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Anyone Not Planning on Teaching LOs About Charity/Volunteering?

  1. matador84

    papaya / 10560 posts

    I used to teach history and a part of it was on civic virtue and what makes a person a good citizen. Part of the state standard I had to teach included things like serving on a jury, paying taxes, obeying laws, and volunteering are all parts of rights/responsibilities of citizenship and civic virtue.

  2. daniellemybelle

    cantaloupe / 6669 posts

    One of the bloggers here posted about an awesome tradition of donating birthday gifts to the children's hospital. This is something we plan to do as well every year. Honestly, I don't see how something like that could possibly conflict with the idea of being a productive member of society, no matter how you look at it. Like someone else said, teaching our daughter about empathy is very important to us. @cranberryapple: Perhaps something like what I described would be a good compromise for you? I can't imagine your husband arguing that children with cancer should pull themselves up from their bootstraps!

  3. Arden

    honeydew / 7589 posts

    @cranberryapple: I'm glad to see your reply! You seem open minded and hopefully this thread provided some good concepts to share with your husband. There are so many different ways to serve the community around us, I'm sure you'll be able to find one that fits your personalities and outlook.

  4. blackbird

    wonderful grape / 20453 posts

    Maybe you guys just need to find something you feel strongly about? It's not always volunteering for the poor and underprivileged or planting trees, but like Danielle said, children's cancer organizations, animal societies, mental health groups, veterans orgs, art related stuff for students, etc. The list goes on and on.

  5. wonderstruck

    pomegranate / 3791 posts

    I think it's important for my kids to realize that not everyone is as lucky as them, and to help each other out - goes pretty much hand-in-hand with the kindness and empathy that I want to instill in him. I don't plan on going too nuts with it when he's little, but things like picking out some toys he doesn't play with anymore and explaining how they can help other kids is something I definitely plan on doing.

    My parents have sponsored a child (now a young man) in Kenya since I was 7 or 8, and growing up it was quite a revelation for me to see how different his life was - although hypothetically I knew about 3rd world countries, it was much more real to me when we were receiving letters from him hoping to get rain so they would have food to eat, raving about the new cooking supplies the money we sent paid for, etc.

  6. ElbieKay

    pomegranate / 3231 posts

    I think that it's important to be grateful for what you have, but I think there are various ways to act on that. I agree with @Looch's sentiment about some volunteer opportunities being a waste of time. A lot of charities have a high overhead cost too. And there are ways to be thoughtful about your lifestyle that can make an impact.

    During college I volunteered to tutor at a disadvantaged elementary school but I saw different kids every week and did not feel like I had much impact on any one kid. During my late 20s I was on the board of a small opera company and honestly it was really a way for the director to earn a(n admittedly meager) salary though it did provide some young singers with the opportunity to perform and bolster their resumes. I'm not sure if those versions of volunteering had any more or less impact on society than when I write checks to support friends' fundraising causes or when I simply spent a lot of time when I was unemployed hanging out with my best friend to help her with her new baby. And I did not own a car from ages 22-34 which was a lifestyle choice that had a relatively positive impact on the environment.

    I don't think you have to spend Thanksgiving at a soup kitchen or make your kid donate his birthday presents in order to be a thoughtful and contributing member of society.

  7. Mamaof2

    squash / 13208 posts

    In this day and age volunteer work is very important to colleges and scholarships!

    My DSS is applying right now and has been rejected for several scholarships due to zero volunteer experience. He was also told by the Army ROTC interviewer that his lack of volunteer work really pushed his application to the bottom of the pile.

    Just something to think about - as I am sure 18 yrs from now it will still be just as important!

  8. Boheme

    papaya / 10473 posts

    @Mamaof2: Excellent point!

  9. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    I agree that "volunteering" can be in many forms. I don't think I will be taking my daughter out to a Habitat for Humanity build or anything like that but I will teach her how to be a good citizen.

    Little things like the girl scout, "Leave it better then how you found it" by picking up an extra piece of trash out of the park. Or volunteering to make cookies for a sick friend. Or as others have suggested donating gifts or goods.

  10. MrsH

    honeydew / 7667 posts

    @cranberryapple: We will instill volunteering becuase I do think it is important for kids in middle school and high school to volunteer. It teaches a lot of values and promotes social growth of the child. I do agree with your DH though - right now the taxes I pay far outweigh any benefit society would obtain from me volunteering my time.

  11. Freckles

    honeydew / 7444 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: Do you think maybe it's because Sweden has great social programs (funded through taxes) that people don't feel the need to do more? I would think the situation over there vs. US is pretty different.

    @ElbieKay: I agree with you. I'm sure all of those things could be considered contributions to society.

    This is not to say that all people feel this way, but people have to admit that volunteering makes you feel good and it's a way to pat yourself on the back for helping out those in need. Instilling altruism in my LO would be more important to me.

  12. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    I've calmed down a lot and I think I am ready to participate civilly in this thread.

    I hate that volunteering has become something where people feel they need to put a tick in the box. If it makes you feel good and it is a good use of your time, that's a win. If you just go because you feel you have to and you're in a sour mood, it's not helping anyone.

  13. sunny

    coconut / 8430 posts

    I enjoyed volunteering as a teen. I wasn't able to commit to the hours of a part time job, but volunteering 1-2 hrs on a weekly basis was doable. I continued even through the first year of my first real job. I did it until I didn't love doing it anymore. At this point in my life I just don't have the extra hours so we give through money rather than time. However I would like to demonstrate to my kids that giving is more than writing a check once a year.

    Above all I just want my kids to be compassionate, caring individuals. I hope that giving is part of that.

  14. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @Freckles: TBH I have no idea. Just recently I had a convo with an American who lived in the UK for a couple of years. Her experience was so different from my friends' who has been there for 8 years. One woman was talking about lots of government assistance including paying fam members to care for their disabled kin already on assisstance and the other works at consulting group non-profit and regularly interacts with the Queen's daughter.

  15. Arden

    honeydew / 7589 posts

    @looch: I agree. People volunteering simply for the sake of checking the box will probably result in both them and the charity getting nothing out of the experience. I think people need to find something they can be passionate about.

    I guess my problem is with the attitude of indifference that I see sometimes, the sort of "it's not my responsibility to do anything" outlook. If someone wants to make the world a better place and is still searching for their own way to do that, that's great! At least they are working towards finding their niche, their part of the solution.

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