think of starting a blog, I like the anonymity of the internet as I'm not a very open person with my real life friends, but I do like sharing my story sometimes in a less personal way.

  7. mrs.gm

    grape / 84 posts

    @2farmmoms: I totally understand. I'm glad I got the chance to read it here! You could always post it in a new thread in case anyone else not on this one is interested. But only if you want!

  8. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @mrs.gm: Maybe I will do that.

  9. Honeygold89

    nectarine / 2527 posts

    @mrs.gm: congrats

  10. Honeygold89

    nectarine / 2527 posts

    @NovBaby1112: yay for a good line today congrats

  11. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @NovBaby1112: so happy for you and sending sticky rainbow baby thoughts you way.

  12. Finfan

    persimmon / 1436 posts

    @2farmmoms: Thanks so much for sharing your story! Good luck!

  13. NovBaby1112

    grapefruit / 4066 posts

    @bushelandapeck: if you go by my O date my due date is October 5th!

    @2farmmoms: wow thank you so much for sharing! That's really interesting and I'm glad you found a great situation...your timing sounds awesome this month- fingers crossed for you!!

    @hilsy85: I'm so sorry about your fight...my DH is totally the "it'll happen when it happens" kind of guy and I'm just like well it can't happen if we don't have sex on the right days! I just think we know a lot more about how this all works, and men can be a bit clueless, so it can be frustrating. It can be stressful for sure. I am hoping so badly this is your month and am keeping my fingers crossed for you

  14. artsyfartsy

    cantaloupe / 6692 posts

    CD14 and this is a positive OPK right? Both lines are kind of light, but the left test line is slightly darker than the reference line on the right. All OPKs I've taken so far have been obviously negative. Kind of in shock that it looks positive. Last cycle was so long and I didn't expect to ovulate this early.



  15. Berly

    cherry / 107 posts

    @2farmmoms: Thank you for sharing! I was honestly wondering how AI worked. I so hope this is your cycle!
    @Danizaur: Definitely positive!

  16. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    @Danizaur: definitely looks positive! Get busy!

    Finally 1dpo today! Now for the fun TWW...I think I will stop temping at 6dpo, all the temping in the last week does is drive me crazy and cause me to symptom spot.

    @NovBaby1112: thanks My dh kind of thought the same--like if we just have sex whenever it'll happen. Frustrating! We did come to a good understanding after our fight, so at least if this month doesn't work, we have a better plan going forward.

    @2farmmoms: I think there are so many different ways that families are made now a days, that by the time your LO is old enough to wonder, there will be a lot of resources out there to help you find the right words And I think a blog is a great idea, if for no other reason than to remember this time in your lives. I wish I had one--but I am just not motivated enough to actually create and regularly update one.

  17. mrs.gm

    grape / 84 posts

    @Honeygold89: thank you!

    Here's this morning's FRER.



  18. Finfan

    persimmon / 1436 posts

    @mrs.gm: Congrats!!!

  19. Finfan

    persimmon / 1436 posts

    Update: My temp had fallen below the coverline on DPO5 and dipped even further on DPO6 (Yesterday) but is now (DPO7) right on the cover line. No idea when to expect AF but FF is predicting Monday? I don't think they have enough cycles to make an accurate prediction for me since I did not get a period often while on BC because I had an IUD. I might start POAS on Monday if I can make it to a store that sells cheap tests. That will only be 9DPO.

  20. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @mrs.gm: Yay! Looking good! You guys are making me want to test and I'm only 3 dpo here!

  21. mrs.gm

    grape / 84 posts

    @Finfan: thank you!

    @2farmmoms: thanks! Don't do it! I decided to wait as long as possible this cycle so I tested for the first time on 15dpo. I didn't want to put myself through seeing a BFN if it was too early.

  22. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @Finfan: thanks!
    @Berly: thanks! AI is a little weird (especially when using a donor who isn't a close friend) but it's not too hard.
    @hilsy85: yeah I think you're right. There are already so many more resources than ever before.

  23. Mrs. Turtle

    blogger / pear / 1509 posts

    @mrs.gm: yeah that's been my plan every cycle so far. I've just waited for AF. But this month I have wondfos so it might be harder!

  24. Chaosmaven

    apricot / 315 posts

    POAS Dates

    BFP
    shortiecake; busylizzy111; CarrieLouWho; Ocean girl; elljay; Runnergirl; FairSeas; Charm54; hellobeeboston; MrsDoo; NovBaby1112: mrs.gm

    TBD: VegasBabyVegas; mrsjenbug: Bea

    1/20: mrs scrapbook
    1/22: MittenMama
    1/27: VGarcia
    1/28: renee0106
    1/29: berly
    1/30: My Only Sunshine; Finfan; lady baltimore
    1/31: jodyblair; cranberry

    Rollover to February: californiadreams; 2FarmMoms; JennyG; hilsy85; ballerinabee; Navy_Mommy; shellio; NorthStar; Willow; wheres_c; DesertDreams88; CObee; SugarplumsMom; snickers; chaosmaven; Imabee

    Cheerleaders: AprilFool; AMommyThang; NurseDMB; Honeygold89

  25. simplyfelicity

    cantaloupe / 6634 posts

    @mrs.gm: That's a beauty! Congratulations!

  26. simplyfelicity

    cantaloupe / 6634 posts

    @Danizaur: I totally thought this was a hpt! Definitely positive!

  27. shellio

    pear / 1614 posts

    @2farmmoms: Thanks for sharing your story! I am sending you baby dust!! I bet the reduced stress this cycle, with less travel and a more relaxed interaction with the donor, on top of having your wife closer, will really improve your chances!

  28. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    Hi ladies ! I used to post and was very active under a different username but took a break for a while and I'm now back with this username I have a few questions!

    We did the deed the day before and after ovulation and used the POM and then seven days past ovulation I had some pink tinge when I wiped. I wiped again and had a little bit of cervical mucus with a red streak.

    I thought I was starting my period a week early so I put in my diva cup the next morning when I took it out it was empty. Now I'm wondering if this could've been implantation bleeding?

    I don't normally spot before my period It usually comes full force on day one! If you do spot does it normally stop for several days before you get your period or just gradually get heavier? I haven't had any more bleeding.

    I'm also crampy in my lower abdomen and don't think I usually feel that way but I usually don't pay this close attention either!

    I didn't have implantation bleeding with my first pregnancy so I have no idea!

    Thoughts ?

  29. NovBaby1112

    grapefruit / 4066 posts

    @beloved: those sound like really good signs!! If you did implant, you'd probably be able to test in a few days!

  30. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    @NovBaby1112: that was on Thursday night and no bleeding since. I'm trying to tell myself to wait. I have one FRER . My period is still 5 days away (according to my phone but it has been so wonky since it came back after LO 1!) so I feel like it is still early to test? I'm 8 dpo

  31. NovBaby1112

    grapefruit / 4066 posts

    @beloved: I got a faint positive on 9dpo...but I tested with a cheapie first as I don't like to waste FRERs! You could always wait until maybe 11dpo?

  32. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    @NovBaby1112: I don't like to waste them either !!! I'll update if I test. We shall see!

  33. My Only Sunshine

    persimmon / 1129 posts

    @beloved: I'm 8dpo today too. I'm itching to test but I'm going to try to hold off until at least tomorrow. The waiting is going to kill me!

  34. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    @My Only Sunshine: I realllly want to ! I'm going to try to wait until tomorrow too!

  35. renee0106

    cherry / 197 posts

    @beloved @My Only Sunshine I'm 9dpo today today and I cracked at 7dpo and starting taking tests with my cheapies, lol. Obviously they were all BFN so I'm trying to hold out a few more days before I try again. I have said every month I'll wait till AF is late, but I always crack.

  36. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    @renee0106: it's so hard ! We aren't even trying but now that I saw some (maybe?) IB I am consumed !!!

  37. VegasBabyVegas

    pea / 11 posts

    Congrats to all the BFPs!! Looks like a good month for this crew.

    You can roll me over to next month, AF showed up today. Don't think I have ever been more happy to see her. Bought my thermometer and going to try temping this time around, so we will see how that goes.

    Congrats and to all you lucky mommas-to-be out there!

  38. My Only Sunshine

    persimmon / 1129 posts

    @renee0106: I cracked today and it's a BFN. But I'm not positive about my o date so I'm somewhere between 7 and 9 dpo. Holding off on testing again until Tues or Wed. Patience is not one of my strong suits

  39. beloved

    cherry / 206 posts

    @My Only Sunshine: same here. We aren't really trying but I feel disappointed we are on the fence about wanting another so a possible surprise pregnancy would kind of take the guess work out of it! Im out of tests so guess I will wait for AF! Hoping your next test is positive !

  40. BelugaBean

    pomegranate / 3516 posts

    @My Only Sunshine: I know! I think I'm 7dpo today and I'm trying to hold off testing again until Tuesday but it's so hard!

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