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  1. Hypatia

    kiwi / 500 posts

    I’ve been killing myself on the elliptical for an hour every morning. Doing keto and 16:8 fasting. I haven’t lost a single pound this week. In fact, I was actually up a pound this morning. I know there’s natural variation with water retention and so on, but it’s so frustrating not to see even a little progress. Trying to stay positive and show up to the gym everyday anyway. 🤷‍♀️

  2. Mommy Finger

    pomegranate / 3272 posts

    Does anyone take a multi vitamin while doing IF? I can't find good info on whether taking one breaks my fast. I got in the habit of taking them before bed as I keep them on my night stand so I can remember. Has anyone seen any good info?

  3. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @Mommy Finger: in this chart from Gin Stephens it’s listed as a maybe ... I think the best indicator would be, do you chew it and is there sweetness added? Then maybe it does break it. For a swallowed pill (with water) I would say go ahead. Just my 2c.

  4. Mommy Finger

    pomegranate / 3272 posts

    @bhbee: Extremely helpful. They are ones you just swallow and I'll double check but I don't think there's any sweetener so hopefully I'll be ok!

  5. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    Alright, still struggling to get back on the strict fast bandwagon here. Was going to do today but didn’t plan well and then starving an hour in (and part of that is just getting back into it, I know!). Think I can salvage 14 at least. Gave up the last week because 4/5 of us had the flu, the 2 littles were super sick and ds (who already had asthma) got pneumonia. So lots of survival and still a kid birthday and two parties to go this weekend. I’m hoping I can get serious after that ... I’ve lost some of that post-weaning gain I had which is good but I just feel more bloated and such regardless of the number.

    How is everyone else doing?

  6. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @bhbee: You've had so much going on! Definitely give yourself some grace as you ease back into things. And, yeah, it will suck while you do (hunger cues,) but you know it will go away quickly.) Ee just had sickness move through our house, and I did my best but didn't sweat it. There's a season for everything.

  7. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @gotkimchi: Hey, any updates?

  8. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    My dad has been trying all kinds of stuff to lose weight: Keto, South Beach, Nutrisystem, etc and he told me he lost some weight on Nutrisystem and (surprise, surprise) gained some back because he went off for a few days. I was like "WILL YOU TRY INTERMITTENT FASTING ALREADY?!?!"
    Haha. I'm honestly so grateful for IF. In over three months, I have felt restricted in some way only a couple of times and have eaten outside of my window only a couple of times, but have lost nearly 15 lbs. If I were on ANY other diet, I would have already fallen off the bandwagon, gotten back on, and be slipping off again. I really do feel like it could be a permanent change.

  9. KNS

    cherry / 136 posts

    @crazydoglady: Yay - so glad that you are seeing that success and that you aren't feeling restricted. I have had the same experience and it is such a freeing feeling. We're still going strong and I don't see any reason to change anything at this point.

  10. Bluemasonjar

    clementine / 920 posts

    @crazydoglady: 15 lbs is great! I agree that IF feels like something that I can do long term. I was only eating breakfast a few days a week anyway so cutting it out has not been too hard. I do sometimes crave something sweet after dinner so I've taken to occasionally grabbing a piece of candy before my window closes to fight off that urge.

    DH has lost 5 lbs already in just a few weeks and I am down 6 lbs so far. I'm doing IF in addition to WW so I'm also eating healthier.

  11. LadyDi

    persimmon / 1380 posts

    Hi all! I've been lurking around this thread for awhile and I am thinking about dipping my toe into the IF water. I understand the basic idea behind it, but does anyone have any resources online that I could read? Not looking for a whole book, just an article or two. I am not looking to lose weight right now. I am weaning off of breastfeeding and I lost a lot of weight from that so I really just want to maintain where I am now and also eliminate the sugar cravings I get right before bed. I have been pregnant or breastfeeding for two years straight and I spent almost every evening of those two years eating something sweet at night and now I am completely addicted.

    Is there flexibility with the fasting times? Last night I fasted for 14 hours and it wasn't bad, but I do get hunger headaches and I am not sure if I could do 16 hours. Also, does IF allow for cheat days? I believe in treating myself and I don't want to give up wine before bed on the weekends.

    Thanks ladies! I love the little support group that's formed here.

  12. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @LadyDi: welcome to the group! I read a couple blog posts on the Gin Stephens website that I found helpful (like understanding clean fasting). She has a book too but I never read it.
    Yes it can be flexible, especially if you aren’t trying to lose weight. My understanding is that anything over 12 hours clean fasting has benefits, you see more as you go higher, 16 is mostly arbitrary, just a spot that works for many. So 14 will definitely work (many of us started there even if we did more later) and you can change it if you want at any time. You can make weekends more flexible - either a shorter fast or changing the timing of the fast - the only drawback is, your hunger/cravings might not be quite as well controlled (consistency really helps there). I think overall it is a super flexible thing and you can adjust as you go!

  13. LadyDi

    persimmon / 1380 posts

    @bhbee: great info, thank you! Day 2 and I already failed lol. A baby up off and on all night plus a 4 yo who threw up in his bed at 4am means that I need creamer in my coffee this morning.

  14. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @LadyDi: one of my favorite parts of IF is that if you “mess up” it’s super easy to just get back on it! No need to be perfect! The first week is hardest for sure and then it gets more natural.

  15. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @LadyDi: It's been said here before, but sometimes allowing yourself to have half and half etc in your coffee is a good way to start IF. If I had known that I would "have" to skip dairy in my coffee while fasting, I'm not sure I would have ever done IF to be honest! About a month in, my weight loss started stalling, so I dropped the half and half (I did NOT want to,) but I wanted to see if not having a truly clean fast had an affect. It most certainly did! I very quickly lost 10 lbs after that.
    So, long-winded way to say that it's ok to make changes as you go along and tweak things as they come up.

  16. LadyDi

    persimmon / 1380 posts

    @crazydoglady: Crazy how a little half and half makes such a difference!

  17. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @bhbee: How are things going? I'm up 2 lbs and am really hoping it's just AF. 😅

  18. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: ugh it’s so hard to see it go up even when you know it’s temporary!

    I’m feeling ok about things. I got back to a better schedule after the end of birthday parties last weekend and fasted 16+ on 4/5 weekdays. The best thing is after doing that I’m feeling just less/not hungry again outside the window. I’m still at basically the same weight as the start of December when I knew I would take a hiatus on being strict but hoping to see some movement this month. I reallllllly want to lose 10lb before we likely do family pics in April so I need to stay focused!

  19. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @bhbee: I think maintaining over the holidays and all the birthdays is HUGE! I totally understand wanting to lose weight before pictures...which is one of the reasons I am putting them off , but one thing I've learned with IF is that weight loss is not linear at all. It's crazy how I can be at one weight for weeks and then drop 5 lbs.
    I've actually been trying to push back my window a bit more to eat from 3:00ish-6:30ish. I just think my body needs a little "jump start" to break past this current plateau.

  20. Bluemasonjar

    clementine / 920 posts

    Tried to skip the coffee this week since I am still not acclimated to drinking it black and wanted to try a clean fast to see the results. Just broke down and poured a cup... DS #2 was home sick yesterday and big brother had an epic temper tantrum and I am just exhausted.

    DH is down 8 lbs so far so I am motivated to catch up to him.

  21. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: so you’re doing 20+ hours? How’s it going? I’m with you on needing a jump start - I’m going to try to do as many 18s as I can on weekdays but we’ll see. Like @Bluemasonjar: I’ve been super exhausted lately which doesn’t help!

  22. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @bhbee: It's going ok! I havent seen much movement in the scale just yet. The only reason it works is because I have my lunch from 11:15-11:55 and don't get an opportunity to eat again until 2:25 (when school is over.) I've just been waiting until I get home at 3ish because staying after work to eat at my desk feels weird haha.

  23. Ms. RV

    pear / 1930 posts

    Anyone have any advice on how to cut back on sugar/carb cravings? I get strong ones when I get ready in the morning but usually a cup of black decaf iced coffee fixes that. Then at lunch I always seem to want something sweet.

  24. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @Ms. RV: honestly the best thing for me is consistency - force myself to focus on protein and fiber for a few days and the cravings get better. When I cave (which has happened a lot lately!) then they show up every day and it’s a cycle.

    I’m interested if anyone else has a great idea for this!

  25. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @Ms. RV: I definitely agree with @bhbee: . I feel like a lot of it is habit. I also want to make sure that I am not restricting myself, so I wouldn't be opposed to having a square of dark chocolate after lunch or know that I will allow myself to have dessert later in the evening.

  26. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @Hypatia: Any updates?

  27. Hypatia

    kiwi / 500 posts

    @crazydoglady: My daughter had two birthday parties (one with family, one with friends) last week, so I’m sure all the cheating I did over that three day period didn’t help! But the good news is that I’m down a total of 8 lbs from my starting weight. It’s been up and down—I lost 8 lbs very quickly over the first two weeks or so of keto, then just as quickly gained it back once I began exercising...then I cheated...but I’ve been spending an average of six hours per week on the elliptical and doing an hour of relaxed walking on my rest day. So you can imagine how frustrating it can be to supposedly burn 850 calories, eat only 1200 calories, and not lose very much weight.

    I’ve read that part of my problem may have been water retention. If you start exercising a lot, and you don’t eat many carbs, your liver still has to produce glycogen to fuel your muscles (at least, that’s what my doctor said), and you retain water to do that. And then I’m also taking around 1500 mg of NSAIDs to fight my inflammation, which also causes water retention. I don’t think much of the weight is muscle, since I’ve only been working out for a month and I think it takes longer than that to build significant muscle?

    I think the lesson learned is that even with careful calorie restriction, exercise is not the way to lose weight. It’s GREAT for other things, like mental and cardiovascular health, but you can’t really exercise your way into losing weight. And that’s okay.

    I just finished reading a book called Spark, about the science of exercise’s effects on the brain, and it’s given me a renewed motivation to keep exercising even if it slows my weight loss. Did you know that they’ve done studies that show that exercise is more effective than anti-depressants at treating depression, for example? It’s really fascinating.

    I need to lose another 23 lbs to reach my goal weight by early August. We’re going to be doing one of the most amazing hikes in the world, and I don’t want to give up halfway through because I’m too out of shape. Plus, I’m convinced that dropping the weight and strengthening my core, my back and hip problems will be improved. I’ll continue doing keto and 16:8 in the hopes that I can meet my goal in time!

    P.S. We just bought one of those scales that measures your body fat percentage, etc. and it was a relief to see that by very measure except weight, I am pretty healthy. I’d like to get a more sophisticated scan and compare the two to se ehow accurate it is.

  28. Ajsmommy

    pomegranate / 3355 posts

    @Hypatia: great update! we just got a scale that measures more things too.. not quite as many things as yours does though. but I like it bc it's synced with my phone so it's more visible

  29. Ajsmommy

    pomegranate / 3355 posts

    I'm sorry I didn't read all the way back to the beginning but does anyone use an app to help track your fasting?

    I found it was getting annoying to keep thinking about when i had stopped eating and when i was going to eat again so this weekend i downloaded an app and it really helped me (for the two days I've used it ha) but it helps me visualize better bc duh i can see how long I've fast and how much longer until my window opens or closes...

    anyway i was just curious if anyone else used an app?

    I really need to add in some activity and I think i'd start to see some real change.. but it's so hard for me to find the time.

  30. Twolittlemen

    cherry / 109 posts

    @Ajsmommy: I use Zero and find it very helpful. Because like you my window tends to end up sliding a bit.

    ETA: I also like it because I get a alert on my (apple) watch when my window opens. so I don't need to be obsessivley checking the time when I start to get hungry.

  31. Ajsmommy

    pomegranate / 3355 posts

    @Twolittlemen: That is the one I got this weekend. I am really liking it so far! less thinking is always a GOOD thing for me HA!

  32. Twolittlemen

    cherry / 109 posts

    @Ajsmommy: me too!

    I also like watching the ring close and keeping track of the minutes and seconds make it easier to extend my fast if I'm already getting close to another hour. plus I like that it keeps the history.

    I've only been using it for 2 weeks, (been serious clean fasting for 6) but I'm impressed.

  33. agold

    grapefruit / 4045 posts

    @Hypatia: It seems like you are doing amazing! And what an amazing goal to have and good reasons to lose some weight. I dropped 5 pounds pretty quick. I was so happy because it helped me feel better about a dress I wanted to wear to an event this past weekend. But I'm having knee problems since my second pregnancy and I'm really hoping that if I can lose 10-13 more pounds, that would really help me. OMG, if I could lose 18 pounds, that would be a dream. But I'm not really putting much effort, so I need to reevaluate what I am willing to do.The elliptical is great and six hours is really good if you are a busy working sleep-deprive mama like I am.

    @Twolittlemen: Thanks for the app reccomendation! I love apps!

  34. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @Hypatia: That's so interesting! As a person who deals with SAD, I need to up my exercise efforts.

    Is it possible you weren't getting enough calories?

  35. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @Ajsmommy: @Twolittlemen: Thanks for the recommendation! I just downloaded it!

  36. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    @bhbee: I decided to go back to 16:8...I realized it was coming from a place of restriction as opposed to a long-term thing. I feel like I keep gaining and losing the same 2 lbs, but I was (somewhat) trending downwards, so I just need to keep on keeping on.

  37. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: I understand ... I did 3 18s last week and was really hoping to see results but nothing yet! I’ve been stuck st the same point since early December ... which is better than where I started for sure, but it’s frustrating that the weeks I really didn’t try hard at all and the week of doing a lot of fasting got the same result! I agree just need to keep a longer term focus. Thank goodness IF is relatively easy to do each day.

  38. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: I’ve also been wondering about two things - how much weaning is affecting things and whether dairy is making a difference. I weaned around Jan 1, and slowly added back dairy after being dairy free for over 6 months for BF (the whole time I was doing IF). The weaning thing just means I need to eat less I’m sure - the dairy may be interesting to try again. I did make different choices because of it and maybe that helped somehow.

  39. crazydoglady

    nectarine / 2431 posts

    How is everyone doing? I'm still in the same gaining and losing two pounds. Admittedly, I have been less strict about timing.

  40. bhbee

    cantaloupe / 6085 posts

    @crazydoglady: same - stuck in place but not trying as hard as I was before the holidays. Hoping something can kick start me!

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